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Offline Paul in Cleveland

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2006, 06:27:03 AM »
I understand.  But before you get too bummed, consider this.  Cleveland-based Parker Hannifin Corp. is a partner in this project with the GLSC (that's why I was invited to the thing yesterday, my magazine covers hydraulics, which is Parker's core business).  One of the main Parker guys said that this was going to be a true test bed ... sounds like they'll occasionally rip out some of the guts of the thing and replace them with next generation fluid power controlled components.  Parker is working on this very seriously, and they have some (laboratory-type) test beds for wind turbines somewhere near Marysville.  So, think of this "castoff" as a huge experiment.  It could help create bigger and more efficient wind turbines worldwide.

On another note, I asked if this was the largest wind turbine in an urban/downtown setting, and I was told yes -- in the U.S.  But I guess Toronto has one or several near the CN tower on the lakeshore.  News to me!

Also, there are maybe 60 or more wind turbines going up somewhere east of Port Stanley (if I remember the conversation that I overheard correctly) on the north side of Lake Erie.  I'd love to get a line of them in the middle of the Lake opposite downtown Cleveland, I think it would be visually stunning -- and position Cleveland as a true 21st century city.
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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2006, 09:17:34 AM »
port stanley always makes me laugh because of its proposed lake erie ferry endpoint that never seems to get off the ground

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2006, 10:33:21 AM »
Baby steps... I wonder how they can say that a wind turbine would conflict with the group plan, but Browns Stadium doesn't...wtf?

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2006, 02:19:04 PM »
Great to hear that there will be some true innovation occuring around the turbine.  I saw it last night, and it looks great, too.  I can't wait to see more dotting our landscape.  I've even warmed up to the idea of putting them in the lake.

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2006, 12:42:35 AM »
I've warmed up as well to putting them along the lake. Originally I didn't see the value in the statement it could create, but now I feel it would add a lot of value from a statement standpoint.

(BTW I don't know if my posts tonight have made much sense, because since I've finished with exams I have been drinking pretty steadily/heavily).
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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2006, 10:57:09 AM »
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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2006, 08:31:13 PM »
awesome!  I still haven't passed the site since it was put up...can't wait!

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #67 on: May 07, 2006, 10:52:33 AM »
As this turbine at the GLSC grows closer to completion, has anyone heard what the public art component of this project might be? I know that Cleveland Public Art had a competition (mentioned earlier in this thread, I think), but I never heard about a selection or saw any renderings from the winner. Just wondering...

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #68 on: May 07, 2006, 02:14:17 PM »
wow i just seen it, its much bigger than i thought itd be

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #69 on: May 08, 2006, 06:36:26 AM »
Baby steps... I wonder how they can say that a wind turbine would conflict with the group plan, but Browns Stadium doesn't...wtf?


Well, walking into work this morning across Mall B, it's pretty obvious.  The sightlines on either side of the Malls extend all the way out to the lake.  If you extend the edges of the Malls, the Browns stadium sits on the western edge, while the new turbine site on the eastern edge.  I think they didn't want anything in between these imaginary lines, interrupting the beautiful water view.

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #70 on: May 09, 2006, 08:57:27 AM »
^anything like a honkin huge stack of ORANGE stadium seating?  I know...a gripe for another thread...

To make up for it, I'll go by the site today and take a few pics!

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #71 on: May 24, 2006, 09:31:24 AM »
OK, so I took a couple weeks to get over there...




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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #72 on: May 24, 2006, 03:27:25 PM »
^ It blends in really well against the Rock Hall and Science Center.  They should add a few more. :)

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #73 on: May 24, 2006, 05:26:44 PM »
Apparently the "go ahead" for the turbine to actually turn on will be the morning of June 9th ... unfortunately, a day I'll be at Cedar Point!

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #74 on: June 08, 2006, 02:59:40 PM »
Details are now on the GLSC website ... check out:

http://www.glsc.org/visit/upcoming.php?id=298

...if you can stand the horribly annoying music!

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #75 on: June 08, 2006, 03:06:28 PM »
Details are now on the GLSC website ... check out:

http://www.glsc.org/visit/upcoming.php?id=298

...if you can stand the horribly annoying music!

My nephew and I love that music!   :-P

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #76 on: June 08, 2006, 09:06:52 PM »
"That's the No. 1 problem we face today in getting this industry started," Musial said. "Visual pollution is preventing the country from embracing them."

I never got this argument about visual pollution. Yes, they are big towers with spinning blades on them, but does placing them on some grassy hill in the middle of the country side really foul up the visual aesthetic that badly? If it does, keep walking. I'm sure there's an identical grassy hill or two on the other side of the one with the turbine. Turbines are just cool to me. I'd personally be thrilled if they planted one in my neighborhood. I'm not suggesting they stick one on top of Mt. Rushmore, but there's plenty of places where the integrity of the visual fabric could survive a few turbines.

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #77 on: June 08, 2006, 09:16:48 PM »
"My nephew and I love that music!"

