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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1740 on: August 10, 2018, 05:10:49 PM »
^ I know, I know. I always associate ATL with Atlanta too, which is probably why when I see ATX, I naturally think ATL.  When I think Austin, I think AUS would be more fitting or even ATN.

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1741 on: August 11, 2018, 12:57:17 PM »
Middle-of-the-road recap of PSV's stadium non-vote in Austin from the Dispatch's Crew beat reporter:

http://www.thisweeknews.com/sports/20180810/crew-sc--austin-council-tables-stadium-vote-until-aug-15




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« Reply #1742 on: August 11, 2018, 12:58:04 PM »
PSV's disastrous performance in ATX council, the return of J9, and the hopeful return of Pipa after missing the last two games (he hasn't played since 7/14) has me geeked up for tonight's match against Houston.  Glory to Columbus!

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« Reply #1743 on: August 11, 2018, 09:31:09 PM »
The Airport reference is a v liberal move. PDX makes no sense - just like 80% of Portland's residents.

oh no they dinnit. my beloved bronx would umm, like to have a moment with those richy portlanders.  ::)



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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1744 on: August 12, 2018, 08:26:14 PM »
GAME #24:  https://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2018-08-11-columbus-crew-sc-vs-houston-dynamo/recap

https://www.massivereport.com/2018/8/11/17679842/columbus-crew-sc-steal-three-points-with-another-late-winner-mls-2018


Last night's match felt like another "must-win" game for the Crew.  This was the sole home game in Columbus for August and everything was in the Crew's favor leading up to Saturday night: Coming off a bye week; getting Higuain back in the lineup and adding Meram to the team; and riding a two-game winning streak.  While everything was going against Houston in the run-up: Losing three key players and their head coach to red card ejections in the previous weekend's MLS game; playing a 120+ minute Open Cup game on Wednesday; and riding a three-game losing streak.

Given Houston's depleted lineup, it was no surprise to see them employ a five-man back-line and a "park the bus" strategy.  Columbus, employing 3G's possess-and-attack strategy was fine with this - and racked up the possession numbers.  However, the Crew had difficulty breaking down Houston's defensive shell.  As the game wore into the second half, it was Houston that started to get some good counter opportunities - leading to some dazzling Steffen saves in the 59th minute and 72nd minute to keep the game at 0-0.

Meram came off the bench in the 60th minute and injected some life to the Crew attack.  But it was a 75th minute sub of Mullins for Higuain that helps crack the Houston shell.  Mullins paired with Zardes for a second forward striker to eventually break down the three central defenders of Houston.  Although it didn't come until the 91st minute(!)

In the first minute of stoppage time, Artur started a break with a pass to Afful on the right sideline.  Afful's shot an arching pass toward both strikers running toward the Houston goal.  The pass went over Mullins' head (who was in an offside position) to Zardes (who was onside).  Zardes let the ball bounce ahead of him as he found himself past the final defender with only the Houston keeper to beat.  Zardes cooly tapped a finish past the keeper to give the Cardiac Crew a 1-0 victory!

The win sends Columbus to a 11-7-6 record in a fourth place cocoon in the Eastern Conference.  The Crew heads to ATL next Sunday at 4PM to face Atlanta United coming off a bye week.  Atlanta United has a 14-4-6 record - best in the Eastern Conference and the entire league.
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1745 on: August 13, 2018, 10:23:47 AM »
Despite the success of #SaveTheCrew and the blunders of PSV in Austin, I don't know how many more Crew home games we'll get to enjoy in Columbus.  Whatever happens, I am going to savor these remaining 2018 games and hope for more in the coming seasons.  Fortunately, I'm not the only one savoring these home games.  Here are few photos of Saturday's 1-0 win from the larger photo-threads linked below:

https://www.massivereport.com/2018/8/12/17680790/gallery-columbus-crew-sc-vs-houston-dynamo

https://www.columbusunderground.com/photos-columbus-crew-scs-win-against-houston-dynamo-me1


From twitter: The 2018 tifo's have had an edge to them (for good reason):


Some of the commentary was via customized team jerseys:


More commentary via tifo - this one a variation of the "Respect Your Roots" message to MLS:


This tifo was one from a happier season that got updated for the return of J9:


J9 approves!


As for the game, if you watched the video in the game #24 recap post and read my recap, you'd know that Gyasi Zardes won it for the Crew with this game-winning shot in the 91st minute:


Zardes enjoying the game-winning shot:


The Nordecke enjoying the game-winning shot:
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« Reply #1746 on: August 14, 2018, 07:22:53 PM »
Like I said previously, whatever happens in Austin tomorrow, I am going to enjoy these remaining 2018 Crew games and hope for more in the coming seasons.  And I'm not the only one enjoying these remaining home games.  Mapfre Stadium reported nearly 16,000 for last weekend's match.  This is down from prior seasons - but it's amazing that the Crew are drawing as well as they are.

Not only have some fans refused to spend one more dollar on an owner that wants to move the Crew to Austin, which accounts for this season's attendance drop.  But throughout Precourt's ownership, many have noticed a hollowing out of perks and promotions that were once common.  And after the October 2017 announcement, the Precourt penny-pinching has reached absurd levels in this 2018 season.  This was a tweet from Saturday's game:



If you go to the original tweet - https://twitter.com/mtgannon1/status/1028426925491015681 - you'll see multiple replies about other unacceptable sub-standard stadium conditions at Saturday's game.

And there's this Precourt pettiness from Saturday in this tweet below.  It shows the kids practice field located just outside the stadium.  It's been there for years (pre-dating Precourt's ownership BTW).  And it allows kids to kick the ball, play around and just have fun.  In previous years, the kids could kick the ball into a couple of soccer nets.  For the 2018 season, the nets were removed and replaced with trash cans!



Earlier in May 2018, there were more serious concerns with Precourt's lack of maintenance of Mapfre Stadium.  This is a tweet reported in https://www.columbusnavigator.com/anthony-precourt-appears-to-be-letting-mapfre-stadium-fall-apart/









Also in May, an inspection of food concession stands in Mapfre Stadium revealed a list of violations including issues with drainage and the presence of mouse droppings inside one of the kitchens.  Columbus Public Health conducted inspections on nine concession stands and found violations at all but one of them.

According to the Health Department report, some violations were corrected at the time of the inspection, while other infractions were given a comply-by day of May 23 (prior to the next home game).  Local media did report that all health code violations were complied by that date.  Because fines cost money and Precourt doesn't want to spend any more money on Mapfre than he has too - not out of any concern about sickening fans or their children.

Bathrooms conditions have also been a 2018 concern as well.  Below is a picture of a bathroom stall nearly off its hinges from Precourt's Prioritized Neglect.  It's the only sub-standard bathroom condition that I will post here - because the rest are more disgusting:



In that same article about 'Precourt's Prioritized Neglect' at https://www.patreon.com/posts/19486429, the author showed this photo of one of the four light towers at Mapfre.  There are burned-out bulbs in at least 1/3 of the light fixtures.  This was typical of all four light towers:



Combine all of the above with numerous other sub-standard stadium conditions like loose railings, loose seats and trash not being picked up in a timely manner along with aisles and concourses not being kept clean - and you get the picture of the what Crew fans have had to endure in 2018 from absentee owner Anthony Precourt.

-- Precourt's Prioritized Neglect:  https://www.patreon.com/posts/19486429

-- Anthony Precourt Appears To Be Letting Mapfre Stadium Fall Apart:  https://www.columbusnavigator.com/anthony-precourt-appears-to-be-letting-mapfre-stadium-fall-apart/

-- Absentee owner Anthony Precourt and MLS should be held accountable for the failing condition of Crew Stadium:  http://thecomeback.com/soccer/anthony-precourt-and-mls-should-be-held-accountable-for-crew-stadium.html
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1747 on: August 14, 2018, 07:48:50 PM »
On the eve of Austin's planned vote on Wednesday to approve some kind of agreement with PSV for a stadium deal (or agreement for a future agreement, or whatever) one of the Austin City Council members came to Columbus - on her own dime - to get a first-hand look at how Precourt does business.  As you can see from my previous post, it ain't pretty!

