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Re: Another dumb-a$$ list / Ranking of cities
« Reply #2010 on: February 08, 2017, 08:49:56 AM »
The world's most "admired" & reputable cities? Canada has 3 in the top 10. Unsurprisingly, USA has none. Debate?
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/12/world-most-admired-and-trusted-cities




well, the first thing that jumps to mind is that none of those places have a military or are in the least bit capable of defending themselves. lucky for them uncle sam has had their back for the past 150 years. is that reputable or admirable? i guess not, otherwise places like new london, ct. or manassas or someplace around quantico, va. would be the most admirable and reputable cities. if countries like those listed actually payed the protection money they truly owe i bet they would be quite a bit more strained.

just imagine what we could do with all that extra loot if we did not have to play world police? maybe we could even have nice things and nicer cities. or there would be world chaos or something.

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Re: Another dumb-a$$ list / Ranking of cities
« Reply #2011 on: February 08, 2017, 09:05:59 AM »
At least America Junior is good at something I guess.

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« Reply #2012 on: February 08, 2017, 09:33:32 AM »
^They prefer to be called "US Lite".

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« Reply #2013 on: February 08, 2017, 10:15:32 AM »
The world's most "admired" & reputable cities? Canada has 3 in the top 10. Unsurprisingly, USA has none. Debate?
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/12/world-most-admired-and-trusted-cities




No cities in Africa, no cities in Asia, no cities in South America, no cities in Latin America.

Basically Western/Northern Europe, Canada and the largest city in Australia. Sounds about right for the Davos crowd.

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« Reply #2014 on: February 08, 2017, 10:25:20 AM »
The world's most "admired" & reputable cities? Canada has 3 in the top 10. Unsurprisingly, USA has none. Debate?
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/12/world-most-admired-and-trusted-cities




No cities in Africa, no cities in Asia, no cities in South America, no cities in Latin America.

Basically Western/Northern Europe, Canada and the largest city in Australia. Sounds about right for the Davos crowd.

"Reputability" and "level of trust" are just really idiotic criteria.

Rome (#8) has a high-moderate level of crime including theft, robbery and vandalism. Not to mention serious problems with corruption and bribery.

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« Reply #2015 on: February 08, 2017, 10:33:07 AM »
The world's most "admired" & reputable cities? Canada has 3 in the top 10. Unsurprisingly, USA has none. Debate?
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/12/world-most-admired-and-trusted-cities




No cities in Africa, no cities in Asia, no cities in South America, no cities in Latin America.

Basically Western/Northern Europe, Canada and the largest city in Australia. Sounds about right for the Davos crowd.

"Reputability" and "level of trust" are just really idiotic criteria.

Rome (#8) has a high-moderate level of crime including theft, robbery and vandalism. Not to mention serious problems with corruption and bribery.

I didn't even think about that. Even though Tokyo is the safest city in the world if you're a Europhile responding to this survey you'll pretend Copenhagen is.

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From the article: On top of trust, esteem, admiration and respect, cities are also rated on their economy, business environment and the efficiency of their administration.

My bad, they aren't even looking at safety.

Yeah, you could put cities in any order with those categories.

Then I look and see that there are only 55 cities ranked and Seattle, a smaller city, is on the list. This tells me the survey excluded a lot of larger population centers making it less global and more selective.
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« Reply #2016 on: February 08, 2017, 10:39:45 AM »

"Reputability" and "level of trust" are just really idiotic criteria.


It's a junk science way to put a seemingly quantifiable score on a list of cities the authors like best. It's certainly a list that is deserving of the title of this discussion thread.

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« Reply #2017 on: March 08, 2017, 10:41:37 AM »
These 3 maps show how US metro economies are doing.
@berubea1 explains in a new blog post https://t.co/1iSU4w3fAY
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« Reply #2018 on: March 09, 2017, 12:42:33 PM »
^ Brookings always does a nice report, even if you want to quibble with some assumptions and estimates.  I wonder how Cleveland would have looked if 2010 and 2011 were dropped from the data.  Cleveland's best growth in about every measure came late in the 2010-15 period.
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« Reply #2019 on: March 14, 2017, 02:22:57 PM »
Contrary to tech's image as an equalizer, high-tech jobs & Industries are  concentrated in just a few metros -https://t.co/lnAlOdmf9O https://t.co/qzkXoLDrAs
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Re: Another dumb-a$$ list / Ranking of cities
« Reply #2020 on: March 29, 2017, 09:58:13 AM »
America’s 100 Richest Places

Cities and towns with ties to Wall Street and the Silicon Valley, and a smattering of communities in between, boasted the highest U.S. household incomes in 2015, according to a Bloomberg analysis of census data.

