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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #120 on: June 08, 2008, 11:33:04 AM »

I know it sucks, but sometimes these "quiet phases" are the ones in which the most progress is made... who has time for press releases and silly renderings when their nose is to the grindstone?!

No question.  Sometimes we the public needs some signal (or UO insider, hehe) who gives us confidence, in fact, these behind-the-scene things are happening... Unfortunately, we're too used to the scenariio that when projects go quiet, they're dead.

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #121 on: July 22, 2008, 04:42:31 AM »
Pics and PDF at the link.
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Long-awaited Uptown project will transform University Circle neighborhood

Posted by Michelle Jarboe July 21, 2008 23:21PM

Categories: Economic development, Impact, Real Estate News Impact, Real estate

Click on image to download PDF.A long-awaited wave of culture, homes, shopping and dining will start to flood the University Circle area next spring.

That's when Cleveland developers MRN Ltd. and Nathan Zaremba plan to break ground for hundreds of homes, perched atop stores and restaurants along Euclid Avenue, just east of Mayfield Road and Ford Drive.

Their buildings will sit at the center of the Uptown project, an investment of more than $200 million by developers, cultural institutions, Case Western Reserve University and advocacy group University Circle Inc.

More at
http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/07/_click_on_image_to.html




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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #122 on: July 22, 2008, 05:52:22 AM »
so excited i need 2 days to gather my thoughts!!!   :clap:

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #123 on: July 22, 2008, 06:10:20 AM »
if you want to get yourself really excited... compare that PDF to an image on google maps and look at just how much parking lot is about to disapear.

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #124 on: July 22, 2008, 06:18:26 AM »
Excellent news!!  This is one that I've been waiting for personally, as University Circle is so important to the region.  I love it!! 

I just hate that the paper, even in a news story that is so positive for the city, must throw in the usual quips at C-town.   

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/07/view02.jpg

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/07/view01.jpg

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/07/Uard.jpg
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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #125 on: July 22, 2008, 06:23:33 AM »
Ridiculous...
"Uptown aims to showcase and build on University Circle's job growth and potential, a bright spot in a beleaguered city."
"Despite the ailing housing market and Greater Cleveland's economic turmoil, Uptown's developers and organizations are confident they'll attract residents, shoppers, diners, students and museum-goers to University Circle."

would it have been so hard just to have...

"Uptown aims to showcase and build on University Circle's job growth and potential."

"Uptown's developers and organizations are confident they'll attract residents, shoppers, diners, students and museum-goers to University Circle."

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #126 on: July 22, 2008, 06:31:51 AM »
Sounds transformative. :clap:  Zaremba is right that it is an incredible area to begin with.
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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #127 on: July 22, 2008, 06:56:26 AM »
Books & Media booksellers lol.

Looks Great!!

Reminds me of The South Campus Gateway in Columbus across from The OSU.

Can not wait until this is complete. Then There will only be that gap in new development from 55th to apx. 79th to contend with along Euclid.

I do like how the PD put in the little factoid about 5 Billion in devlopment going on along Euclid. To keep the naysayers about the ECP quiet.
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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #128 on: July 22, 2008, 07:17:14 AM »
Good news.  It's almost criminal how undeveloped University Circle is in terms of restaurants, bars, movie theaters and bookstores, and I'm thrilled about this.  Probably the most potential of any other large scale project in Cleveland excluding Euclid Corridor!

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« Reply #129 on: July 22, 2008, 07:43:22 AM »
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Reminds me of The South Campus Gateway in Columbus across from The OSU.

That's what I was thought for a second from the first rendering but what makes this different/better is that this has the potential-albeit based on some renderings, to attract tourists interested in architecture/urban planning--especially with MOCA and MCA anchoring this development (not to mention CMA and Co.) 

Take into account all of the cultural, medical, and educational institutions plus the Red Line and Healthline connections, Little Italy/Coventry adjacencies, and Rockefeller Park and we're ultimately left with this very unique, sustainable "city".   This will attract the attention of any interested in the built environment and how fitting that Cleveland is at the center of this again (Burnham, Van Sweringens, even the Gateway complex).

Oh, cleveland.com rejects weren't too bad actually except for one person who thinks that in order for this to be successful, it needs more parking... :roll: it's actually quite sad and disturbing...Maybe they were just trying to push our buttons but I don't doubt that there are some that actually think that...
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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #130 on: July 22, 2008, 07:43:23 AM »
in the upper right image of the PDF, you can see the CIA expansion sneaking though...kinda neat.