No offense but do you and he suffer from some sort of disorder? Maybe I-love-minimalist-casio-keyboard-crap-itis? Whatever the web designer was drinking or smoking when they decided "yeah! this music's PERFECT!", I want some!  :drunk:

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #78 on: June 08, 2006, 09:37:50 PM »
I never got this argument about visual pollution.

Me neither.

One thing also surprises me is how few people know what the hell a wind turbine is.

When they ask what a wind turbine is, I reply "It's just a turbine driven by the wind."

What's a turbine? they ask.

Um, OK, a turbine is like a motor, but instead of using energy, it generates it. The more accurate description is that it's a rotary machine that captures the kinetic energy of a liquid or gas (like water or air). I guess no one knows what a sawmill or a windmill is anymore (or a hydroelectric power plant for crying out loud). Stop watching American Idol, OK folks? And switch over to freakin' the Discovery Channel  :-(
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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #79 on: June 08, 2006, 09:57:11 PM »
"Stop watching American Idol, OK folks? And switch over to freakin' the Discovery Channel"

Sorry, I'm devoted to America's Next Top Model (FAR more redeeming than American Idol, imho) but even I know what a turbine is (and does), and how a windmill functions, thankyouverymuch.

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #80 on: June 08, 2006, 10:11:36 PM »
Don't apologize. If someone can walk and chew gum at the same time, way to go!
America will never be destroyed from the outside. -- Abraham Lincoln.

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #81 on: June 11, 2006, 07:51:44 AM »
Saw the turbine spinning for the first time yesterday. It's cooler than I thought! I was suprised  by how far away you can see it from coming to the city from east side on I-90. I think I had just past East 55th when I saw it spinning.

Now I want more! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #82 on: June 11, 2006, 08:49:09 AM »
"My nephew and I love that music!"

No offense but do you and he suffer from some sort of disorder? Maybe I-love-minimalist-casio-keyboard-crap-itis? Whatever the web designer was drinking or smoking when they decided "yeah! this music's PERFECT!", I want some!  :drunk:

We love it in an off beat sort of way.  I mean its so annoying....you can't help but remember it!  Besides he's only ten.  He loves the GLSC...for now.  Its only a matter of time before he "discovers" girls   :|  like his older brother.


Stop watching American Idol, OK folks? And switch over to freakin' the Discovery Channel  :-(

The discovery channel is very very cool but TLC and HGTV are cool channels as well.   I love AI...Simon is my hero!  However, it's all about Gordon Ramsay from "hell's kitchen" on Fox, he's got to be the evilest bitch on the planet - love him. 

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #83 on: July 17, 2006, 09:52:39 AM »
Cleveland Public Art put out a press release last week regarding the art component for the wind turbine. I am dissappointed.
you can read about it here:
http://clevelandplanner.blogspot.com/2006/07/windworks-is-coming-to-science-center.html


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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #84 on: July 17, 2006, 10:00:12 AM »
on a side note..could someone please powerwash the GL Science Center's IMAX exterior? 

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #85 on: August 08, 2006, 08:53:46 AM »
From Crain's:

Wind turbines top task force agenda

By JAY MILLER

6:00 am, August 7, 2006

Cuyahoga County commissioners plan to unveil this week a regional energy task force that will investigate alternative energy sources.

Commissioner Tim Hagan said the task force’s first order of business would be to investigate putting wind turbines in Lake Erie.

Mr. Hagan said several private companies have expressed an interest in building a wind farm but that first a variety of legal issues must be sorted out. County Prosecutor Bill Mason will lead the task force.

Mr. Hagan said the task force also will look into purchasing hybrid vehicles for the county.

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« Reply #86 on: August 08, 2006, 09:29:06 AM »
Great find, Mister Good Day! I really think this is a step in the right direction; hopefully, this taskforce will have some teeth and actually address alternative energy issues. Anyone know who all is serving on it?

In a semi-related note, I recently attended a city branding session at a national arts conference. One of the panel participants presented on how Milwaukee civic leaders had worked to establish a city logo. The group ultimately chose the rather striking wings on top of the Milwaukee Museum of Art. They also worked to make sure that those wings showed up all over the damn place:  on prominent websites, in national ad campaigns (in the background of an Accura ad, for example), and in the communications of major players like their CVB. It got me thinking about what Cleveland's single identifier would be; I can't help but think that the wind turbine, given its novelty in an urban setting, simple design and its positive "green" spin would be the best choice. I certainly think it would be in line with efforts to promote Cleveland's attention toward a new economy. Dunno ... think I just have a little graphic design fever this morning.

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« Reply #87 on: August 08, 2006, 09:38:22 AM »
Is this what you're talking about?

(maybe we should start a city branding thread...)

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« Reply #88 on: August 08, 2006, 09:43:30 AM »
Yep. But it's showing up in tourist-oriented websites all over the place, thanks to their concerted efforts. Here's another: http://www.milwaukee.org/.

I'm all about a city branding thread ... Will finally give me a chance to design a spec logo for Cleveland.  :-D

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Re: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments
« Reply #89 on: August 08, 2006, 02:42:19 PM »
how about.."CLEVELAND...at least we aren't Buffalo"   :lol: