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Which best reflects your attitude regarding the statewide smoking ban:

I was for the ban before, and I'm glad it passed.
80 (64.5%)
I was against the ban before, and I wish it hadn't passed.
29 (23.4%)
I was for the ban before, but now I wish it hadn't passed.
1 (0.8%)
I was against the ban before, but now I'm glad it passed.
10 (8.1%)
I had no opinion then, and I have no opinion now.
4 (3.2%)

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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #420 on: December 21, 2006, 12:50:12 AM »
From the 12/7/06 Ironton Tribune:


Statewide smoking ban starts today
By Kirsten Stanley/The Ironton Tribune
Thursday, December 7, 2006 10:13 AM CST


If you’re a smoker and plan to go out today, make sure you don’t plan on lighting up.

A statewide law nixing smoking in most public places is now in effect.

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http://www.delphosherald.com/page2.php?story=12129&archive=
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #421 on: December 21, 2006, 12:55:15 AM »
From BG News, 12/7/06:


Bar owners unhappy over ban
By: Kara Ohngren
Issue date: 12/7/06 Section: Campus


Local bar owners are unhappy.

Earlier this fall, 58 percent of voters passed ballot Issue 5 which will ban smoking in all "public places" and "places of employment" beginning today - this naturally includes bars.

Bob Everhart, owner of Ziggy Zoomba's Bar and Grill on East Wooster Street, said he thinks the new law is "stupid" and is disappointed that voters adopted an issue that doesn't directly affect them.

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http://www.stateronline.com/media/storage/paper867/news/2006/12/07/News/Public.Smoking.Ban.Takes.Effect.Today-2526851.shtml?norewrite200612210052&sourcedomain=www.stateronline.com

From the 12/7/06 (YSU) Jambar:


Students react to smoking ban at YSU
Justin Charles Hite
Issue date: 12/7/06 Section: pageone


Youngstown State University students received an e-mail from Manager of News and Information Services Ron Cole on Wednesday regarding the university's new rules against smoking, Beginning today, a law banning smoking goes into effect.

The new law prohibits smoking in public buildings and smoking in spaces immediately adjacent to building entrances. YSU, which already prohibits smoking in buildings, is extending the smoking ban to the entire campus.

However, Cole's e-mail stated that the university will consider establishing two areas on the campus core where smoking can occur.

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http://www.thejambar.com/media/storage/paper324/news/2006/12/07/Pageone/Students.React.To.Smoking.Ban.At.Ysu-2527731.shtml?norewrite200612210052&sourcedomain=www.thejambar.com

From the 12/7/06 (OU) Post:


Statewide ban snuffs out public smoking
Justin Thompson / Associate Editor / jt315004@ohiou.edu
Kantele Franko / City Editor / kf271804@ohiou.edu


Although the official system of enforcement will not be in place until June, the public smoking ban passed by Ohio voters officially took effect today, leaving many of the state's roughly 2 million adult smokers feeling burned.

The statewide law, which 62 percent of Athens County voters supported, nullifies the city of Athens' Clean Indoor Air Ordinance, said city Code Enforcement Director Steve Pierson, whose office handled complaints related to the ordinance. That set of regulations, approved more than 15 years ago, prohibits smoking in some public places, such as public transportation,

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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #422 on: December 21, 2006, 01:04:34 AM »
From the 12/8/06 PD:


Teams, arenas adjusting to smoking ban
Friday, December 08, 2006
Harlan Spector
Plain Dealer Reporter


The Indians said Thursday that the team will ban smoking in luxury suites and other designated areas of Jacobs Field to comply with a new state law approved by voters.

Smoking has been prohibited in seating areas of the ballpark since it opened in 1994. The SmokeFree Ohio law that took effect Thursday requires the team to eliminate smoking in several designated areas as well as the Club Lounge and Terrace Club restaurant, Indians spokesman Bob DiBiasio said.

