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Offline jmecklenborg

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #150 on: January 24, 2007, 04:38:15 PM »
^Or the name of the "fancy" restaurant on a cheap cruise ship. 

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #151 on: February 28, 2007, 08:59:38 PM »
Go to GBBN's website and check out the proposal that Towne Properties/Neyer/North American Properties put together with GBBN.  It is light years better than that Corporex POS, check out the video it shows it best.  I know it is all concept, but it looks like they put a hell of a lot more thought into it than Corporex did.

http://www.gbbn.com/Portfolio/Detail/Newport_Housing_Site_Redevelopment/
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Offline UncleRando

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #152 on: February 28, 2007, 09:16:32 PM »
WOW....that is light years ahead of what Corporex threw out there!!!  I could support a project like this...just don't give me some Le Coborsier crap with towers surrounded by parks; we've moved past that stuff.  This is a much better proposal.  The scale is much more respectful of the pedestrian, and the context surrounding the project.  This could be worked into the existing urban context in Newport.

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #153 on: February 28, 2007, 09:29:45 PM »
Yes, much better! Much less Robert Taylor Homes-ish.

Now, if they could get themselves a better webmaster...

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #154 on: February 28, 2007, 09:40:14 PM »
BTW, I REALLY like that 'Newport Commons' feature in the plan...that is a great idea and would really help to tie the project in with the rest of Newport.  Hopefully this design prevails over the other crap Corporex came up with.

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #155 on: March 01, 2007, 06:42:56 AM »
The fountain/roundabout space would be really unique for the area.

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #156 on: March 01, 2007, 12:44:46 PM »
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fountain/roundabout space would be really unique for the area.
  I don't know, that may be the first roundybout in the state of KY. Can you imagine all the puzzled faces? :-D

Edit:  http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061226/NEWS0102/612260351/1008/NEWS01

Kentucky doesn't have any true modern roundabouts, though several intersections have similar devices, said Michael Hesse, a project manager with DLZ of Frankfort, which provides architectural, engineering and environmental services
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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #157 on: March 01, 2007, 01:05:19 PM »
seems slightly more realistic

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #158 on: March 14, 2007, 07:17:45 AM »
I just can't believe it...the terrible Ovation plan gets the A-Ok, but the reasonable and much more feasible Levee expansion is in 'trouble'!?!?!?  What are they smoking down their in Frankfort??

Mixed results for Newport
Ovation bill OK; Levee tax break in trouble
BY PATRICK CROWLEY | PCROWLEY@NKY.COM
March 14, 2007

FRANKFORT - Legislation affecting as much as $1.1 billion in Newport riverfront development will be on the agenda when lawmakers return to Frankfort in two weeks.

Both bills provide tax incentives to developers, but the two pieces of legislation could be headed for different fates.

http://news.nky.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20070314/NEWS0103/703140385
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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #159 on: March 19, 2007, 03:05:29 PM »
My wife and I jogged past this yesterday, and I hadn't noticed before that it's cleared - like, cleared-cleared - big flat field...and I don't know that anyone will miss the buildings they razed, but I was wondering, does anyone know what the area looked like before they built the projects on it?  Seems like with the gorgeous housing just across the Licking, there may be a tragic tale there for the telling...

Oh, and while I can't imagine it'll end up as part of the project, doesn't it look like they're planning for a new footbridge right at the mouth of the Licking?  Which would absolutely rock, by the way, but I'm a huge fan of bridges!



(...if folks have already mentioned this, I missed it...sorry!)

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #160 on: March 19, 2007, 03:22:21 PM »
^ no, thx for reposting that rv. i dk what to think at first glance, it's pretty retro-corbusian.

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #161 on: March 19, 2007, 03:23:26 PM »
It was the ghetto..lol I just drove past it this afternoon.

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #162 on: March 19, 2007, 03:37:37 PM »
It was the ghetto before it was the projects?  I guess that makes sense - I can't imagine someone letting a Millionaire's Row get ripped down for projects - but one never knows...well, plus there had to be major dislocation when the levee when in...

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #163 on: March 19, 2007, 05:42:06 PM »
^ no, thx for reposting that rv. i dk what to think at first glance, it's pretty retro-corbusian.

Right on, but unfortunately it is described in this way...this project stinks!

Oh, and while I can't imagine it'll end up as part of the project, doesn't it look like they're planning for a new footbridge right at the mouth of the Licking?  Which would absolutely rock, by the way, but I'm a huge fan of bridges!

Yes I have heard that Covington and Newport have been working on such a pedestrian bridge.  Plus if you notice in the GBBN renderings posted earlier you can actually see a pedestrian bridge within the images.

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #164 on: March 23, 2007, 07:29:25 AM »
TIF could bring an Ovation
Bill that may help finance project reaches Ky. governor's desk
BY LAURA BAVERMAN | LBAVERMAN@BIZJOURNALS.COM
March 23, 2007

NEWPORT - A tax increment financing bill before the governor of Kentucky could mean more than $100 million in state financing for the Corporex Cos. Ovation project in Newport - and the start of construction before year's end.

