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« on: September 17, 2004, 06:54:40 AM »
Group plans Main St. condos


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Nonprofit to renovate Over-the-Rhine storefronts as well

By Ken Alltucker
Enquirer staff writer


Denver-based Mercy Housing plans to renovate a half-dozen storefronts and build 25 condos on or near Main Street as part of its purchase of 200 low-income Over-the-Rhine apartments from Mercy Health Partners.

Mercy Health Partners will transfer ownership of the Over-the-Rhine units and give $3.6 million to Mercy Housing. Mercy Housing also wants the city to kick in nearly $550,000 through a loan and a lead-abatement grant. Cincinnati's community development department has given tentative approval to a $290,990 loan and a $259,000 lead-abatement grant.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2004, 07:30:26 AM »
Great news.

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2004, 07:34:35 AM »
yes...excellent.

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2005, 06:24:30 PM »
Here are a few projects that are in the near-term completion stages for 2005.

These were picked from Downtown Cincinnati Inc.'s 4th Quarter State of the Downtown.

Other info came from the Cincinnati MLS, the Hamilton County Auditor and other various websites.

If any of these create a discussion, I'll split them off if necessary.


Excelsior Row/Sycamore Terrace (Mt. Auburn)
Address: 1780-1810 Sycamore St.
Description: New construction
Developer: Vineyard Homes Inc.
Units: 10 single-family homes
Unit size: 2 BR
Status: 3 or 4 completed, $229,000-$325,000
http://www.sweeneysells.com/excelsior/excelsiorindex.html
http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=866100&prop=1003043





Mercy Housing
Address: Various, mostly along Main St.
Description: Non-profit renovation/management of existing units as well as 6 storefronts
Developer: Mercy Housing, Inc.
Units: 160, low-income (25 condo/135 apartments)
Unit size: n/a
Status: ongoing

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31 W. Thirteenth St.
Address: 31 W. Thirteenth St.
Description: Renovation of former efficiency apt. complex...Built in 1905
Developer: Model Management/3CDC/Washington Park Housing Ltd. Partnership
Units: 37
Unit size: unknown
Status: now accepting applications, I believe





The Lackman
Address: 1237 Vine St.
Description: Building from 1900
Developer: City Center Properties
Units: 8 rental apartments, plus ground floor commercial
Unit size: unknown
Status: work begins Spring 2005
http://www.cincinnatilofts.com/vine1237_index.htm





1220 Vine St.
Address: 1220 Vine St.
Description: Building from 1901
Developer: City Center Properties
Units: 15 rental apartments, plus ground floor commercial
Unit size: unknown
Status: work begins Spring 2005
http://www.cincinnatilofts.com/vine1220_index.htm






1311-1313 Spring St.
Address: 1311-1313 Spring St.
Description: Buildings from 1865/1885
Developer: Urban Sites/Sam Crew Construction LLC
Units: 2 townhomes
Unit size: 1600-2000 SF
Status: under construction, $189,000-$229,000
http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=862493&prop=997704





New City Lofts
Address: 110-112 E. Thirteenth St.
Description: Buildings from 1860/1882
Developer: B2B Equities LLC
Units: 6 loft condos
Unit size: 1290-2355 SF
Status: for sale, $149,900-$224,900
http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=911389&prop=1058863
http://www.b2bequities.com/forsale.html





Mulberry Views
Address: 126-134 Mulberry St.
Description: New construction
Developer: Vineyard Homes
Units: 5 single-family homes
Unit size: unknown, but up to 2100 SF
Status: almost completed, $209,900-$275,500 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=924884&prop=1076426

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1314 Spring St.
Address: 1314 Spring St.
Description: Building from 1885
Developer: Studio 1405 LLC
Units: 4 condos
Unit size:
Status: almost completed and for sale, $125,000-$140,000
http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=887893&prop=1029514





216 Orchard St.
Address: 216 Orchard St.
Description: Renovation of an old church from 1859
Developer: Bill Slone
Units: 1, possibly 2 townhomes
Unit size: 1800-3000 SF
Status: under construction

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2005, 07:01:25 PM »
Beautiful.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2005, 07:50:41 PM »
Looks like alot is happening.  Is there much vacant land in OTR?

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2005, 10:01:00 PM »
Cincy is just really running  w. this urban living concept......color me "impressed"!

I am so glad to see this happening!


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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2005, 11:11:23 PM »
Nobody is going to buy that spring st house. it is right next to a very noisy daycare business. Nice unit though.

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2005, 11:26:51 PM »
Nice unit though.

Is this the appropriate time for a Beavis and Butthead line?


Very nice...I'm curious about how this level of development and re-development compares with other times - is OTR on a small upswing, a major upswing, or is this just the regular background level of development we'd see at any time?

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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2005, 11:40:04 PM »
It is on a major swing in some areas..other areas it will take many many years for anything good to happen.

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2005, 09:30:51 AM »
It is great to see some development working up Vine.  I hope it is sustainable development.  That street could be great!

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2005, 11:49:27 AM »
Are those rental properties on Vine going to be market-rate? It would seem they would be in a good locatation to rent to Art Academy students or even young professionals, although that area still has a ways to go. I hope at least it's not being developed for more section 8 housing because the area could really benefit from the synergystic effect of the Kroger condos, Art Academy, and some market-rate rental units, in addition to many other projects planned in the vicinity. I'm excited to see how that area's doing a year from now.

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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2005, 02:16:34 PM »
31 west thirteenth is going to be section 8 voucher.  :x Why waste money rehabbing when it is going to be trashed as soon as they are occupied.

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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2005, 02:39:08 PM »
Developers and landlords "waste money" on section 8 housing because they get a guaranteed return on their investment, assuming they attract tenants. Therefore, it's more appealing to a low-income rental provider to serve section 8 renters rather than low-income renters who might not pay their rent every month. My understanding of section 8 doesn't go beyond this basic premise. But, I hope to goodness the government would come up with a system that requires some accountability and prevents both parties from abusing the system.

Also, it was my understanding 31 W. 13th was not section 8 housing. It is geared more towards working families who must show proof of employment and income to live there. I doubt 3CDC or Washington Park Housing would be involved in bringing more section 8 housing into that neigborhood. Although, I've been wrong before.

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2005, 03:44:16 PM »
"Model management" are the ones running the west thirteenth building.

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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2005, 07:00:07 PM »
As I understood it, 31 W. Thirteenth was going to be sold as "low-income", but whether or not that would involve section 8, I do not know.  Various searches for section 8 apartments for rent did not turn up this property.

X--In all honesty, there are buildings missing here and there but OTR is pretty well intact for an area that was built mostly 100-150 years ago.  Of course, some streets are more together than others...some have multiple empty blocks.  Check the pic at the end of this response--it's only part of OTR, but it gives you the idea.

RIVERVIEWER--I'd say this is a major upswing.  Comparing it to the 1995-2003 projects listed on DCI's State of the Downtown, last year's activity just blows that away.  2005, well, hopefully it will be even better.

HAYNESm007--I believe 1220 Vine and the Lackman will be geared to Art Academy students.  I think they're going to be market-rate, which is what City Center Properties usually does.

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2005, 10:35:31 PM »
Grasscat- thanks, that does help me visualize it.

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2005, 11:56:12 PM »
Liberty St. was widened and mowed down all buildings on its south side.  A Kentucky Fried Chicken, gas station, and some kind of health clinic built in the 80's are there as well as a half dozen empty lots.  Along with Washington Park school, Kroger, and that weird barn next to Kroger these are the only newer buildings in the neighborhood.  But there are at least 100 empty lots and probably another 100 buildings that appear to be falling down. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2005, 05:44:21 AM »
Here is an article from this week's Business Couriere.

OTR park area set to bloom
Owner gets lots of interest in 40 parcels
Dan Monk and Lucy May
Courier Senior Staff Reporters
Tom Denhart, one of Over-the-Rhine's largest low-income landlords, is looking to sell dozens of properties near Music Hall, a move that could hasten the redevelopment of the blocks surrounding Washington Park.

 
Denhart said there is "a lot of interest" in the roughly 40 parcels he owns in a six-block area north of the troubled park, where civic and business leaders are charting major new investments aimed at sparking a wave of revitalization in the southwestern corner of Over-the-Rhine.
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2005, 08:05:38 AM »
 :clap:Oh this is great news! I thought Hart had liquidated all of his properties a few years ago and didnt realize he had 40 more???

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ReSTOC wants to partner with other major property owners to ensure that a critical mass of buildings in that area gets redeveloped, Hutzel said. "It doesn't do us any good to target one or two properties and put $100,000 or $200,000 into them," he said. "We need a critical mass."
I don't want RESTOC redeveloping properties in critical mass proportions. I would rather them go one or two properties at a time and do a good rehab!

 
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Smith is working on a $5 million renovation of a low-income apartment building at 13th and Race, converting 79 one-bedroom units into 37 larger apartments geared to the working poor. Model Group would like to buy more property in the area, but "prices are going up.
  well thats good!

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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2005, 01:00:48 PM »
^ Cincinnati_Kid, I went ahead and posted that article in the Washington Park thread too.

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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2005, 06:28:24 PM »
Some cat named Wade Dent is rehabbing 6 units at 1923/1925/1929 Elm (corner of Elm and Henry).  These apartments were built in 1880.

Yes, I know this project is pretty small but I have to give the guy props for investing some money in OTR and redoing the building.

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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2005, 10:26:37 PM »
That's an amazingly plain bldg. for 1880.  Maybe it has had previous alterations or somthing.

