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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2017, 03:57:20 PM »
Prominent Oakley site sold from one developer to another

A prominent corner in Oakley has been sold from one real estate developer to another.

PLK Communities LLC, which is just wrapping up construction of its 2940 at the Square townhome project on Markbreit Avenue, purchased a two-thirds of an acre site from Fortus Group for $1.15 million. Fortus had purchased the property in October 2016 for $1.1 million.

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/08/16/exclusive-prominent-oakley-site-sold-from-one.html
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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2017, 08:34:31 PM »
This is why it's such a shame that Center of Cincinnati and Oakley Station were built as strip malls straight outta Mason. If they would've just modified the site plan to put the building in front and parking in the back, demand for apartments/condos in that area would be huge. And maybe they'd get some more interesting tenants than Olive Garden and Bar Louie.

Oakley is one of those middle grounds, where most people want a community that's "walkable" but Olive Garden and Bar Louie are the types of places they want to walk to.

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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2017, 06:43:14 AM »
Most of Oakley is old school residents and children of old school residents. They are not represented by the recent developments on Vandercar. They are not looking for Olive Garden, it is not their choice, Habits or Oakley Pub is. More of them eat at Skyline, Baba and Subway than elsewhere. Oakley has everything a neighborhood needs without the boxes at Oakley Station. The people who live at Oakley Station have come to Oakley a minute ago and will move back to Mason or West Chester when the novelty wears off or their apartment looks drab. It is a scientific fact: no one has ever relocated from Minot Ave. to Vandercar Way. Where they come from no one knows. But there aren't very many of them as a % of Oakley's 10,000 souls.

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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2017, 07:42:51 AM »
It is a shame that they couldn't have done Center of Cincinnati in a much different way, like what Jake described.  That would have been huge for Cincy to have a very high quality, single family yet still dense neighborhood in that area with commercial lining Madison and possible another road there.

Alas, that never happened, but hopefully they can continue to densify what is Center of Cincinnati as time moves forward.

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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2017, 08:33:11 AM »
The upside of terrible suburban shopping plazas is that nothing is built to last. In 30 years we will have the opportunity to redevelop Center of Cincinnati and Oakley Station again, and hopefully we do it right.

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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2017, 09:19:09 AM »
^Yes, another one I was disappointed in was the Mercy Health building off Norwood in Bond Hill.  It seemed like it could have been so much better, just a sea of parking in front of the building which seems to me to back up to the residential housing behind it.  Maybe at some point they can build that area up with parking ramps on the surface parking, etc., but it is just unfortunate that they obviously took the very cheapest route to build it.

Reading about Paycor and their explosive growth, if they decide to build a new building to complement their growth, I hope it is nice and tall and a bit more pedestrian friendly as well.

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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2017, 09:51:54 AM »
It's amazing how well the original rapid transit loop anticipated all of this.  Stations would have been within walking distance of Rookwood, Paycor, Oakley Station, etc. 

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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #67 on: October 03, 2017, 11:43:43 AM »
Not sure if this is the whole story, but it looks like Tap & Screw is not going to be going into Oakley, due to an inability to get a 4-spot parking variance:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154648591097132&set=a.473852152131.265383.710257131&type=3&theater

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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #68 on: October 03, 2017, 11:54:58 AM »
They have been fighting the community council and city for months to try to get that number reduced. We really need to designate no parking requirements for developments in Neighborhood Business Districts unless the parking demand is 2X that required by regular zoning code. Then only require half of what's typically required (or some formula like that).
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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #69 on: October 03, 2017, 11:57:46 AM »
The fact that we have parking requirements for bars and breweries is absurd. It's practically begging people to drink and drive.

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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #70 on: October 03, 2017, 12:28:52 PM »
It looks as if there were multiple factors at play here...but with the advent of Uber/Lyft many people simply do not drive when they go to drinking establishments. And a single digit difference in the 'required' number of spaces and not being able to overcome that is absurd. You had people ready to invest money and start a business in a building that has been empty for something like 8 years and it gets denied over outdated zoning.

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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #71 on: October 03, 2017, 12:48:25 PM »
Maybe they wanted them to put in a drive thru, too

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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #72 on: November 05, 2017, 07:53:29 PM »
RE: Tap & Screw not going into Oakley…
I’ve attended almost every Oakley Community Council meeting in the past 2 ˝ yrs.  Over a year ago, the OCC voted to support the City granting a parking variance for the few parking slots that T&S’s plan fell short of the min reqd spaces.  At an OCC meeting shortly thereafter, a few local business owners (or their lawyers) very forcefully spoke against “ever” allowing T&S to come into the building they had taken a lease on many months earlier to prepare/alter to get opened.  Most (maybe all) of those objectors had acquired variances of greater impact or were grandfathered in before zoning code required min amt of parking.  Also, the landlord from whom T&S took lease did not fix infrastructure problems, including a busted HVAC system and leaking roof.  All residents of Oakley who spoke at OCC mtgs or posted on Oakley NextDoor most enthusiastically support T&S opening at that location.  After meeting with the zoning staff multiple times, the zoning staff told T&S owners that they had a green light.  But, later they threw up roadblocks.  It is widely believed by most Oakley residents and by T&S owners that the deep pockets of some of the objectors pulled strings to cause the zoning staff to throw up roadblocks.

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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #73 on: December 18, 2017, 05:24:11 PM »
3 groups submit for Oakley property



Three development groups have submitted proposals for a 4.2-acre property in Oakley.

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/12/18/exclusive-3-groups-submit-for-oakley-property.html
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Re: Cincinnati: Oakley: Development and News
« Reply #74 on: December 18, 2017, 05:48:56 PM »
Such an awkward parcel of land. That stretch of Kennedy Avenue doesn't feel like a street, it feels like part of the highway onramps.