Team officials considered creating corralled smoking areas outside the ballpark, which would allow fans to exit and re-enter, he said. But the Indians determined that outside areas would violate the law, which says patios must have a partition that prevents smoke from migrating indoors.



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From the 12/8/06 Dispatch:


Smoking ban put on hold
Deal means law might not be enforced until June

Friday, December 08, 2006
Bill Bush and Matt Tullis
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


The state of Ohio acknowledged yesterday that it can’t enforce a statewide smoking ban until rules and regulations are drafted sometime next year.

The smoking ban, which was approved by Ohio voters in the November election, officially took effect yesterday.

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http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2006/12/08/20061208-A1-04.html

From the 12/8/06 Blade:


Bar owners wait to see if smokers stay
Many fear state ban will drive customers to Michigan clubs

By CLYDE HUGHES
BLADE STAFF WRITER


Xenios Xenofontos looked around his bar with a handful of customers yesterday afternoon and worried who would show up last night and who would opt to drink - and smoke - in Michigan.

Mr. Xenofontos, the owner of the Good Times Sports Bar & Grill, at 5119 Jackman Rd., faced the same dilemma every bar owner around Ohio faced yesterday during the first hours of the state-enforced smoking ban.

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http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061208/NEWS24/612080375/-1/NEWS

From the 12/8/06 DDN:


Bars, restaurants, patrons adjust to Ohio's smoking ban
Said one casual smoker: 'I'm not worried about it. I'm kinda glad. I don't like all that smoke.'

By Anthony Gottschlich
Staff Writer
Friday, December 08, 2006


DAYTON — In the "old" days, a haze of blue smoke would greet patrons as they entered the Moraine Embassy bar and restaurant downtown.

But old smoky was just a memory here Thursday, the first day for Ohio's strict new Smoke-Free law that bans smoking in most indoor public places and workplaces, including bars, restaurants, bingo halls and bowling alleys.

"The heaviest smokers didn't come," server Kathy Thompson said shortly after the lunch rush. "I've got two ladies that come in — they smoke 10 to 14 cigarettes an hour. They weren't here."

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http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/12/07/ddn120806smokingfolo.html

From the 12/8/06 ABJ:


Out on their butts  :roll:
Smokers brave the elements as new ban takes effect
Beacon Journal staff report


Ohio voters decided in November 3-to-2 to outlaw smoking in virtually all public places.

Members of Akron's VFW Post 3383 decided to take their own vote over whether the club should comply with the new law.

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http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/16192798.htm?source=rss&channel=ohio_news
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #423 on: December 21, 2006, 01:09:51 AM »
From the 12/8/06 Canton Repository:


Restaurants, smokers adjust as ban begins
By LORI MONSEWICZ
REPOSITORY STAFF WRITER


CANTON Peanuts and toothpicks replaced ashtrays at Walther’s Cafe on Thursday and waitresses were no longer asking, “Smoking or nonsmoking?” before seating customers.

Barmaid Cindy Bowman said her usually smoking customers who are now prohibited by the state’s new law banning smoking in public places are “handling it pretty good.”

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http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=323634

From the 12/8/06 Warren Tribune Chronicle:


Smoke signals differ
From staff / wire reports

Smokers facing public bans on their vice still may be able to smoke in public, depending on how a new legal challenge to the law fares as it works its way through the court system.

Attorneys representing a trade group that filed a lawsuit trying to block Ohio’s new smoking ban agreed Thursday to put their lawsuit on hold in exchange for assurance by the state that it would not enforce the ban until the law’s rules are in place, something not likely to happen before May 2007.

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http://tribune-chronicle.com/articles.asp?articleID=12094

From the 12/8/06 Lorain Morning Journal:


First night of no smoking leaves some fans out in the cold
MEGAN KING, Morning Journal Writer
12/08/2006


AVON LAKE -- The Steelers may have smoked the Browns at Heinz Field last night, but no smoking was allowed in bars where Lorain County residents gathered to watch the game.

