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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #690 on: January 08, 2011, 11:59:32 PM »
Cyclovert, your question is a topic for the following thread, where the first part of your question was already asked and answered:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,11674.0.html

The second part is best posted at either one of these threads:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,4504.0.html
http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,2068.0.html

The Waterfront Line is a special event and tourist rail line. The rest of the GCRTA rail system operates from 5 a.m. to 1 a.m. So the hours that GCRTA's rail system is NOT operating are the hours that Amtrak is serving Cleveland.
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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #691 on: January 09, 2011, 09:33:09 AM »
thanks!

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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #692 on: January 20, 2011, 11:05:42 AM »
I like the fact that you are taking action to plan ideas... but centralizing trains is almost always bad. Granted we are not the level of city that has to worry just yet, but when you put all your eggs in one basket of transportation you risk getting stuck with something thats 100% inexpandable. Also, in your plan, it looks like the old railway station building (P&R?) would have to be demolished, so I am immediately not a fan because I love that building :)

What happened to the Intermodal Transit Center going in on e9th by the front of the convention center? That would be a great spot for it, along with a completed downtown loop. Then you have commuter/long distance/business travel rail coming in on one side, and local train traffic on another, connected by a CBD of entertainment, etc.

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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #693 on: January 20, 2011, 11:43:45 AM »
Nothing needs to be demolished to access Tower City Center by intercity rail. The West Shore proposal is to build tracks on a bridge above Canal Road. My variation was to move Canal Road to reduce the future maintenance costs of keeping a bridge in good condition.

And I disagree very much on your comment about not having all your trains serving a common station. The goal is to make seamless the connections for passengers between intercity trains, commuter trains, scenic railroad trains and light-rail trains. The best way to do that is to unite all of them in one location -- the union station concept. If we want to attract people from their cars, then reduce the barriers to using rail. The fewer transfers you force on prospective riders, the more riders you will attract.
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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #694 on: January 20, 2011, 12:24:37 PM »
^I totally agree.  And even aside from connectivity, Tower City is a better terminal location for the foreseeable future given its location within downtown.

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« Reply #695 on: January 20, 2011, 02:54:05 PM »
then i read your graphic wrong, because you have it as grass at the corner of canal and old river.

I guess I have my scales/lengths of time a bit confused with you as far as trains. I am thinking long-term like.. well I am considering Paris. There are levels of train transit that interact, but there are seperate hubs when it comes to long distance vs commuter vs local metro. In my opinion, Tower City is the best we have to offer. Its unique, full of activities, and all around gorgeous.

My only qualm is that I feel like the current amtrak station could do so much to interact with that environment. I would love tower city to get an upgrade, but just as much the end of our new convention center could spill out into a beautiful transit station that can ship you right back to NY or DC, etc.

Is tower city actually central to the work force? What about someone who works at erieview? Just thoughts here, but I would say keep Amtrak where it is with a new station, close the loop by using 12th like you had drawn in the other discussion, then put the commuter trains in TC. Once we add more commuter trains, the need for a loop becomes grander, and the addition of a new Amtrak would increase that. If we put the commuter trains at the Amtrak station (without financing and approved plans for a loop or another option) then we would shoot ourselves in the foot.

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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #696 on: January 20, 2011, 03:12:27 PM »
Yep, you read it wrong. The little strip of grass is actually ON Canal Road. The B&O station is just south of that and still standing.

Paris, like London and other major European cities, has multiple stations because each railroad company built its own station with no regard for linking up or coordinating with their competitors. Europe did not go through a union station movement as America's railroads did in the 20th century. Had American railroads not done that, we also would have numerous smaller railroad terminals serving our cities right up until the advent of Amtrak in 1971 rather than one or two big stations serving multiple railroads -- and most importantly, serving travelers' needs.

Tower City is more central to the downtown workforce than the lakefront. Pull out a map and ponder how many office towers you can walk to in five minutes from Tower City vs. the lakefront. Yes, the tourist attractions/Browns Stadium are next to the Amtrak station, but the downtown workers and students are rail's bread-n-butter. And at Tower City you have The Q and Progressive Field which have more event dates than CBS, plus links to the HealthLine, etc.
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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #697 on: January 20, 2011, 05:21:01 PM »
thats really interesting about europe! never knew it. huh, well it was certainly amazing to live in that kind of rail network. kind of kills any chance you have at finding rail that nice in the US hah.

anyways, i see your map and I just didnt notice the station was still there. Its much smaller than I realized. And I am not trying to argue the lakefront is more connected to downtown than TC.. that would be ridiculous.. I am only saying that I would prefer it be in 2 different locations now because the growth might not be able to be sustained.