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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2005, 10:48:18 PM »
Maybe it's just ugly.

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« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2005, 01:27:10 PM »
Work will soon begin on 132 Mulberry (Mulberry Views/Vineyard Homes).

Also, 79 Peete St. is about to undergo $100,000 worth of repairs.
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« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2005, 07:09:09 PM »
The following information culled from DCI's 2005 Center City Residential Report (PDF).  Photos are from the website of the Hamilton County Auditor (property search).

CONDOS/TOWNHOMES

1720 Pleasant St.
City of Cincinnati
Planned renovation of 1875 building
5 condo units...approx. 600 SF



72 E. Clifton Ave./79 Peete St.
Shabob LLC
Under renovation
6 condos, 1024-2580 SF
$157,000-$182,000



Dandridge Townhomes
508-518 Dandridge St.
City of Cincinnati

Planned development on vacant lots, first proposed in 2003
6 townhomes, 1750 SF
$185,000


Goodfellows Lofts
1306 Main St.
Urban Legacy LLC

1820 building under renovation
5 units



KD Lamp
1900 block Elm St.
Open Door Development

Planned renovation of old manufacturing building
80 units



Sohn Brewery
242 W. McMicken Ave.
KDW Properties LLC

Planned renovation of 1930s warehouse
20 condo/townhouse units, 800-2000 SF
$75,000-$150,000...renovation begins early 2006



St. Charles
1206 Main St.
Bray Development

Planned renovation of 1866 building
3 condos, 1300-3200 SF, 2-3 BR/1-2.5 BA
$149,900-$274,900




SINGLE FAMILY
(DISCLAIMER: I've listed "demolition" in many of these where the square footage of the new residences doesn't square up with the buildings' footprints.  I have listed "renovation" where they are similar.  These are just guesses by me and have not been verified.)

1805 Frintz St.
(unsure where this house will end up, as the lot for this address doesn't show)

Pre-development
$250,000


29 E. Clifton Ave.
Sondra Walls

Pre-development, involves renovation of 1880 structure
1850 SF, $185,000



49 E. Clifton Ave.
Sondra Walls

Pre-development, involves renovation of two-family 1880 building
1640 SF, $164,000



55 E. Clifton Ave.
Chancie Walls/Sondra Walls

Pre-development, involves renovation of 1870 apartment building
3182 SF, $298,200



57 E. Clifton Ave.
Chancie Walls/Sondra Walls

Pre-development, involves renovation of 1882 apartment building
3086 SF, $292,600



1918 Vine St.
Sondra Walls

Pre-development, involves demolition of 1876 two-family dwelling
3096 SF, $294,000



47 E. Clifton Ave.
Vernon W. Menifee III

Pre-development, involves demolition of an 1865 two-family dwelling



31 E. Clifton Ave.
Roy and Ruth Orling

Pre-development, renovation of an 1880 single-family dwelling



2 Hust Alley
Roy and Ruth Orling

Pre-development, renovation of an 1870 single-family dwelling
2361 SF, $236,100



39 E. Clifton Ave.
Paul and Carol Ann Koeninger

Pre-development, renovation of an 1870 two-family dwelling (gray one in middle)
1240 SF, $124,000



75 Peete St.
Paul and Carol Ann Koeninger

Predevelopment, renovation of 1870 single-family dwelling



38 E. Clifton Ave.
David and Carolynn Durrett

Predevelopment, renovation of 1869 single-family dwelling
1342 SF, $234,200



Light House/Manor House (Lofts on Broadway)
1111-1113 Broadway
Urban Sites

Predevelopment, on market soon and can be seen on the OTR Tour of Living (June 5th)
2500 SF (Light)-3400 SF (Manor)
(what the buildings formerly looked like):



Pendleton Mews
Spring, Pendleton and Dandridge Streets

Project kicked off in 2002 by Over-the-Rhine Foundation and Verdin Co.
Now they're saying fall 2005--we shall see....
17 units, $250,000+
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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2005, 08:40:59 PM »
This is great news for OTR. Some of those buildings are in very high-crime sections of the neighborhood and (if sold/rented at market rate) would be the only true market rate housing literally within 2 blocks.  True urban pioneers!

My too-good-to-be-true list:
2 Hust Alley
1720 Pleasant St.
1918 Vine St.
and all the double-digit E. Clifton St. addresses.

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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2005, 09:32:11 PM »
Why can't they use eminent domain on all of OTR and then refurbish every single building. That would clear up crime in downtown instantly.

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« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2005, 10:53:58 PM »
Wow...thanks for culling the data for this update, grasscat!

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« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2005, 11:25:27 PM »
Can you guys describe the geographic patterns of which areas are seeing most of these projects and which areas have thus far received little such attention?  I'd have to look up every address to figure this out for myself, but I'm sure many of you can describe it off the top of your head.