Yesterday marked the first day of smoke free bars, restaurants and other public places in Ohio because Issue 5, a smoking ban passed by almost 60 percent of the voters statewide last month, went into effect.
 
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http://www.morningjournal.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17566140&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46371&rfi=6

From the 12/8/06 Zanesville Times Recorder:


Smoking ban still elicits mixed feelings
Staff Report

Born Sianjina, boys' soccer coach at River View High School, is glad Ohio's new smoking ban went into effect Thursday.

Working with young people enables him to see some of the effects smoking has on health.

"If a kid smokes, you can tell, they don't have the endurance they should," he said.

A nonsmoker, Sianjina said smoking doesn't just affect the smoker.

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http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061208/NEWS01/612080316/1002/rss01
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #424 on: December 21, 2006, 01:15:08 AM »
From the 12/8/06 Lima News:


Smoking ban won’t be enforced, yet
BY KIMBERLY R. SIMMONS - Dec. 8, 2006

LIMA — Thursday began as the first day of a smoking ban in public places. By afternoon, attorneys for the state and a trade group had agreed to put enforcement of the law on hold until details and specifics are worked out.

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http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=32928

From the 12/8/06 Medina Gazette:


Barmaid gets jump on new smoking ban, quits 5 weeks early
By KATIE KHOURY
Staff Writer


MEDINA — Pixie Stutts didn't wait for Ohio's new smoking ban to take effect.

Stutts, a bartender at the Roadside Inn in Lafayette Township, said she became a nonsmoker "as of the election."

"My take on it was that once they passed the no-smoking law, not only were customers going to be grumpy, so were the barmaids," she said. "So I figured if I stopped smoking five weeks ago, I'd be the pleasant one when everyone else was grumpy because they couldn't have a cigarette."

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http://www.medina-gazette.com/Articles.asp?num=59477489

From the 12/8/06 Miami Student:


Ohio enacts statewide smoking ban
Policy requires business owners to remove ashtrays, post signs

Claudia Auger
Issue date: 12/8/06 Section: Front Page

 
On Wednesday evening, Miami University senior Tim Yaczo lit a cigarette outside of Balcony, perhaps foreshadowing many more outdoor cigarette breaks to come.

Thursday, Ohio enacted Issue 5, The Smoke Free Workplace Act supported by SmokeFree Ohio, which was passed in the November election. The new law places a ban on smoking in indoor public places in the state of Ohio.


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http://www.miamistudent.net/media/storage/paper776/news/2006/12/08/FrontPage/Ohio-Enacts.Statewide.Smoking.Ban-2529166.shtml?norewrite200612210112&sourcedomain=www.miamistudent.net

From the 12/8/06 Washington Court House Record Herald:


Companies comply with ban
Customers adjusting to end of smoking in public places

Ryan Carter
Staff Writer


Everyone may not like it, but the statewide smoking ban is here and the effects of the new law were evident in Washington C.H. on Thursday.

"I've noticed the signs up on all the restaurants," said Jerry Minor of Washington C.H. "It looks like everyone is pretty serious about this new law. I've been trying to quit smoking, so this may help me."

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http://www.recordherald.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=126926&TM=41208.72
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #425 on: December 21, 2006, 01:22:06 AM »
From the 12/8/06 Urbana Daily Citizen:


New smoking law? What new smoking law?
Some complying, others in denial

SHAUN DUNLAP
Staff Writer


Several local establishments were looking empty on Thursday, while others were business as usual when the statewide smoking ban went into effect.

The ban, which was passed on Nov. 7, prohibits smoking in nearly all public buildings and work places including bars, restaurants and bowling alleys.

Kenny and Debbie Connell, owners of K-n-D's Sports Bar and Grill in Mechanicsburg, said they usually have a significant happy hour crowd, but the smoking ban was already affecting business because only a few customers were attending the after-work event.