On March 12, House and Senate members passed a bill that defines four structures of TIF, a public financing method that pays for public improvements like parking garages, roadways and public spaces through taxes the state expects to receive once a site has reached its full value. The "signature" TIF would cover up to 100 percent of the cost of public infrastructure for projects surpassing $200 million in the state.

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2007/03/26/story4.html
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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #165 on: March 26, 2007, 01:17:31 PM »
Tax breaks to help Ovation
March 26, 2007 | CINCINNATI POST

NEWPORT - Kentucky state Rep. Dennis Keene says tax breaks signed into law Friday by Gov. Ernie Fletcher will not only help launch the Ovation project, but will benefit Newport and all of Northern Kentucky.

"It puts a solid footprint into the evolution of the whole South Bank partnership from Latonia to Dayton," said Keene, D-Wilder. "It's a tremendous center point of that dream.

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070326/NEWS01/703260373
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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #166 on: April 30, 2007, 05:31:46 PM »
Any new updates on this rando?  has a start date been set?  is the land cleared?  I haven't heard anything about this for awhile, hopefully its not dead

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« Reply #167 on: April 30, 2007, 05:38:41 PM »
I think that the land has been cleared for some time, but that has been planed for awhile...this project is just taking advantage of that.  I have heard that Bill Butler would like to start before the end of the year, but I HIGHLY doubt that it will even come close to that!

I personally find this project to be a stretch, but nothing has yet confirmed my thoughts.  Its a wait and see thing...these types of projects just take time (that is if you want to get it done right).  And it certainly won't help that The Banks will be started this year...thus gobbling up some of the residential market that Ovation will be after.  There are only soo many people to go around.

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #168 on: April 30, 2007, 06:53:26 PM »
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I have heard that Bill Butler would like to start before the end of the year, but I HIGHLY doubt that it will even come close to that!

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #169 on: May 01, 2007, 12:04:21 PM »
Interesting....I think Northern Kentucky might soon have the tallest building in the greater cincinnati area...I could see them try to one up cincinnati

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #170 on: May 01, 2007, 01:04:18 PM »
good luck to them, if it starts a highest building race then that wouldn't be the worst thing. 

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #171 on: May 01, 2007, 01:44:24 PM »
^we already have a beautiful skyline.  While I dont mind more, bigger buildings, I would much rather see a focus on neighborhood development as opposed to these signature developments that stand in obvious contrast to their surroundings and dont fit in.  I think a 'buildings race' would certainly create the latter, more negative effect. 

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« Reply #172 on: May 01, 2007, 10:04:36 PM »
Interesting....I think Northern Kentucky might soon have the tallest building in the greater cincinnati area...I could see them try to one up cincinnati

I'm sorry, but I don't believe there is ANYTHING on the boards for Nky in terms of skyscrapers.  Sure there are some high rises, but I don't foresee a new tallest in Nky anytime soon!  I think I remember the last time Nky proposed a new tall for the metro...hmmm remember that Millennium Tower thingee that was proposed next to the Bell in Newport?  Don't think about it for too long though...it kind of tarnishes that image of nothing goes wrong in Nky and that the grass is greener type of thing.

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #173 on: May 01, 2007, 10:51:05 PM »
Interesting....I think Northern Kentucky might soon have the tallest building in the greater cincinnati area...I could see them try to one up cincinnati

That's insane ... lol!

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« Reply #174 on: May 01, 2007, 11:20:16 PM »
Seriously...they definitely want to showcase themselves.  Remember, Northern Kentucky is one of the metro's fastest growing areas.  either way, it wouldn't be a bad thing in the area. 

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« Reply #175 on: May 02, 2007, 08:01:20 AM »
Remember, Northern Kentucky is one of the metro's fastest growing areas.  either way, it wouldn't be a bad thing in the area. 

Can you give us a few links for this info?

... and remember growth does not equal highrise/skyscraper construction. They aren't dependent on each other.

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« Reply #176 on: May 02, 2007, 09:39:53 AM »

Can you give us a few links for this info?

... and remember growth does not equal highrise/skyscraper construction. They aren't dependent on each other.
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Agreed.  but look at the location.  they are using cincinnati's skyline to their advantage.  they have a great entertainment scene.  its on the river.  High Rise Condominiums are the future.  obviously i'm not saying it with 100% certainty.  I'm just speculating.  I apologize for getting everyone upset, i'm just stating my opinion.  Lets focus on the ovation for now
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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #177 on: May 02, 2007, 12:13:00 PM »
Aside from NOTL what else does Nky boast in terms of entertainment/nightlife.  Sure there are a few places here or there, but it really is not much different from the Ohio side of the River.  Not to mention...I went down to NOTL this afternoon, and my gosh is it dead during the day!  I also noticed that about half of the retail space is vacant!!!  I could definitely see some hard times ahead for NOTL once The Banks starts to roll in.

Oh, and as for Ovation...I don't believe there is any significant entertainment/retail portion in the proposal.  Its mostly office and residential as per my understanding.

My point is that Nky gets a lot of positive press...some warranted some not, go down to NOTL during the day and compare it to downtown Cincy during the day....BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #178 on: May 02, 2007, 12:31:41 PM »
^mainstrasse

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Re: Newport, KY: Ovation
« Reply #179 on: May 02, 2007, 04:41:03 PM »
^ Rednecks