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« Reply #360 on: May 24, 2012, 08:39:17 PM »
No city had a say, the casinos were entirely brought about by privately funded state constitutional amendment to legalize casino gambling in four cities with the specific sites named in the amendment. Columbus had to pass another state-wide constitutional amendment to move it about five miles.

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« Reply #361 on: June 17, 2012, 01:34:04 AM »
I was in Toledo just this past week. I could definitely pick up on a different energy in and around Downtown than what I observed the last time I was there about a year ago. The Mud Hens were getting ready to play at Fifth Third Field and plenty of people were walking towards the stadium. There appeared to be more restaurants around the stadium than before, and from what I could tell they looked fairly busy, even for a weekday. It also appears that some additional housing/apartments/lofts have become available. What before seemed like a city downtown ready to roll up the sidewalks at 5 pm now looks like a city downtown on the verge of a revival, at least in some parts.

Elsewhere, particularly around Adams Street, I noticed a few more businesses open than during my last trip. Several attractive yet vacant/underused buildings in that area hold quite a bit of potential for redevelopment. It's too bad the University of Toledo exists on the city's outskirts, as the presence of a major university in or near downtown would serve as a catalyst for further investment and redevelopment, much as the University of Akron, Youngstown State and Cleveland State have done for their respective cities. Even locating branch of UT or Bowling Green downtown could make a meaningful difference.

I'm admittedly not a huge fan of casinos as a form of economic development, but I can't help but wonder what effect Toledo's casino might have had on its downtown, had it been located there instead of further away, given what's currently happening in Cleveland. Granted though, Cleveland already has a lot to see and do around its downtown, so a casino there seems like icing on an already quite tasty cake.

Toledo definitely looks like it has some promising projects in the works and potential for the expansion of existing ones, but I also can't help but feel like it is still missing some key pieces and a more detailed economic development strategy that will carry it forward long-term. Unless I have overlooked something?


Adams Street seems to be the "hip" burgeoning entertainment district. Theres still plenty of buildings undeveloped and run down, but the vibe is suitable for the types of people hanging out down there. Kinda the prime place to go out for LGBT, artsy people, hipsters, etc. Close proximity to the Old West End (where a lot of these people live) bolsters the neighborhood.


I agree that there are certain key pieces missing from the success & progress puzzle of Toledo, and that we definitely need more detailed plans, ideas, and strategies. At least were definitely seeing progress in the right direction. The balls rolling. We just had a new pub called Ol' Cock n Bull Tavern open up by the stadium, and a new upscale restaurant called Registry Bistro, open across from the arena....as well as a new coffeeshop called Bleak House Coffee open in the Spitzer Bldg. So the balls rolling, slowly, but at least theres some bit of momentum.
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« Reply #362 on: August 30, 2012, 11:14:01 PM »
^I'm sad to hear about Adams becoming a hipster hangout, though I guess it was bound to happen given the location. Toledo's greatest point of pride was there weren't any hipsters (Toledo didn't take kindly to those types, and they always ended up moving away). "Welcome to Toledo: No Hipsters for 50 Miles!" A few years ago, all the potential hipsters went to Village Idiot in Maumee, which did a good job keeping them out of the city. Toledo always had an alternative crowd, but it never devolved into hipsterdom like you'd find in most cities. I guess that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that hipsters aren't just a fad. They're another peg down the cultural ladder of America. If it can happen in Toledo, it can happen anywhere. I still think whatever "scene" develops in Toledo is going to be extremely limited. Toledo culture just isn't aligned with hipsters (Toledo is way too masculine and hard-headed). It will never have a hipster scene like Chicago, Columbus, or from what I'm hearing, Cincinnati. It will be contained to a couple of bars, you can be sure of that. In an ideal world, there would be no hipsters, but in a city the size of Toledo, I guess there are bound to be a few bad apples in the bunch.
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« Reply #363 on: August 31, 2012, 11:24:10 AM »
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« Reply #364 on: September 05, 2012, 12:51:20 PM »
Hotel, retail proposed for 13-acre former theater site in Toledo

The 13-acre site of a former theater in Toledo that has been closed since 2005 is in line for a $25 million redevelopment plan that could include a new hotel with about 114 rooms, the Toledo Blade reports.

Key Hotel and Property Management Inc. bought the 3500 Secor Road property from Dedham, Mass.-based National Amusements Inc., the former theater operator, for $2.5 million, the newspaper reports.

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« Reply #365 on: September 17, 2012, 12:43:00 AM »
^I'm sad to hear about Adams becoming a hipster hangout, though I guess it was bound to happen given the location. Toledo's greatest point of pride was there weren't any hipsters (Toledo didn't take kindly to those types, and they always ended up moving away). "Welcome to Toledo: No Hipsters for 50 Miles!" A few years ago, all the potential hipsters went to Village Idiot in Maumee, which did a good job keeping them out of the city. Toledo always had an alternative crowd, but it never devolved into hipsterdom like you'd find in most cities. I guess that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that hipsters aren't just a fad. They're another peg down the cultural ladder of America. If it can happen in Toledo, it can happen anywhere. I still think whatever "scene" develops in Toledo is going to be extremely limited. Toledo culture just isn't aligned with hipsters (Toledo is way too masculine and hard-headed). It will never have a hipster scene like Chicago, Columbus, or from what I'm hearing, Cincinnati. It will be contained to a couple of bars, you can be sure of that. In an ideal world, there would be no
 hipsters, but in a city the size of Toledo, I guess there are bound to be a few bad apples in the bunch.


Haha. Ottawa Tavern is probably the most hipster-ish bar, probably like 90% hipster. Then the Attic is probably like 50% hipster. Then Wesleys is probably like anywhere from 10% to 80% hipster depending on the night. Manhattans is probably like 5% hipster, and the rest are cool older people into blues and jazx music.

That's my Adams Street Guide to Hipsterdom.

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« Reply #366 on: December 05, 2012, 09:02:22 AM »
The Blade had a recent piece about downtown Toledo, looking at the state of downtown living.  It focused on the existing downtown living options and the downtown businesses that exist, and don't exist, to serve the needs of those residents. 

Below is the link to that article.  Also below is a map that shows the downtown area being looked at.  A much larger version of this map is at the article link: 

Toledo Blade: More people choosing to call downtown Toledo their home - Residents seek nearby businesses that meet basic needs

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« Reply #367 on: December 05, 2012, 09:07:26 AM »
Townhouse rentals planned for former downtown Toledo eatery
BY TYREL LINKHORN, BLADE BUSINESS WRITER
Published: 12/1/2012


A Toledo-area developer has plans to turn the former EasyStreet Cafe into five townhouse-style rentals, adding a new option to a popular and growing downtown housing market.  Lorenzen Realty completed purchase of the 19th-century building at 822 Washington Street about two weeks ago.

The historic building, built in 1890, had been a bar and restaurant for years, and formerly featured five apartments on the upper level.  But it recently had been sitting vacant.

Building co-owner Justin Lorenzen said the company had its eye on the property for some time and felt it would make a good spot for townhouses.  The plan calls for five 2,000-square-foot townhouses that include a full basement and two indoor parking spots.

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« Reply #368 on: December 08, 2012, 05:04:55 PM »
That article in The Blade that talks about what downtowns residents need hits the nail on the head. A grocery store of some sort, and also a smaller pharmacy store would help out a lot. Part of the appeal of choosing to live downtown, is being able to live an urban lifestyle, so to speak, and in a central business district, I think people expect walkability and amenities to be a part of their lifestyle. Theres a sufficient amount of dining, drinking, and entertainment venues downtown to secure peoples interest, on that end of the equation, but the basic necessities of every day living are missing. I like the idea of the Andersons or Churchills investing in downtown. People throw around names like Trader Joes and Whole Foods, and those places obviously are not bad, but they are big national chains that overlook mid-size, rust belt, downtown Toledo so im not sure we stand a chance with them, at least not in the near future. The Andersons family lives in Toledo, and it would be a greater possibilty that they might see the opportunity downtown. Im not counting on it, but perhaps the city and the Andersons could work together to make a store happen. A store like the Andersons Market thats out in Sylvania would be great downtown.

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« Reply #369 on: December 19, 2012, 09:00:13 AM »
Maumee Valley breaks ground on first residence hall
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Published: 12/5/2012


Maumee Valley Country Day School in South Toledo broke ground today on a new on-campus residence hall that will be used to board both international and regional high school students.  The $1.5 million facility will provide living quarters for 28 students in the ninth through 12th grades.



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« Reply #370 on: December 19, 2012, 09:06:59 AM »
NeighborWorks Toledo Region plans to construct 40 more prefabricated homes near downtown
BY FEDERICO MARTINEZ, BLADE STAFF WRITER
Published: 12/8/2012


From neighborhood blight to new, energy-efficient homes in two months.  That's the goal of NeighborWorks Toledo Region, which launched construction Friday of two new houses on the 300 block of Toledo's Chapin Street.

Construction of the prefabricated houses is expected to be completed by February, said Bill Farnsel, executive director of the nonprofit investment group.  The homes will be sold to low-to-moderate income residents through the city's federally funded Neighborhood Stabilization Program.

The organization plans to start construction of 40 similar houses in the Mercy St. Vincent Medical Center area near downtown in February, said Mr. Farnsel.  All of those homes will be completed by Dec. 31, 2013.

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« Reply #371 on: December 19, 2012, 09:16:40 AM »
51 miles of road repaving, new fire station part of Toledo capital budget
BY IGNAZIO MESSINA, BLADE STAFF WRITER
Published: 12/8/2012


Toledo Mayor Mike Bell's proposed capital improvements budget released on Friday sets aside funding for paving 51 miles of road lanes along with money to build a fire station and renovate another. ... More than $44 million, which includes state and federal matching grants, was proposed for roads.  Major projects in the plan include Secor Road between Central Avenue and Monroe Street as well as part of Collingwood Boulevard in the Old West End. 

The Bell administration is also committing $1.7 million to renovate Fire Station 3, the city’s oldest fire house.  The city in September shuttered the 85-year-old building at 701 Bush Street because of cracks in the floor of the fire engine bay and plans to repair the main station house and add additional space for fire apparatus.

The mayor has also agreed to allocate $2.7 million for a new fire station, which will become Fire Station 12 — the name of a former firehouse at Suder Avenue and Manhattan Boulevard that was closed in 1980.  It is to be built on the site of basketball courts in Blair Park, at Adrian and Chase streets.

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« Reply #372 on: July 12, 2013, 12:34:40 PM »
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Old West End public housing to get $4M-$5M
BY KATE GIAMMARISE, BLADE STAFF WRITER
Published: 1/11/2013


A public housing complex for seniors in the Old West End will get $4 million to $5 million in upgrades as part of a national program that officials say aims to preserve affordable housing by attracting private investment.  The 136-unit Parqwood Apartments complex, a building for low-income seniors at 2125 Parkwood Ave., will get modernized units and common areas, as well as energy-efficiency upgrades.  Parqwood was built in the 1940s.
 
The Lucas Metropolitan Housing Authority is one of only two housing authorities in Ohio to be included in a new U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development program known as Rental Assistance Demonstration.  The federal program allows authorities to raise funds for needed public housing repairs by essentially reclassifying public housing as privately owned Section 8 housing, permitting private investors to put up funds for redevelopment.

MORE: http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2013/01/11/Old-West-End-public-housing-to-get-4M-5M.html
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« Reply #373 on: July 12, 2013, 12:35:09 PM »
First phase of $46M Collingwood Green Senior Community dedicated
BY SAM GANS, BLADE STAFF WRITER
Published: 6/5/2013


The ribbon-cutting unveiled the first phase of what some officials called a “new face” of affordable housing in northwest Ohio. ... The 65-unit building, which cost $12.7 million, was completed Friday. It is on Division Street and Belmont Avenue in central Toledo, and replaces former LMHA complexes Brand Whitlock and Albertus Brown.

The site’s proximity to downtown and I-75 made replacing the previous buildings a top priority for LMHA, said Ivory Mathews, deputy executive director. ... The building is the first phase of a $46 million project which will include 272 housing units for both low and middle-income families, a community building, and a seven-acre park.

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« Reply #374 on: September 17, 2014, 04:29:01 PM »
This is an awesome building (and I think the last historic one left on its block). The area also still has its original brick streets. Anything to get this saved is a good thing in my book, and it's within walking distance of Downtown and Old West End. Toledo desperately needs a full grocery store in its urban core. While Downtown or Warehouse District make the most sense to me (due to higher population), an Uptown location can capitalize on multiple neighborhoods all within walking distance.

Toledo mulls giving ProMedica building
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Toledo officials are considering donating a vacant, city-owned building in the UpTown neighborhood to ProMedica to convert it into a grocery store.

City records show the company wants to acquire the building at 311 18th St.

“It has been estimated that the redevelopment of the building would easily exceed $1 million,” according to legislation Toledo City Council will review Tuesday in advance of a vote to donate the property.

Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2014/09/15/Toledo-mulls-giving-ProMedica-building.html#dh9DTMyO4KS07Gpr.99
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« Reply #375 on: November 18, 2014, 02:40:42 PM »
Lucas Co. Commissioners to buy former Seagate Hotel

The Lucas County Commissioners today approved the purchase of the former Seagate Hotel property in downtown Toledo.

The commissioners announced at an afternoon news conference that they have authorized the Lucas County Improvement Corp. to buy the property for $1.38 million.

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« Reply #376 on: May 13, 2015, 09:22:37 PM »
^Something sounds shady about this deal. I've heard the city is planning to tear it down for what sounds like a big sum of money (demolition contractor friend getting hooked up?). The hotel was dated, but structurally sound. It could easily be brought up to modern standards and Downtown Toledo could use a Hilton or Marriott property.

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« Reply #377 on: December 10, 2015, 04:10:48 PM »
Published: Monday, 11/23/2015 - Updated: 2 weeks ago
Middle Grounds gets the spotlight as district revitalization gains steam
Plans on track for struggling area near train station, new metropark
BY MARK REITER
BLADE STAFF WRITER

Maurice “Moe” Habbouche has seen it all at the Middle Grounds District.

The owner of the Green Lantern restaurant on Broadway, Mr. Habbouche remembers the 1960s when the street was lined with shops and businesses, and Central Union Terminal was busy with passenger trains arriving and leaving.

“I’ve seen the good times. I have been here for the bad times,” Mr. Habbouche said. “In the last 10 years, I’ve seen a lot of changes.”

A bustling railway hub in its heyday, the Middle Grounds District is joining downtown and the Warehouse District as an area that gets its own formal master plan. Approved unanimously by the Toledo Plan Commission earlier this month, the plan aims to build on momentum occurring in the district with construction of the Middlegrounds Metropark and future relocation of the Greyhound bus station from downtown to the train station, now called Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Plaza.

The revitalization of old buildings and reinvestment in the adjacent Toledo Warehouse District also is an optimistic sign for the struggling neighborhood, planners say.

Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2015/11/23/District-revitalization-gains-steam.html#Thob3qECSSwtzUFt.99
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« Reply #378 on: January 28, 2016, 09:07:50 PM »
Published: Wednesday, 12/23/2015 - Updated: 1 month ago
Potbelly to open downtown store
Franchisee intrigued by ProMedica project
BY JON CHAVEZ   
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The impending move to downtown Toledo by ProMedica has attracted another business to follow the health care provider.

Potbelly Sandwich Shop, a Chicago restaurant chain with one franchise store on Talmadge Road near Sylvania Avenue, has signed a lease to occupy the former Roulet Co. jewelry store at 413 Madison Ave., next to the PNC Bank Building.

Franchisee Jeff Gibbs said he had considered adding a second store in the Toledo suburbs, but the development activity generated by ProMedica’s decision to relocate its headquarters and bring up to 2,100 employees to the former Edison Steam Plant on Summit Street was too hard to resist.

“It just feels like the momentum downtown is really swelling up and with the various companies moving downtown, like ProMedica and the other things going on, residents moving downtown, that things are moving in that direction,” Mr. Gibbs said. The downtown store will be about two blocks from ProMedica’s headquarters.

Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2015/12/23/Potbelly-to-open-downtown-store.html#73dRX46iQrU6QPCE.99
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« Reply #379 on: January 28, 2016, 09:12:50 PM »
Great news! Sylvania Avenue is outside the traditional urban core, but it was historically a dense streetcar spine serving a lot of walkable neighborhoods. This area of Toledo got hit hard by the last recession and auto layoffs, so this could be signs of a turnaround in the Glass City.

Published: Tuesday, 1/19/2016 - Updated: 1 week ago
New businesses springing up on Sylvania Avenue
Small stores planned to occupy 1-mile stretch
BY TAYLOR DUNGJEN
BLADE STAFF WRITER

On Sylvania Avenue, Kathy Carey saw potential.

A major conduit through West Toledo, the street is lined with businesses and cuts through busy, stable neighborhoods. After a six-month search for the perfect place to open her bakery, Kathy’s Confections, Ms. Carey walked into 2746 W. Sylvania Ave. and her heart felt settled.

“I looked at it and thought, ‘My gosh. It couldn’t be any more perfect,’ ” she said.

A one-mile stretch of Sylvania Avenue, between Douglas and Secor roads — it divides the Elmhurst and Hampton Park neighborhoods — has been known to District 6 Councilman Tom Waniewski as the ‘Sylvania Avenue Mile.’ His vision for the strip is a walkable destination spot of small businesses.

Although the plan has been in the works for “five or six years” without noticeable action, Mr. Waniewski said “it is cooking. Stuff we’re doing behind the scenes is starting to cook.”

Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2016/01/19/New-businesses-springing-up-on-Sylvania-Avenue.html#4vTEePlhOFgP7lPY.99
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« Reply #383 on: March 16, 2016, 10:37:00 PM »
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« Reply #384 on: March 25, 2016, 04:19:47 PM »
http://www.13abc.com/home/headlines/Major-new-investment-in-Downtown-Toledo-hopes-to-bring-back-dying-neighborhood-372277732.html?device=phone&c=y

Major new investment in Downtown Toledo hopes to bring back dying neighborhood

Since when is St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center downtown? There is over a mile gap between the hospital and CBD, and that is significant in an older, mid-size city like Toledo.

*I'd like to see them develop Cherry further down towards the center city. What Promedica did with that grocery store in Uptown was pretty cool and unique. Infill housing in Warren-Sherman would also be good for hospital workers. The area around there is pretty dead.
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« Reply #385 on: March 25, 2016, 04:22:33 PM »
http://m.toledoblade.com/local/2016/02/28/Greyhound-s-move-to-train-station-nears.html

Greyhounds move to train station nears

Good move, and hopefully the old lot can be developed into a nice infill building.

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« Reply #387 on: April 06, 2016, 12:57:45 AM »
I dont know what they intend to do with the Cherry St corridor but i hope whatever it is, is well thought out. I would hate to see them just build a bunch of new townhouses or mixed use streetfront buildings, because although that would be nice, i dont think it would take off. Theres demand for residential options as well as entertainment options downtown but if they arent in close proximity to the existing, thriving spots....i think its too soon.

 I want to see investment poured into the CBD/Arena District still since the only thriving spots are those adjacent to Fifth Third Field / the Warehouse District. The intersection of Huron & Madison is basically the heart of the city and the 3 out of the 4 huge, tall, historic buildings on the corner are empty. Also the Fiberglas Tower doesnt seem to be coming along very quick. Its the tallest building in the city and its in a prime spot to be a catalyst for surrounding development and investment. I really feel like its essential for the downtown core to be robust before anyone attempts projects on the periphery of downtown.

 I dont even know that the Promedica grocery on Madison will do much for growth Uptown. At least not yet. The same for the neighboring Uptown Green park or whatever its called. Its basically just a hangout for homeless folks which i doubt was the intended purpose. It just sucks because i know all the people behind these projects hearts are in the right place but the timing just seems off. As far as Uptown goes, i feel like it needs to become a more cohesive and dense entertainment district (Adams St) with more restaurants and bars before anything else has a hope of making it. At least in the case of Promedica, i think their mission with the grocery store was less about expediting the gentrification process of Uptown, than it was about giving central Toledo a good, healthy grocery option since the only decent grocery is all the way up at Bancroft and Cherry, effectively making downtown a food desert for low income people with limited transportation options. Luckily, Promedica has more money than they know what to do with, so sustaining this store should be nothing to them.

 As far as necessary amenties to attract residents to downtown goes, we really need 2 or 3 things in my opinion. First and foremost, a quality grocery store, which the Erie Street Market would be perfect for. Next, a pharmacy/corner store like a Walgreens, CVS, etc for quick essentials and it should go in an existing building, not a suburban style new construction. And third, a good fitness center....which I could envision our great benefactor, Promedica blessing us with.

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« Reply #388 on: April 07, 2016, 03:13:49 PM »
^Actually, I think that Uptown grocery store location makes sense since it's walkable to both Downtown and Old West End. It can pull from multiple neighborhoods that still have some middle class wealth. Though I'm with you about Erie Street Market. Even as a kid, I remember that being an underwhelming place. The building was great, but there was constant business turnover. Nothing ever seemed to work except the Libbey Glass Outlet. Cleveland has a good model. Detroit does too with Eastern Market. Erie Street Market is far enough away from the Uptown grocery store that they both should be viable.

Even in top tier, wealthy coastal cities, parks are homeless hangouts. I live in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the world in Downtown Oakland, and our closest park is nothing but homeless people and drug dealers. Everybody tries to avoid that park. When I lived in Mid-Market San Francisco, Civic Center Plaza was nothing but a homeless camp. People defecated and shot up heroin right in front of City Hall.

Even Golden Gate Park is filled with homeless people. That's gonna be par for course in the future all around America...

Toledo actually has a shockingly small visible homeless population since rents are so cheap and there are still tons of old-school Catholic missions that have empathy for poor people. When I was in Downtown Toledo last Christmas, the first thing I noticed was the lack of homeless people (or really the lack of any people lol). Toledo is pretty clean too for a big city, despite all the urban decay everywhere.

I think that Uptown development was a big step in the right direction. If Uptown can get some infill on key streets like Jefferson, Madison, Adams, and Monroe, it could reconnect Downtown to Old West End.

*Madison and Huron was heartbreaking to see. That's arguably the best pre-WW2 urban intersection in Ohio, and it's really dead now. Madison and Huron used to be quite a lot more active back in the 90s and early 2000s. Those are dense, narrow streets loaded with outstanding architecture. The urban potential is huge...

Toledo's economy got hit so incredibly hard over the last decade, it did a ton of damage to the entire metro area. Only Perrysburg seemed to have escaped unscathed. I noticed even Maumee and Sylvania lost a lot of businesses. It's really sad what's happening to Northwest Ohio and Southeast Michigan. It was bad when I was a kid, but it's way worse today. The poverty is so much more extreme and widespread. And water pollution on Lake Erie is much, much worse. I don't think Toledo can recover until Lake Erie is cleaned up and there is no longer any risk of toxic algae shutting down the city's water supply. That was a national PR disaster as bad as the Cuyahoga River catching fire in Cleveland. :|
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« Reply #389 on: April 08, 2016, 06:25:08 PM »
Anyone local to Toledo have any updates on the Fiberglas Tower? I did a quick Google search, and couldn't find anything new.

Also, are there any plans for the demolition site of the Hotel Seagate? It seems like that's still a great place for a hotel, so hopefully Marriott or Hilton come in and build a high-rise property there.
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