Here are a couple of twitter posts from two #SaveTheCrew leaders about this visit:

https://twitter.com/DegenerateTBone/status/1029412910492274689


https://twitter.com/Morgan_Hughes/status/1029397079494459392


I highly recommend viewing the Morgan Hughes thread about the visit.  It is a very human response to all the inhumanity that Precourt, PSV and MLS have directed toward Columbus and Crew fans over the past 10 months.
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1748 on: August 15, 2018, 03:08:37 PM »
From the Dispatch's Crew beat reporter, Andrew Erickson, at the Austin City Council:

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Two days shy of 10 months into its relocation efforts, PSV gets a 7-4 yes vote on its stadium term sheet with Austin.  City staff will now negotiate, execute final deal.  A huge step, to be clear.  Eyes now turn to the courtroom and to MLS HQ in NY.
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« Reply #1749 on: August 16, 2018, 07:44:08 PM »
From the Dispatch's Crew beat reporter, Andrew Erickson, at the Austin City Council:

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Two days shy of 10 months into its relocation efforts, PSV gets a 7-4 yes vote on its stadium term sheet with Austin.  City staff will now negotiate, execute final deal.  A huge step, to be clear.  Eyes now turn to the courtroom and to MLS HQ in NY.

Some more detailed reports on Austin's initial agreement with PSV:

-- http://www.thisweeknews.com/sports/20180815/councils-yes-vote-on-stadium-term-sheet-moves-crew-sc-closer-to-austin

-- https://www.massivereport.com/2018/8/16/17698096/austin-approves-precourt-sports-ventures-mckalla-place-term-sheet-mls-2018
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« Reply #1750 on: August 16, 2018, 07:45:03 PM »
For those of you who didn't watch that 4+ hour Austin City Council meeting yesterday, count yourself lucky.  I was reminded of a quote attributed to Otto von Bismarck:

"To retain respect for sausages and laws, one must not watch them in the making.  The making of laws like the making of sausages, is not a pretty sight."



And what happened in that Austin City Council meeting was some ugly sausage making.  The last thing you should do when hammering out an agreement (even if its an agreement to have further negotiations - as this one was) is to hammer it out in public with an 11-person committee!  But that's what Austin City Council did yesterday.  They ended up wading through at least 20 amendments to the initial term sheet presented at their Aug. 9 meeting.  Some of the discussion on the amendments was described as "going down the rabbit hole" or "having circular conversations".  Here's one example of that:



It got so bad that one of Austin council members actually tweeted this out during the meeting!


For the record, the tweet is showing an amendment to one of the proposed amendments, which was then amended, and then further amended!!!  But that's not all.  No, not even close.  This is a screenshot of President Pro Tem Tovo going over her amendments.  She had the most amendments of any council member - as you can see by all the post-it tabs!


For a while, it looked like all the amendments would bog down the meeting to the point that they would need another meeting to slog through the term sheet with PSV.  But the MVP of the meeting (for the MLS2ATX side) was Mayor Adler - who in Austin's government, chairs the city council meeting.  Adler patiently but methodically plowed through the blizzard of amendments.  Which is why the meeting that was scheduled for 2 hours ran 4+ hours.


But just as importantly, Mayor Adler acted as the main pro-PSV voice in the room - keeping lobbyist Richard Suttle (who badly blundered in the Aug. 9 meeting) away from the mic for most of the meeting - and kept Anthony Precourt completely away from the mic.  That got some council members previously on the fence over the pro-MLS2ATX side.


So, although it took much longer than planned, PSV & MLS2ATX got what they needed from this meeting.  Though not without some background "Keep Austin Weird"ness:


Still much better than this in the background of the Aug. 9 meeting:
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« Reply #1751 on: August 16, 2018, 07:45:32 PM »
I've said this before - but if this whole situation didn't hold the fate of the Columbus Crew in the balance, it would be entertaining to see the buffoonery displayed by PSV and MLS.  But of course, it does.  Something that Sean Kelly, filmmaker of the Save The Crew documentary, noted in this tweet during the Austin City Council meeting:



Ultimately, though this Aug. 15 council vote was a big win for PSV and MLS2ATX, it still isn't the end of the road for #SaveTheCrew.  The move to Austin still hasn't reached that "done deal" status yet.  From http://www.thisweeknews.com/sports/20180815/councils-yes-vote-on-stadium-term-sheet-moves-crew-sc-closer-to-austin:

The celebration in Austin started Wednesday, but the cloud of active litigation still hangs over the relocation efforts.  The focus now turns to Franklin County courtrooms.

The Columbus and Ohio lawsuit, filed in March, centers on PSV and MLS’ compliance with Ohio Revised Code 9.67, commonly referred to as the Art Modell Law, which requires sports owners receiving public benefit to provide six months’ notice and the opportunity for locals to purchase a team before moving.

Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine said in a statement Wednesday that the lawsuit will continue.  “Precourt Sports Ventures and Major League Soccer still have an obligation under Ohio law to provide notice and a reasonable opportunity for local investors to purchase the rights to keep the Crew in Columbus,” he said.