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« Reply #131 on: July 22, 2008, 07:47:17 AM »
What does everyone think about the architecture? This is no Avenue District and it sure wasn't designed by Paul Volpe. (the links above show some additional images)
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« Reply #132 on: July 22, 2008, 07:50:35 AM »
What does everyone think about the architecture? This is no Avenue District and it sure wasn't designed by Paul Volpe. (the links above show some additional images)

Well, I like the building that is to the north of Euclid alot, not so much the one to the south.  It looks like a modernized commie-block with it's large flat grey surface with too few windows punched into it.  Of course, this is from only a couple of small rendering.  Can't wait to see more.

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« Reply #133 on: July 22, 2008, 07:54:48 AM »
The first floor of the southern building will be all glass. You can be walking on Euclid and see through the first floor retail/entertainment use and see right into the new alley.  Oh, and there will be an interior alley between this building (the "J" building as some are calling it) and the old triangle apartments. The developers are envisioning this alley as a sort of entertainment district.

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« Reply #134 on: July 22, 2008, 07:56:19 AM »
The first floor of the southern building will be all glass. You can be walking on Euclid and see through the first floor retail/entertainment use and see right into the new alley.  Oh, and there will be an interior alley between this building (the "J" building as some are calling it) and the old triangle apartments. The developers are envisioning this alley as a sort of entertainment district.

I just hope the alley doesn't detract from Euclid and Mayfield/Ford.

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« Reply #135 on: July 22, 2008, 07:59:18 AM »
The first floor of the southern building will be all glass. You can be walking on Euclid and see through the first floor retail/entertainment use and see right into the new alley.  Oh, and there will be an interior alley between this building (the "J" building as some are calling it) and the old triangle apartments. The developers are envisioning this alley as a sort of entertainment district.

I noticed that.  It's just one rendering, but I still think it looks like a harsh, uninviting space.  The glass ground floor is ok, just ok, and the upper level seems "Brutalist revival" and monolithic.  I don't like the way that it curves to define the alley space at all.  Not with that lack of human scale architectural detail.
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« Reply #136 on: July 22, 2008, 08:01:03 AM »
While it isn't officeDA's strongest effort, I have faith in them and Stanley Saitowitz/Natoma that it will come out better than it looks in the renderings.
The parking lot comments are ridiculous.

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« Reply #137 on: July 22, 2008, 08:15:38 AM »
I. Am. So. Excited. Aaaaaaahahaha!!!

Sorry.

I think this neighborhood will seriously be incredibly transformative. Very, very cool.

I'm still not sure how I feel about the design. I think it's definitely different from what Cleveland has now, and in that way, it's good and unique to the area. But is it warm and embraceable? Hmm .. I don't know. But personally, I think I really like it. It's more up my modern architecture alley.

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« Reply #138 on: July 22, 2008, 08:19:41 AM »
Zaremba said the condo/apartment thingies were going to be "ikea-like"

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« Reply #139 on: July 22, 2008, 08:20:38 AM »
Zaremba said the condo/apartment thingies were going to be "ikea-like"

And that was supposed to be a good thing? Hmm. That comment alone makes me worry.

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« Reply #140 on: July 22, 2008, 08:22:55 AM »
Zaremba said the condo/apartment thingies were going to be "ikea-like"


I heard that some of the apartments will feature moveable walls--you can sort of design your own space. I'm guessing that was what he was talking about.

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« Reply #141 on: July 22, 2008, 08:24:40 AM »
And that was supposed to be a good thing? Hmm. That comment alone makes me worry.
You and me both!

I think he might mean ikea-like in a "modular" design.  Lets hope that is only for the rental units.  I think that "design" interest, might appeal to the whippersnappers who they are targetting to live/work/play in the the area.

30 & 40 somethings workers/professional who are also on the target list might buy larger units and have bigger budgets to work with in regard to deisgn/decor of their unit.

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #142 on: July 22, 2008, 08:27:18 AM »
Well of course Nathan Zaremba could just as easily rattle off Poggenpohl, B&B Italia, and Cassina but here's the reaction he'd get from 90% (or more) of Clevelanders:

 :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

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« Reply #143 on: July 22, 2008, 08:28:06 AM »
Well of course Nathan Zaremba could just as easily rattle off Poggenpohl, B&B Italia, and Cassina but here's the reaction he'd get from 90% (or more) of Clevelanders:

 :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Ummm .. and me. :)

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« Reply #144 on: July 22, 2008, 08:29:34 AM »
I am so, so, so excited and hope to own one of these condos when they open.  So much to digest here.

