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Re: Cincinnati: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #3210 on: January 19, 2018, 05:54:26 PM »
Though I wish this spot was a tower, I'm glad to see something getting built there. Those parking lots that are catty corner to one another kill the flow of Piatt Park which is one of my favorite locations Downtown. Wonder when they plan to get started with something beyond a quick idea sketch.

Yeah, it'd be nice for a tower... but I'm happy with 6 stories in this location. The Groton building just to the south is 7 stories. The beautiful LPK building to the east is 8 stories. 6 stories won't look too appropriate in this block, I think.

Yeah, I think 6 stories will work just fine here. I had visions of something in the 15-20 story range which would be glassy and offer a modern counterpart to the area, but I get that the economics of construction change pretty dramatically above 6 stories and you can no longer use wood construction on a concrete base which this building will likely be.

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« Reply #3211 on: January 19, 2018, 06:55:16 PM »
This was the old Blue Wisp parking lot.  Back when the Blue Wisp was the best thing downtown. 
Back in the 90's, wasn't the Blue Wisp in the basement of the LPK building? Is there anything using that basement space now?

Yeah they lost the space because one of the building's tenants wanted the basement space for storage.  The sidewalk entrance was replaced by an ATM machine. 

That place was fantastic.  It was pretty intimidating the first time you went there because you had to walk down a staircase and the whole place would turn and look at you.  There was a large pillar that blocked the view of the band from much of the room and there was a loud air conditioner that would kick on during quiet parts in the songs.  There was still a rotary dial pay phone back by the bathrooms until they closed it down in 2002 or 2003. 





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« Reply #3212 on: January 19, 2018, 07:43:37 PM »
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Though I wish this spot was a tower, I'm glad to see something getting built there. Those parking lots that are catty corner to one another kill the flow of Piatt Park which is one of my favorite locations Downtown. Wonder when they plan to get started with something beyond a quick idea sketch.

I was working in conjunction with Towne Properties at the time the Groton Bldg on the north side of Piatt Park was developed.  We tried everything to get the owner of the lot at the NW corner of Race and Garfield Place to sell, offered way more than appraised value, and he still wouldn't sell.  He asked for some crazy amount, thinking the City/Towne would agree to it if he held the larger development hostage, but they didn't and he was stuck with a small little parcel.

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« Reply #3213 on: January 19, 2018, 08:32:25 PM »
That's interesting, thanks for the story. There are so many examples throughout history of the people holding out thinking the bigger developer will just succumb to their ridiculous demands and buy them out but then they don't and they're stuck with something nobody wants and isn't that useful.

Most famous example is the building that Macy's built around for their Herald Square flagship store in Manhattan. Tiny three story building on the corner held out and Macy's basically said, "fine then" and built around it. They finished and that corner was basically worthless because nobody wanted it and Macy's wound up buying it for less than they originally offered and then covered it with a billboard.

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« Reply #3214 on: January 19, 2018, 11:29:47 PM »
My senior architecture thesis site was the northwest corner of Garfield and Race, including the little building at 807/809 Race.  It was an attempt to incorporate that smaller building into something larger, while also maintaining the alley (bridging across it).  It's an ok plot of land, and I was even able to squeeze in underground parking, but only just.  The design itself ended up being an aesthetic disaster, due in no small part to constantly butting heads with my professor, but the functional and urbanistic aspects of it were sound at the very least.  It also ended up being 7 stories, which is not a bad ratio for such a site.  Either way, it's such a nice street that having any surface parking is criminal, so it's great to hear something is finally happening. 

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« Reply #3215 on: February 15, 2018, 11:55:06 AM »
West Fourth Group recently purchased 223 W 4th ( https://goo.gl/maps/to3pqKD95tT2 ). The address listed for West Fourth Group is 4675 CORNELL RD SUITE 100 CINCINNATI OH 45241 which is the same address as trustaff. It is kind of an odd shape with small floor plates for an office building and trustaff recently signed a 10 year lease at their current office ( https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2015/07/23/exclusive-fast-growing-staffing-company-moving.html )... so I am curious as to what their plan is.

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« Reply #3216 on: February 16, 2018, 01:38:21 AM »
Woman-owned firm to develop downtown condo project

A growing woman-owned real estate company plans to build a condominium project in downtown Cincinnati.

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/15/exclusive-woman-owned-firm-to-develop-downtown.html

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« Reply #3217 on: February 22, 2018, 02:42:52 PM »
EXCLUSIVE: Luxury townhomes, condos coming to downtown Cincinnati
By Tom Demeropolis  – Senior Staff Reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier
Feb 22, 2018, 10:58am EST Updated 2 hours ago


A real estate development and construction company has started work on luxury townhomes and condominiums in downtown Cincinnati.

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/22/exclusive-luxury-townhomes-condos-coming-to.html

NW corner of 4th and Plum, six residential condos, street level commercial condo and a parking garage.  Three new two story townhomes will be built above the existing building at 413-417 Plum St.

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« Reply #3218 on: February 22, 2018, 09:44:25 PM »
^That plan has been in the works for several years now... not sure what caused the delay.

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« Reply #3219 on: February 23, 2018, 04:04:31 PM »
Peek inside Kenwood’s newest upscale apartments



Just weeks after its grand opening, one of the newest upscale apartment communities in Greater Cincinnati is almost fully leased.

The Bluffs are an expansion of the Kenwood by Senior Star, one of the largest retirement communities in Greater Cincinnati located at 5435 Kenwood Road in Madisonville. Twenty-two of its 24 units have already been leased and most the residents have moved in to their new homes.

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/23/peek-inside-kenwood-s-newest-upscale-apartments.html
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« Reply #3220 on: February 23, 2018, 07:26:17 PM »
I'm not an architect, but that thing is hideous.

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« Reply #3221 on: February 23, 2018, 09:23:12 PM »
I am an architect and that thing is hideous.


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« Reply #3223 on: February 28, 2018, 03:45:21 PM »
Avril-Bleh has announced on Facebook that they are closing their sandwich shop on Court Street, although the butcher shop (which they say is still growing) will continue to operate.

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« Reply #3224 on: March 01, 2018, 06:08:15 PM »
Towne Properties investing millions into its downtown apartments

Towne Properties is in the midst of a refresh of four apartment buildings in downtown Cincinnati.

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/03/01/exclusive-towne-properties-investing-millions-into.html

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« Reply #3225 on: March 06, 2018, 01:34:08 PM »
The details of Cincinnati's bid for Amazon HQ2 are now available. So now we can all dream about an alternate reality where Amazon picked Cincinnati and we got:

  • The Banks completed
  • FWW capped with new buildings
  • All of the parking lots on Third Street (3 1/2 blocks worth) replaced by new buildings
  • Fourth and Race replaced with a new Amazon tower
  • Riverfront Transit Center opened with BRT route to the airport, and potentially, other BRT routes and the Oasis commuter rail line
  • Streetcar expanded to Newport
  • A commitment to the city's bike master plan
  • Nearly $3.8 billion in new revenue for Cincinnati Public Schools over the next 30 years

In terms of tax incentives, it wasn't anything too crazy, as it was the standard tax incentive package that was offered to GE, with the exception that Amazon would've been offered a refundable tax credit instead of a non-refundable one. (Tax credits are never offered on the portion of the property tax that goes to CPS, hence, $3.8 billion in new revenue for them.)

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« Reply #3226 on: March 06, 2018, 02:44:17 PM »
Hopefully some of these things can go from ideas to action items. "A commitment to the city's bike master plan" for instance costs nothing, it's just the will to do it. And using the Riverfront Transit center for BRT to the airport and around town is a good idea too that wouldn't cost hardly anything compared to other transit projects. Why don't we do these things now, so when the next big bid for a company comes along we can point at real successes and not potential ideas?

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« Reply #3227 on: March 06, 2018, 03:09:20 PM »
Because the administration doesn't want to.  Just like making the streetcar work.  This is 100% about Cranley and his cronies.  Jim Coppock from the city engineering office told me point blank that the city is under no obligation to follow the bike plan if they don't want to.

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« Reply #3228 on: March 06, 2018, 03:16:20 PM »
The problem is that none of these things are a high priority for city, county, or regional leaders. The bicycle transportation plan has already been enacted but we are not actively implementing it because the mayor is opposed to adding more on-street bike lanes. Opening the RTC is something that gets discussed frequently on this board but I don't think it's on the radar of anyone at OKI, SORTA, or the City. I just don't know how we make any of the items a higher priority without a company like Amazon holding our feet to the fire.

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« Reply #3229 on: March 21, 2018, 11:59:16 AM »
Building permits were issued for a Taproom at 1632 Central Parkway (Urban Site's Film Center). It will be interesting if that is a small independent operation or an extension of a local or outside of the region brewery. Incidentally it is right across the street from Sam Adams' Brewery but they do not seem to be interested in opening taprooms at this point.

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« Reply #3230 on: March 22, 2018, 11:24:46 AM »
On the minutes for the most recent Downtown Residents Council meeting there is a note about the Provident Bank Building (7th/Vine) being turned into 160 apartments with work starting this summer. http://www.ilivedowntown.com/031318.pdf

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« Reply #3231 on: March 22, 2018, 12:17:35 PM »
On the minutes for the most recent Downtown Residents Council meeting there is a note about the Provident Bank Building (7th/Vine) being turned into 160 apartments with work starting this summer. http://www.ilivedowntown.com/031318.pdf
^Whoa! That's awesome. I love that building... and 160 apartments in the heart of downtown is great for the city!

I hope as part of the renovation, they replace the tinted plate-glass windows which really detract from the historic facade.

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« Reply #3232 on: March 22, 2018, 01:42:40 PM »
As long as they leave Haru and Madonna's alone. But seriously, that will be good to bring more residents closer to the core, I feel like a lot of the new apartments in the CBD have been on the edges.

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« Reply #3233 on: March 22, 2018, 01:44:55 PM »
Don't the developers have to have lease agreements with nearby parking lots?? No way people will be able to manage that on their own!

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« Reply #3234 on: March 28, 2018, 05:46:38 PM »
Developers plan $38 million renovation of historic downtown Cincinnati building



An Indianapolis-based real estate company is planning a $38 million conversion of a historic downtown Cincinnati office building into apartments.

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/03/28/exclusive-developers-plan-38-million-renovation-of.html
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« Reply #3235 on: March 30, 2018, 05:59:57 PM »
Big apartment building planned for Kenwood, directly across from the mall:
https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/sycamore-township/local-developer-proposes-building-90m-apartments-hotel-retail-space-near-kenwood-towne-centre

They acquired and are planning to tear down 21 homes.  Is this gentrification?

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« Reply #3237 on: March 30, 2018, 06:07:46 PM »
Is this gentrification?

They acquired and are planning to tear down 21 homes.  Is this gentrification?


Correction -- the structures are all small 1960s-era multi-families. 

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« Reply #3238 on: March 30, 2018, 06:23:42 PM »
This Kenwood project is key to the region’s top retail hub



Since the beginning of 2013, Capital Investment Group has acquired 20 properties totaling 6.7 acres along Kenwood Road, Happiness Way and Festive Court, spending more than $6.3 million.

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/03/30/this-kenwood-project-is-key-to-the-region-s-top.html
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« Reply #3239 on: March 30, 2018, 11:37:16 PM »
Whoa, Kenwood is going New Urbanism!?
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