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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #698 on: June 02, 2011, 08:19:01 AM »
Rail making progress (with video)
Published: Thursday, June 02, 2011
By KELLY METZ
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ELYRIA — The analysis of the proposed West Shore Commuter Rail, a commuter line proposed to connect Sandusky, Vermilion and Lorain with downtown Cleveland, is moving along. Planners updated the Lorain County Commission as to where they see the project going in the next 15 years.

The commissioners, in 2009, approved the Alternatives Analysis study by consultant Parsons Brinckerhoff Inc., of Cleveland. The intent of the study is to identify and compare the costs, benefits and performance of different technologies for providing commuter rail service using existing rail corridors or for enhancing bus services, according to All Aboard Ohio. All Aboard Ohio is a statewide nonprofit organization that promotes improvements to passenger rail and public transportation.


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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #699 on: June 03, 2011, 10:03:41 AM »
How did All Aboard Ohio get lumped into this? We haven't been directly involved in the advocacy of this project in 2-3 years. This shows what happens when a reporter looks back at old articles as a source for their new article rather than picking up the phone.
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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #700 on: June 03, 2011, 10:16:36 AM »
Don't believe a whole lot that comes from the Morning Journal. I used to live in Lorain and they could never get any facts right in their stories.

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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #701 on: June 03, 2011, 10:20:30 AM »
They've interviewed me often over the past 20 years, so I'm well acquainted with them. I just like keeping the pressure on the media to avoid being lazy.
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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #702 on: September 21, 2011, 09:11:21 AM »
Just rolling around the transit threads and came across this. Never heard of it! Any update on its progress?

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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #703 on: September 21, 2011, 04:28:30 PM »
It is in a partial alternatives analysis, but a full FTA-compliant AA cannot be conducted due to lack of funds. There will be public meetings coming up soon, so look for updates -- especially at the West Shore website and Facebook page (http://www.ridewestshore.com/ and http://www.facebook.com/ridewestshore.

Look for employer-subsidized bus service to Lorain and Erie counties as a possible initial step forward.
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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #704 on: September 26, 2011, 12:23:37 AM »
What kind of trains would this line use?

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« Reply #705 on: September 26, 2011, 08:43:04 AM »
Way too early to be able to answer that. The planning hasn't advanced far enough to identify what is the best mode for this corridor. The early returns show that rail between Lorain and Tower City would perform best, but if there's no money then bus would have to be considered. There is even some question as to whether this corridor will have any public transit beyond what it has now, considering the two project-sponsor agencies in Lorain County do not have the funding to do anything right now.
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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #706 on: October 05, 2011, 09:04:50 AM »
Well at least someone got to commute into downtown Cleveland on a really nice train on the West Shore Corridor tracks through Lakewood this morning....






In the 1980s, a few months after the Conrail business train passed down a line, things would start disappearing from along the tracks like old depots, interlocking towers, etc. Sometimes a rail line would disappear too. I hope that's not the case from today's visit by the NS biz train.

The train apparently stopped for a few minutes on top of the tall Rocky River trestle to take in the view or so NS execs could look down at the condition of the bridge. My Rocky River spy called me to let me know the train was coming. So I walked quickly about 500 feet to the tracks expecting to arrive just as the train did. But as I looked west down the 4-mile straightaway, there was no sign of the train. It would be a few more minutes before the train could be heard and then seen.
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« Reply #707 on: October 11, 2011, 08:22:15 AM »
Federally funded transportation projects take an average of 10 years to go from idea to ribbon-cutting. But the $400 million is not correct. The reporter added all of the options on the table -- two bus options and two rail options.

The public meetings are coming up this month to hear more details, including one in Lakewood. I'm trying to get this list from the consulting team.

Commuter rail system for area called 10 to 15 years in future (with video)
Published: Tuesday, October 11, 2011
By ALLISON STROUSE
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CARLISLE TOWNSHIP — Anyone hoping to see a commuter transit system connecting Erie, Lorain, and Cuyahoga counties might have to wait awhile.

The Lorain County Community Alliance, in a meeting yesterday, talked about putting in the commuter railway that would allow people to travel from Sandusky to Cleveland, Tim Rosenberger, technical specialist with Parsons Brinckerhoff, said a rail system is still 10 to 15 years away.

“If you’re ever going to have a successful commuter rail, you have to have successful busing into downtown Cleveland,” Rosenberger said.