I noticed that.  It's just one rendering, but I still think it looks like a harsh, uninviting space.  The glass ground floor is ok, just ok, and the upper level seems "Brutalist revival" and monolithic.  I don't like the way that it curves to define the alley space at all.  Not with that lack of human scale architectural detail.

A lot is going to depend on the facade material and detailing, to state the obvious.  The one Office dA project I've looked at closely in person (in Boston) was f'ing awesome IMHO.  It used tightly packed bricks to introduced recognizable scale and texture to a large facade in a way that I thought really worked.  I have a lot of confidence in these guys.


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« Reply #145 on: July 22, 2008, 08:34:01 AM »
And that was supposed to be a good thing? Hmm. That comment alone makes me worry.
You and me both!

I think he might mean ikea-like in a "modular" design.  Lets hope that is only for the rental units.  I think that "design" interest, might appeal to the whippersnappers who they are targetting to live/work/play in the the area.

30 & 40 somethings workers/professional who are also on the target list might buy larger units and have bigger budgets to work with in regard to deisgn/decor of their unit.

Yes, the Ikea comment was in reference to the lower-priced units that they want students and such to inhabit.

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« Reply #146 on: July 22, 2008, 10:17:48 AM »
I think that the best thing about this for us Ubran Ohio'ers is that when it's all done being built, we can go hang out there and it'll not only be fun and good to know Cleveland is doing well, but we'll basically have all these new neighborhoods and districts to just hang out in that previously did not exist. This one sparks my interest equally as much as Flats East Bank. Pitts and Columbus have jumped the ship on us with these sort of new neighborhoods or re-development projects, but once all is said and done, Cleveland will come out the winner since so many are planned at once. I often go to Pittsburgh and say to myself how Cleveland needs something like the E. Carson Street re-development. Same with Short North's different new urban projects in Columbus. They both add density, street action, big name retail, people, and fun. It's in NE Ohio, but we gotta go to Crocker Park to get it. So, yes, this will be amazing in 5 years to enjoy this stuff in the WHD, FEB, Avenue District, UC, or also Upper Chester. Lots to look forward to, and that makes me happy!

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« Reply #147 on: July 22, 2008, 11:29:58 AM »
Zaremba said the condo/apartment thingies were going to be "ikea-like"

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I am incredibly disappointed with everything I have ever purchased from Ikea. The Nordic minimalist idea is great, but using fiberboard with a snappy wood grain pattern glued on the outside does not make quality!

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I have worked in the service industry in the UC/CCF neighborhoods for over two years now. Since the first week of work I have wondered why there isn't a greater demand for higher end residential and commercial around the Clinic and Case. The neighborhood is great to visit during the day, but at night time there is not a whole lot to do. I'm hoping that these projects will help create a neighborhood that isn't just a place to work, but also a great place to live and an after hours destination rivaling E 4th, Warehouse, and Coventry.

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« Reply #148 on: July 22, 2008, 11:31:36 AM »
Zaremba said the condo/apartment thingies were going to be "ikea-like"

<tangent>
I am incredibly disappointed with everything I have ever purchased from Ikea. The Nordic minimalist idea is great, but using fiberboard with a snappy wood grain pattern glued on the outside does not make quality!

<end tangent>

I have worked in the service industry in the UC/CCF neighborhoods for over two years now. Since the first week of work I have wondered why there isn't a greater demand for higher end residential and commercial around the Clinic and Case. The neighborhood is great to visit during the day, but at night time there is not a whole lot to do. I'm hoping that these projects will help create a neighborhood that isn't just a place to work, but also a great place to live and an after hours destination rivaling E 4th, Warehouse, and Coventry.

The motto of Case undergrads has always been "you have to make a social life for yourself" :-/

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« Reply #149 on: July 22, 2008, 11:39:29 AM »
As a waiter, I don't have a social life! :)

But seriously, on evenings when nothing is going on in the evening at Severance, the Playhouse, or the Clinic, its qqqquuuiiieeetttt! I have never seen a college that has virtually no night life going on in the neighborhood surrounding.