Atherton, California, in the technology corridor between San Francisco and San Jose, topped the list as America’s wealthiest town, while more than one-third of the nation’s 100 richest households were located within 50 miles of New York City.

...

Ohio

13. Indian Hill, Ohio
26. New Albany, Ohio
59. Pepper Pike, Ohio

Full list:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-hundred-richest-places/
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« Reply #2021 on: March 29, 2017, 10:31:38 AM »
America’s 100 Richest Places

Cities and towns with ties to Wall Street and the Silicon Valley, and a smattering of communities in between, boasted the highest U.S. household incomes in 2015, according to a Bloomberg analysis of census data.

Atherton, California, in the technology corridor between San Francisco and San Jose, topped the list as America’s wealthiest town, while more than one-third of the nation’s 100 richest households were located within 50 miles of New York City.

...

Ohio

13. Indian Hill, Ohio
26. New Albany, Ohio
59. Pepper Pike, Ohio

Full list:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-hundred-richest-places/

Odd since Gates Mills and Hunting Valley are well above Pepper Pike and the highest in the state in regard to household incomes.  Maybe they are not considered towns....   
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Re: Another dumb-a$$ list / Ranking of cities
« Reply #2022 on: March 29, 2017, 10:32:01 AM »
its interesting that new albany could jump up so high when just 20yrs ago it was rolling farmland. i guess that is the way it goes in boomtowns like columbus. i imagine there are new richy rich burbs around similar boomy cities like austin, indianapolis and the like as well.

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« Reply #2023 on: March 29, 2017, 10:55:21 AM »
America’s 100 Richest Places

Cities and towns with ties to Wall Street and the Silicon Valley, and a smattering of communities in between, boasted the highest U.S. household incomes in 2015, according to a Bloomberg analysis of census data.

Atherton, California, in the technology corridor between San Francisco and San Jose, topped the list as America’s wealthiest town, while more than one-third of the nation’s 100 richest households were located within 50 miles of New York City.

...

Ohio

13. Indian Hill, Ohio
26. New Albany, Ohio
59. Pepper Pike, Ohio

Full list:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-hundred-richest-places/

Odd since Gates Mills and Hunting Valley are well above Pepper Pike and the highest in the state in regard to household incomes.  Maybe they are not considered towns....   

Hunting Valley is the highest in the state (Gates Mills is #5, behind HV, Indian Hill, Kirtland Hills, and Springboro) but it's a village, not town, by definition.
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Re: Another dumb-a$$ list / Ranking of cities
« Reply #2024 on: March 29, 2017, 10:55:52 AM »
America’s 100 Richest Places

Cities and towns with ties to Wall Street and the Silicon Valley, and a smattering of communities in between, boasted the highest U.S. household incomes in 2015, according to a Bloomberg analysis of census data.

Atherton, California, in the technology corridor between San Francisco and San Jose, topped the list as America’s wealthiest town, while more than one-third of the nation’s 100 richest households were located within 50 miles of New York City.

...

Ohio

13. Indian Hill, Ohio
26. New Albany, Ohio
59. Pepper Pike, Ohio

Full list:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-hundred-richest-places/

Odd since Gates Mills and Hunting Valley are well above Pepper Pike and the highest in the state in regard to household incomes.  Maybe they are not considered towns....   
America’s 100 Richest Places

Cities and towns with ties to Wall Street and the Silicon Valley, and a smattering of communities in between, boasted the highest U.S. household incomes in 2015, according to a Bloomberg analysis of census data.

Atherton, California, in the technology corridor between San Francisco and San Jose, topped the list as America’s wealthiest town, while more than one-third of the nation’s 100 richest households were located within 50 miles of New York City.

...

Ohio

13. Indian Hill, Ohio
26. New Albany, Ohio
59. Pepper Pike, Ohio

Full list:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-hundred-richest-places/

Odd since Gates Mills and Hunting Valley are well above Pepper Pike and the highest in the state in regard to household incomes.  Maybe they are not considered towns....   

Gates Mills only has 2k people... don't you need 5k people to be considered a city? The list might technically be right. The areas in Ohio that we perceive to be extremely wealthy are just neighborhoods or specific sections of suburbs. Not within real municipal boundaries. I thought Bay Village would make the list but the average household income in Bay Village is only $70k a year. It's also pretty big (15k people) so more likely to be inclusive. Indian Hill only has 5k people so it's just barely considered a city. Shaker Hts. is similar in household income to Bay Village and has I think 30-40k people but there's obviously a huge difference between houses by Shaker Lakes (what comes to mind for most people) vs any other area of Shaker.

Bexley, OH and Hyde Park and certain areas that surround it in Cincinnati would also blow these places out of the water if boundaries were drawn differently.