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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #708 on: October 17, 2011, 08:07:11 PM »
October 17, 2011

Public Meetings on Proposed WestShore Corridor Transportation Project Plan

GREATER CLEVELAND – In the near future, residents, regional visitors and commuter could have safe, convenient new options for travel between major points in Erie, Lorain and Cuyahoga Counties including commuter bus and rail, according to planners on the WestShore Transportation Project. However, new local funding sources must be identified, further studies undertaken, and railroad and intercounty agreements inked before a major new service like commuter rail service is ready to operate.

On behalf of project co-sponsors Lorain County Board of Commissioners/Lorain County Transit and Lorain County Community Alliance, the WestShore Commuter Rail Task Force and communities in Lorain County, Erie County and Cuyahoga County, will hold three public meetings to present study findings to-date for recommended travel options, costs, benefits and funding/financing for the WestShore Corridor.  Public comments are needed in order to finalize the proposed package of options designed to improve longer-distance public transit service between the WestShore counties of Erie, Lorain and Cuyahoga.

The public is invited and encouraged to attend one or more of the following meetings:

Cuyahoga County—October 24, 2011               
Lakewood City Hall                                     
Auditorium                                               
12650 Detroit Avenue                               
Lakewood, OH 44107                               
6-8 pm                                                   

Lorain County—October 26, 2011
Black River Landing
421 Black River Lane
Lorain, OH 44052
6-8 pm

Erie County -- October 25, 2011
Erie County Administration Building
3rd Floor Commissioner’s Chambers
2900 Columbus Avenue
Sandusky, OH 44870
6-8 pm



For more information, please contact Tim Rosenberger, PB at 216-832-2952, Nancy Lyon Stadler, Michael Baker, Jr., Inc. at 216-776-6814 or Marissa Beechuk, BrownFlynn at
440-484-0100, ext.211.

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WESTSHORE CORRIDOR TRANSPORTATION STUDY BACKGROUND

The WestShore Corridor Transportation Project (WCTP) seeks to address the lack of public transportation options for travel in the WestShore Corridor, which extends from downtown Cleveland through western Cuyahoga, Lorain, and Erie Counties to Sandusky. The need for improvements is based on several factors including a lack of public transit options for inter-county travel, lack of transit options within Lorain and Erie Counties, and the need for more sustainable land use patterns in suburban growth areas.

While the development of commuter rail service along the Norfolk Southern (former Nickel Plate) rail line that passes through Lakewood, Bay Village and much of northern Lorain County has been the goal for many citizens and political leaders in the WestShore Corridor, the analysis conducted for the WCTP indicates that a transit market must first be established within the WestShore Corridor before commuter rail can become a reality. Currently, commuter bus services to downtown Cleveland operate from Medina, Summit, Portage and Lake counties. Lorain County is the most populous county surrounding Cleveland that does not have bus service to downtown Cleveland. The WCTP suggests that an inter-county transit market could be established in several phases.

In Phase 1, during the next five years, would include implementation of commuter bus service between Lorain County and downtown Cleveland.  The proposed service would include basic commuter bus service between the city of Lorain and downtown Cleveland with stops at Black River Landing, Midway Mall, and two new park and ride lots located in Sheffield and Avon. In this phase, Lorain County Transit would be restored to its pre-2009 service levels to distribute passengers throughout Lorain County.

Implementing this service would cost approximately $11 million per year in buying buses and outfitting park-and-ride lots in Lorain County. The annual estimated annual operating cost of Phase 1 is $8.3 million. While commuter bus service is made operational, work would continue on the analysis of the benefits and environmental impacts of the commuter rail service to allow for that service to be developed in the future. Discussions with the Norfolk-Southern Railroad about use of their rail line for commuter rail service began as part of the West Shore study, and would continue through the first phase of development.

In Phase 2 (Years 6-10), commuter bus service in Lorain County would expand, and commuter bus service between Erie County and downtown Cleveland would begin. In this phase two new bus routes would be started to supplmenet the route operating between Lorain and downtown Cleveland. One new route would operate between Sheffield and downtown Cleveland, with one park and ride lot located in Sheffield and two in Avon. A third commuter bus route would begin providing service between Sandusky and downtown Cleveland, with stops at park and ride facilities located in Sandusky, Huron, and Vermilion.

The estimated cost of this second phase of service would be about $16 million for additional buses and park and ride lot, and about $10 million in additional annual operating cost.