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http://www.urbanacitizen.com/main.asp?SectionID=3&SubSectionID=5&ArticleID=142361&TM=41256.38

From the 12/8/06 Massillon Independent:


Smokers take it outside
By MATTHEW RINK
Matthew.Rink@IndeOnline.com


The signs were posted at the Alibi. The ash trays were stacked behind the counter at Smiley’s.

And Bill Keinath shivered outside.

If a new state law banning smoking didn’t keep Keinath from his cigarettes, the bitter wintry winds sure did.

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http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=12380&r=2&Category=1

From the 12/8/06 News-Herald:


Issue still smokin'
Judge: No enforcement of smoking ban until the rules are in place

By: David W. Jones
DJones@News-Herald.com
12/08/2006


Ohio's new smoking ban won't be enforced until everybody understands what state laws they're supposed to obey, a judge ruled late Thursday afternoon.

Franklin County Common Pleas Court Judge Richard J. Frye made the ruling in response to a lawsuit filed by the Ohio Licensed Beverage Dealers Association.

Association President Kathy Bean owns the Petticoat Junction restaurant and bar in Mentor. She could not be reached for comment Thursday.

In a "consent decree," the beverage dealers and Ohio Department of Health mutually agreed to comply after the association filed a request for a temporary restraining order to halt the law.

"Specifically," the judge wrote, "ODH shall not make findings of violation, issue warning letters or assess/impose civil fines upon any business, organization, proprietor, employers, employee or individual who is alleged to or has violated" the new ban.

The state agency and county health departments cannot enforce the voter-approved new law "until such time" as the ODH director decides the rule, the judge wrote.

State health officials have said that clarifying exact aspects of the new state law might take up to six months.

Read more:

Staff Writer Sandra M. Klepach contributed to this report.

http://www.news-herald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17565763&BRD=1698&PAG=461&dept_id=21849&rfi=6

From the 12/8/06 Times-Reporter:


Confusion rules on first day of smoking ban
By KYLE KONDIK, T-R Staff Writer

Before the implementation of Ohio’s statewide indoor smoking ban Thursday, Dover’s Best Friends Bakery had a smokeless environment any anti-smoking advocate would applaud.

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http://www.timesreporter.com/index.php?ID=61716&r=2&Category=1
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #426 on: December 21, 2006, 01:26:09 AM »
From the 12/8/06 Greenville Daily Advocate:


Smoking ban ignored in bars
Bob Robinson
Managing Editor

 
GREENVILLE - In one local bar, a smoking customer sits down and the bartender pulls an ashtray from under the counter and places it in front of him.

In another local bar, the customer asks for a cup with about an inch of water in it... the ashtrays had been tossed that morning.

According to one source, there were private clubs where no attempt was made to even pretend to abide by the smoking ban, which went into effect Thursday. Ashtrays sat in the same place as they had the day before.

Business as usual.

Smoking as usual.

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http://www.dailyadvocate.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=2&ArticleID=122622&TM=656.833

From the 12/8/06 Athens Messenger:


Hocking College gets tough with tobacco
Matt Gallagher
Messenger staff writer


NELSONVILLE - Inspired by the Ohio Smoke Free Workplace Act banning smoking in public indoor places that kicked in Thursday, the Hocking College Board of Trustees passed a tobacco ban that went a step further.

The trustees banded the use of all tobacco on the entire campus, except inside private vehicles and specifically designated areas that will be decided later. These areas will include certain Inn at Hocking College rooms and places that are deemed tobacco-friendly by the college.

The ban even goes so far as to bar the use of tobacco products in the woods. Outdoor classes held on Hocking College property will be completely tobacco-free, according to the new policy.

"Hitler would be proud," commented Tom Hill, a trustee.

Hocking College President John Light admitted the ban is strict, going further than the law required.

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http://athensmessenger.com/Main.asp?SectionID=1&ArticleID=2020

From the 12/8/06 Logan Daily News:


Smoking ban affects Hocking truck drivers
Rule designed to protect those who share rigs

Melissa Cottrill
of The Logan Daily News


HOCKING COUNTY - Truckers who want to light up a cigarette in their cabs had better think twice. The statewide smoking ban that takes effect today includes company vehicles, with only a few exceptions.