It's funny how Beverly Hills never comes close to being number one on these lists. I bet if you did a survey, most Americans would still expect it to be number 1, at least in California.
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« Reply #2025 on: March 29, 2017, 11:00:59 AM »
America’s 100 Richest Places

Cities and towns with ties to Wall Street and the Silicon Valley, and a smattering of communities in between, boasted the highest U.S. household incomes in 2015, according to a Bloomberg analysis of census data.

Atherton, California, in the technology corridor between San Francisco and San Jose, topped the list as America’s wealthiest town, while more than one-third of the nation’s 100 richest households were located within 50 miles of New York City.

...

Ohio

13. Indian Hill, Ohio
26. New Albany, Ohio
59. Pepper Pike, Ohio

Full list:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-hundred-richest-places/

Odd since Gates Mills and Hunting Valley are well above Pepper Pike and the highest in the state in regard to household incomes.  Maybe they are not considered towns....   

Hunting Valley is the highest in the state (Gates Mills is #5, behind HV, Indian Hill, Kirtland Hills, and Springboro) but it's a village, not town, by definition.

I don't know why it would make a difference for the purpose of that article though.  In Ohio, we have cities, villages, and townships.  Seems like the ranking uses 'town' for what we consider a 'city.'

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Re: Another dumb-a$$ list / Ranking of cities
« Reply #2026 on: March 29, 2017, 11:06:19 AM »
Interesting list- note that since it's an average one or two outliers with huge incomes can really affect the numbers. By guess is that's why Indian Hill is on the list with Silicon Valley and NYC-someone is skewing the average (not that it's a poor place to begin with.)

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« Reply #2027 on: March 29, 2017, 11:13:26 AM »
Atherton, California, in the technology corridor between San Francisco and San Jose, topped the list as America’s wealthiest town, while more than one-third of the nation’s 100 richest households were located within 50 miles of New York City.

Oh those darn socialist republics of California and New York and their bootie-clad Golden Doodles!

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« Reply #2028 on: March 29, 2017, 01:48:13 PM »
^Well, in Atherton's case and much of Silicon Bay, we're talking libertarians, not liberals or socialists. This was Hillary country, not Bernie country. "Those damn socialists!" is heard quite often in the Bay lol. You also hear a lot of "Those damn overpaid schoolteachers!" This is coming from Democrats...DINO limousine liberals. I mean hell, "bootstrapping" is one of the Bay's favorite terms to describe startups. "Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, America, and stop complaining about tech taking your jobs!"

Many Americans make the mistake of thinking the Bay is still liberal. That train left the station a long time ago. It's much more of a "I got mine! Screw you!" type of place than liberal Great Lakes cities (more socialist and union oriented) or Northeastern cities (less NIMBY, more progressive).

*Liberalism is not what made the Bay rich, and certainly not Atherton. Ruthless capitalism is what made the Bay rich...hence the tax situation at companies like Apple and other Bay Area giants. And just look at Uber...

**Liberal California is more Sacramento and Hollywood. Though even LA seems to have growing libertarianism as tech booms in Venice...
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« Reply #2029 on: March 29, 2017, 03:55:28 PM »
^Well, in Atherton's case and much of Silicon Bay, we're talking libertarians, not liberals or socialists. This was Hillary country, not Bernie country. "Those damn socialists!" is heard quite often in the Bay lol. You also hear a lot of "Those damn overpaid schoolteachers!" This is coming from Democrats...DINO limousine liberals. I mean hell, "bootstrapping" is one of the Bay's favorite terms to describe startups. "Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, America, and stop complaining about tech taking your jobs!"

Many Americans make the mistake of thinking the Bay is still liberal. That train left the station a long time ago. It's much more of a "I got mine! Screw you!" type of place than liberal Great Lakes cities (more socialist and union oriented) or Northeastern cities (less NIMBY, more progressive).

*Liberalism is not what made the Bay rich, and certainly not Atherton. Ruthless capitalism is what made the Bay rich...hence the tax situation at companies like Apple and other Bay Area giants. And just look at Uber...

**Liberal California is more Sacramento and Hollywood. Though even LA seems to have growing libertarianism as tech booms in Venice...

While I wasn't directing the comment at a detailed ZIP code localized analysis, I get where you're coming from.   My comment was directed at the average deep red state Trump voter views New York and California as "Socialist Republics" that should just leave secede from the union.  Meanwhile the wealthiest people in the US all live in these havens.   

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« Reply #2030 on: April 14, 2017, 02:19:52 PM »
Cincinnati named a top U.S. city of the future
Apr 14, 2017, 10:58am EDT
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Cincinnati has been named one of the top 10 American cities of the future by fDi Magazine.

The Queen City was named No. 6 overall in large cities in the American Cities of the Future edition of the magazine along with No. 9 in large cities for economic potential, No. 8 in large cities for business friendliness and No. 4 in large cities for foreign direct investment strategy.

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/04/14/cincinnati-named-a-top-u-s-city-of-the-future.html

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« Reply #2031 on: April 15, 2017, 12:35:00 PM »
There seems to be a lot of tech start up companies in CIN. Obviously that's happening in most cities but Cincinnati seems to have a pretty big (and rapidly growing) tech scene receiving a lot of investment, from what I see on LinkedIn.

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« Reply #2032 on: April 20, 2017, 01:55:38 PM »
There seems to be a lot of tech start up companies in CIN. Obviously that's happening in most cities but Cincinnati seems to have a pretty big (and rapidly growing) tech scene receiving a lot of investment, from what I see on LinkedIn.

This is true. Especially in OTR. I sell companies their servers, software (licenses), hardware and cloud services (AWS & Azure). I travel sometimes to Austin and we're getting noticed on their radars as well.

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« Reply #2033 on: April 20, 2017, 02:42:37 PM »
There seems to be a lot of tech start up companies in CIN. Obviously that's happening in most cities but Cincinnati seems to have a pretty big (and rapidly growing) tech scene receiving a lot of investment, from what I see on LinkedIn.

This is true. Especially in OTR. I sell companies their servers, software (licenses), hardware and cloud services (AWS & Azure). I travel sometimes to Austin and we're getting noticed on their radars as well.

Right! Any word on why OTR in particular? I'm curious.

Really?! No way. You work for Azure? I get calls from Azure all the time because I've used them to deploy web apps. They used to hound me all the time. I'd get so disappointed, getting calls from Microsoft, thinking it as a recruiter interested in me (I sent my resume all over the place) but it's just them trying to get me to upgrade the service. They were pretty relentless when I first signed up. That's awesome. Sounds like you have a really cool job and you're in the right place for it.

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« Reply #2034 on: April 21, 2017, 07:48:49 AM »
There seems to be a lot of tech start up companies in CIN. Obviously that's happening in most cities but Cincinnati seems to have a pretty big (and rapidly growing) tech scene receiving a lot of investment, from what I see on LinkedIn.

This is true. Especially in OTR. I sell companies their servers, software (licenses), hardware and cloud services (AWS & Azure). I travel sometimes to Austin and we're getting noticed on their radars as well.

Right! Any word on why OTR in particular? I'm curious.

Really?! No way. You work for Azure? I get calls from Azure all the time because I've used them to deploy web apps. They used to hound me all the time. I'd get so disappointed, getting calls from Microsoft, thinking it as a recruiter interested in me (I sent my resume all over the place) but it's just them trying to get me to upgrade the service. They were pretty relentless when I first signed up. That's awesome. Sounds like you have a really cool job and you're in the right place for it.

Azure is Microsoft's answer to Amazon (AWS) and cloud infrastructure management.

I think it's a combination of a few things ...

1. There's momentum. A couple of tech startups became successful and people in their network saw that it could be done.

2. Crossroads has an extremely aggressive incubator/mentoring/entrepreneur program called Oceann. At one of their latest events, they had Daymond John speak, from Shark Tank. http://oceanaccelerator.com/

3. It seems like everyone's working as one large network to accomplish a single goal and that is to put Cincy on the map and promote their ideas.

4. A lot of the upper management from some of the local startups came from large corporations, i.e. P&G, is a great example. So they have the know-how in being a successful leader. Side note, many of Crossroads leadership staff came from large organizations, including Chuck Mingo the 2nd in command to Brian Tome.

5. Just great ideas, right ... Take Lisnr for instance ... this technology has the ability to really change things on a global scale. I'm in my mid 30's now and having spent 15+ years in wireless I remember when people were like "what's Bluetooth?" ... Now we're shocked if a device doesn't have Bluetooth. Check this out: http://lisnr.com/ ... SXSW: https://www.forbes.com/sites/theyec/2016/03/10/10-ways-your-startup-can-rise-above-the-noise-at-sxsw/#7a24c07a33b2


Yeah, it's a great job!

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« Reply #2036 on: April 21, 2017, 08:43:11 AM »
I thought I saw Cincinnati and Columbus just missed the cut at 11 & 12 :)

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« Reply #2037 on: April 21, 2017, 10:07:47 AM »
I'd get so disappointed, getting calls from Microsoft, thinking it as a recruiter interested in me (I sent my resume all over the place) but it's just them trying to get me to upgrade the service.

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« Reply #2039 on: May 25, 2017, 09:11:16 PM »
The 25 best cities in the US for people under the age of 35

Ohio got 3 cities on this dumb-a$$ list:

7. Columbus
16. Cincinnati
23. Dayton


Read the rest of the list here:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/22/the-25-best-cities-in-the-u-s-for-millennials.html
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