Also in this phase, regional transit officials would complete the analysis of commuter rail service and reach an agreement with the Norfolk Southern railroad regarding use of their rail line, and would begin the design of improvements to the rail line, stations and other infrastructure needed to operate commuter rail service.
WESTSHORE CORRIDOR TRANSPORTATION STUDY BACKGROUND - Continued
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In Phase 3 (Years 10-15), commuter rail service would begin operation and would replace some or all of the commuter bus services in Lorain County, and would perhaps replace some bus services in Cuyahoga County.  The commuter rail service would operate between Black River Landing in Lorain and downtown Cleveland. Stations would be located in Lorain, Sheffield, Avon, Westlake, Bay Village, Rocky River, Lakewood and Cleveland. It is hoped that many of the park and ride facilities developed in the first two phases of the project would now function as park and ride lots at the commuter rail stations. Commuter bus service would continue to be operated between Sandusky and Cleveland as in Phase 2. Extension of commuter rail service to Sandusky and other Erie County locations would be re-examined as a possibility for the future.

The WestShore Study has estimated that it would cost nearly $160 million in improvements to the Norfolk Southern rail line and associated stations and park-and-ride lots, and in purchasing new rail cars and other equipment, to operate a startup commuter rail service.  The estimated annual cost of operating the commuter rail and commuter bus services in Phase 3 is approximately $17 million.

There are many challenges to developing intercounty transit service in the WestShore corridor. The most important of these is the establishment of a sustainable funding source to support the service. Currently, Lorain and Erie Counties lack a secure dedicated funding source for mass transit service to match the 1% county wide sales tax that supports the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (GCRTA) in Cuyahoga County. A source for those county’s portions of the cost of operating the service would be necessary to allow service to be operated. Identifying a potential operator of the commuter bus and rail service-whether it be Lorain County Transit (LCT), GCRTA, Erie County Transit, some combination of those agencies, or a new agency, is another issue that must be resolved before operation can begin. The high cost of commuter rail may be beyond the funding capacity of the region at this time, but the phased approach may allow for the more fiscally manageable commuter bus service to begin operating while the region works toward the goal of developing commuter rail. 

The budget for this phase of the WestShore Corridor Transportation Project is $423,000 and was managed by Lorain County.  Funds for 80% of this budget came from a Federal appropriation secured by Congresswoman Betty Sutton in 2008.  The remaining 20% of the project budget was contributed by local sources including the private sector, municipalities, transit authorities and government agencies from all three project area counties. Representatives from the Northeast Ohio Areawide Coordinating Agency (NOACA), GCRTA, ODOT, Lorain County Transit and other organizations helped in manage the project via the WestShore Corridor Commuter Rail Task Force.

Public comments will be accepted through November 2, 2011 at WestshoreAA@pbworld.com.
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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #709 on: October 19, 2011, 11:15:27 PM »
I am looking forward to the Lakewood meeting on Monday, Trying to convince more people to show up too.

I find the West-shore's Facebook page is in desperate need of help, they have event and hey don't bother to inform any followers of the page about that event.

I find curious how few people know about this project.

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« Reply #710 on: October 20, 2011, 01:21:08 AM »
I've posted it on All Aboard Ohio's three Facebook pages and Tweeted it, too! We're trying to get the word out. Friend All Aboard Ohio's Facebook page. Follow us on Twitter. Share our updates and info!
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« Reply #711 on: October 20, 2011, 09:31:34 AM »
Link? (for us lazy people that need info spoon fed to us)

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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #713 on: October 24, 2011, 03:47:55 PM »
REMINDER:

The public is invited and encouraged to attend one or more of the following meetings:

Cuyahoga County—October 24, 2011               
Lakewood City Hall                                     
Auditorium                                               
12650 Detroit Avenue                               
Lakewood, OH 44107                               
6-8 pm                                                   

Lorain County—October 26, 2011
Black River Landing
421 Black River Lane
Lorain, OH 44052
6-8 pm

Erie County -- October 25, 2011
Erie County Administration Building
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Sandusky, OH 44870
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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #714 on: October 25, 2011, 06:49:44 AM »
Cleveland, Lorain and Sandusky would be linked by bus, rail under transit plan
Published: Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 7:07 AM     Updated: Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 7:17 AM
 By Tom Breckenridge, The Plain Dealer The Plain Dealer

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- An ambitious, 16-year plan to resurrect Lorain County's bus system and link Sandusky to Cleveland by commuter rail lacks a key ingredient -- money.

But that hasn't stopped advocates from rolling out a plan this week for the WestShore Corridor Transportation Project, with estimated costs of $400 million.

The multiphase effort addresses what planners say is a dearth of public transit links between Sandusky, Lorain and Cleveland.




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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #715 on: October 25, 2011, 07:02:53 AM »
I attended the meeting in Lakewood last night the turnout was light only about 15 people, most were from Lorain county. 

couple things that stood out.