City Attorney Zach Klein said in a statement that the Modell Law provides the city of Columbus with “clear rights” in Ohio.  “As with any litigation, all options are on the table for us to ensure we can enforce those rights,” he said. “In the meantime, we look forward to making our argument in court in the coming weeks.”  A hearing on PSV and MLS’ motion to dismiss the lawsuit is scheduled for Sept. 4.



Also from http://www.thisweeknews.com/sports/20180815/councils-yes-vote-on-stadium-term-sheet-moves-crew-sc-closer-to-austin:

The Austin term sheet vote came as parties interested in purchasing the team in Columbus continue to organize and engage MLS.  Those individuals include Columbus Partnership CEO Alex Fischer, who is under a nondisclosure agreement and participating in a valuation of the team.

Fischer has said Columbus investors are interested only in purchasing the current iteration of the team as opposed to alternatives once the team leaves.  He said that viewpoint does not change with Wednesday’s vote.

“We’ll keep the march on here,” Fischer said.  “Obviously Anthony’s had a plan to move the team for many years, and he seems damned and determined to do that regardless of the obstacles, and we’re gonna stay focused on what we can control with a group of investors here in our city.”



And from https://www.massivereport.com/2018/8/16/17698096/austin-approves-precourt-sports-ventures-mckalla-place-term-sheet-mls-2018:

In Austin, there is a looming threat of legal action regarding the City’s need to fully realize the cost put into McKalla Place by the Austin Water Utility (nearly $20 million) and the lack of a competitive bidding process for the sale of the land.  Attorney Bill Aleshire, an Austin lawyer specializing in open government law, sent the City of Austin a demand letter in June articulating his claim should the City Council agree to a land use deal with PSV.

Political activists have also threatened to force an election on the agreement as soon as May of 2019.  If this vote is granted, PSV’s deal will hit yet another roadblock.

PSV also has a lot of work to do before it can get down to the intricate details of moving the Crew in time for the 2019 season.  The Austin City Manger has been authorized to negotiate and execute a stadium deal with PSV by October of 2018, but that requires actually negotiating a deal by then.  There are many vague details in the term sheet that must be fully ironed out within the next two months.



Which is why leaders of #SaveTheCrew are saying this:




I hope they are correct.  Oh how I hope they are.  But until this "done deal" is actually a done deal - SaveTheCrew.
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1752 on: Yesterday at 04:26:27 AM »
I will miss the crew. I hope they will be saved. It would have been a fun interstate rivalry with FCC traveling to Mapfre/columbus fans traveling down to OTR...now Chicago (in a suburban stadium no less that's a nightmare to get to), maybe Nashville (if they even approve the stadium deal with the fairgrounds) are the only close-ish nearby away options for traveling fans? Kinda sucks tbh, and doesn't benefit the league whatsoever. Sad. 

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« Reply #1753 on: Yesterday at 09:01:04 AM »
After what happened Wednesday, while the ATX deal is not completely done or official, I do think that the odds of the Crew staying are looking less and less each day.

The Modell rule is a longshot at best and the best that would likely come from it is not necessarily saying the team cant move because of the law but just acting as an additional roadblock to clear which could ultimately frustrate the ownership into selling.

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« Reply #1754 on: Yesterday at 10:36:20 AM »
I hope they are correct.  Oh how I hope they are.  But until this "done deal" is actually a done deal - SaveTheCrew.

I'm listening to ACES Radio right now and like you, hope their optimism is well founded. The STC folks have a way about them, though, and I doubt they'd not sound positive if they didn't know something was up.

I just wish we had some insight into what "saving" the team looks like. The silence from the league, not just regarding the Crew, but the Austin deal as well, is deafening.

In the end, if they let Precourt go to Austin, but also keep The Crew in Columbus as a new franchise assuming the old club's history with new owners, that's going to change the narrative on the whole expansion process.

Does Sacramento get left out again? How does San Antonio factor into this?

It still blows my mind that they're willing to screw over San Antonio's massive ownership group (and their plans) to keep Anthony Precourt around and let him go to Austin.

@Brutus_buckeye, I don't think anyone believes that the Model Law will hold, but rather, it's what it could do in court that creates the issue. During a case, certain things could come out that MLS probably wouldn't want the rest of the world to know. Not to mention, the other leagues are certainly taking a keen interest in this.