FTA funding for this project is contingent primarily on Lorain county, reestablishing transit service, finding a secure funding source for transit and addressing the land use issues.

Going to this meeting made me appreciate how good we have it in Cuyahoga county.

The feedback from Lakewood officials has been positive, Tom Bullock (councilman Ward 3?) sat in on the meeting and expressed his and the mayors support for the project.

They are considering dual mode Diesel/electric trains, but as of now there are no trains that meet FRA standards for mixed use with freight trains, although that may change in the next 5-10 years. 

Got some info from the Consultant on the blue line extension, he believes it will end up being buses to both Randall park mall and to the Chagrin highlands, not Rail.

Talked an RTA Representative about the Redline extension and Clifton Blvd project. it was said the Clifton project was awarded 3 million, but is short of the 5 million needed for the project.  Red line, was assumed to be BRT only with the healthline possibly being split at University circle and second line from UC to Downtown Euclid.

 

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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #716 on: October 28, 2011, 01:33:39 AM »
Thanks for the update, biker.  At least I'm glad there IS a timetable for the West Shore commuter rail, even if it seems a bit long (given the fact that the route has been looked at and proposed for over a decade)... It's discouraging, though, that only 15 (mainly) Lorain County folks were interested enough to show up.

As to the Blue and Red Line proposals, ... I'd seriously want to look into the background of this "consultant."  Is he legit or, just as in the GM-backed National City  Lines that were hatched merely to destroy American cities' streetcar/rail transit systems in the 1930s and 40s, it a shadowy organization (in greater Cleveland, at least) that's out to shove friggin' BRT down our throats no matter how ill matched for our transit needs, or how underperforming BRT is compared to rapid transit.  You have to wonder whether there could possibly be potential illegality, too, for if FTA is spending millions of tax dollars for RTA to study "alternatives" and yet, even before a dime is spent, you have some "consultant" running around claiming that, well, it's all over but the shoutin'... forget any rail, THE DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE that all proposed extensions will be BRT... Well, connect the dots.  Doesn't give to much integrity to the Federal "alternative analysis" process, does it?

Anyway, back to West Shore…
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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #717 on: October 28, 2011, 09:09:00 PM »
Thanks for the update, biker.  At least I'm glad there IS a timetable for the West Shore commuter rail, even if it seems a bit long (given the fact that the route has been looked at and proposed for over a decade)... It's discouraging, though, that only 15 (mainly) Lorain County folks were interested enough to show up.

As to the Blue and Red Line proposals, ... I'd seriously want to look into the background of this "consultant."  Is he legit or, just as in the GM-backed National City  Lines that were hatched merely to destroy American cities' streetcar/rail transit systems in the 1930s and 40s, it a shadowy organization (in greater Cleveland, at least) that's out to shove friggin' BRT down our throats no matter how ill matched for our transit needs, or how underperforming BRT is compared to rapid transit.  You have to wonder whether there could possibly be potential illegality, too, for if FTA is spending millions of tax dollars for RTA to study "alternatives" and yet, even before a dime is spent, you have some "consultant" running around claiming that, well, it's all over but the shoutin'... forget any rail, THE DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE that all proposed extensions will be BRT... Well, connect the dots.  Doesn't give to much integrity to the Federal "alternative analysis" process, does it?

Anyway, back to West Shore…

it was the same consultant for the west shore.  his reason were simple there isn't enough riders to support the extension.   Chagrin highlands is extremely unfriendly to transit.   it is a 10 minute walk for Harvard to the door at Eaton Corp's new HQ.

now if this was part of a larger commuter rail link to Solon then things would change.

the second source was an engineer from RTA.  She said that about the redline extension.

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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #718 on: November 18, 2011, 03:05:24 PM »
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Re: Cleveland: West Shore commuter rail
« Reply #719 on: January 15, 2012, 03:33:14 AM »
Would it be possible to have the West Shore Commuter rail and a potential Orange Line running on the same N&S tracks?  My thoughts are that an RTA line to Lakewood could be up and running in a shorter period of time because it is a smaller project.  It could even be an extension of one of the Green-Blue lines west instead being a line of its own color.  Furthermore, the tracks through Lakewood run close enough to Detroit Ave that it should be able to pull cars off that street.  Of course, the station entrances must face Detroit Ave to spur TOD and not to steal pedestrians away from Detroit Ave.

First get a downtown Lakewood - Tower City line running and then work on a separate expanded service from Lorain on one end to Mentor (via UC) on the other.  I just get the feeling that focusing on the bigger project means that we'll have to wait longer for it to happen.