"Nobody knows exactly what it's going to do," said Dave Emerson, owner of Hocking Cartage.

Hocking Cartage is a regional truckload carrier serving the Northeast and Midwest with its headquarters in Logan.


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http://www.logandaily.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=121787
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #427 on: December 21, 2006, 01:31:17 AM »
From the 12/9/06 Blade:


Legal attacks on smoking bans usually fail
Pattern of litigation described as fairly typical

By JENNI LAIDMAN
BLADE STAFF WRITER


Despite the whining, the last-minute lawsuits, and the general sense of smoker indignation, chances are high that six months from now Ohio will be enforcing a smoking law, and almost everyone will be toeing the line.

That's what's happened in other states where people have been told to step outside if they want to smoke. And both nonsmoking advocates and experts on tobacco litigation predict that will be the case in Ohio.

"This pattern is fairly typical," said Micah L. Berman, executive director of the Tobacco Public Policy Center at Capital University in Columbus.

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http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061209/NEWS32/612090377/-1/NEWS

From the 12/9/06 Youngstown Vindicator:


Will it come to this — renting ashtrays?
Some bars are following the law to "the letter," while others are following "in spirit."

By KATIE LIBECCO
VINDY.COM CORRESPONDENT


YOUNGSTOWN — It was the first Friday night that the smoking ban in Ohio was implemented, and area bars and clubs reacted with different measures.

Owners of Imbibe Martini Bar, 124 Federal Plaza West, said they didn't notice much change from a typical night, although they no longer permitted smoking inside the bar.

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http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/287688212718566.php

From the 12/9/06 Zanesville Times Recorder:


State not yet enforcing it, but ban is 'alive and well'
By KATHY THOMPSON
Staff Writer


ZANESVILLE - While the State of Ohio has agreed not to enforce the statewide smoking ban, the law is "alive and well" and is in effect.

Jennifer Hiestand, public information officer for the Zanesville-Muskingum County Health Department said her office has been receiving mostly calls from the public and business owners concerning the interpretation of the law and making sure they are in compliance.
   
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http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061209/NEWS01/612090303/1002/rss01

From the 12/9/06 Mansfield News Journal:


Smoking ban in place, enforcement issues remain
News Journal staff report

COLUMBUS -- The Ohio Department of Health will not begin enforcement of a statewide indoor smoking ban until spring, but its director warned Friday there is no grace period for abiding by the new law.

"Despite rumors and some news reports to the contrary, the Ohio smoking ban is alive and well," said ODH Director J. Nick Baird, M.D.

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http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061209/NEWS01/612090317/1002/rss01
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #428 on: December 21, 2006, 01:36:45 AM »
From the 12/9/06 Ravenna Record-Courier:


Smoking ban starts smoothly in Portage
December 9, 2006
By Deborah Guziak
Record-Courier staff writer


The first day of the state-wide smoking ban went off without a hitch at many Portage businesses Thursday.

"We had a lot of people go outside to smoke," said Paul Kotopka, assistant manager of Twin Star Lanes in Franklin Township said. Kotopka, who bowls in a league on Thursday night, was one of those who went outside to smoke between games.

"I did' see anyone light one up (in the alley)," he said. "I think people will get use to (the smoking ban.)"

At Ra' Place in Kent, owner Charlie Thomas also said there were no problems with customers wanting to smoke. As to whether the average number of customers remained the same as before the ban, Thomas said he did' know.

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http://www.recordpub.com/news/article/1155901

From the 12/9/06 News-Herald:


Ban lights up phone lines
Health departments taking complaints, answering questions about smoking law

By: David W. Jones
DJones@News-Herald.com
12/09/2006

 
Just as the Ohio Department of Health gets thousands of calls daily since the confusing statewide indoor business smoking ban started Thursday, the phones are also ringing off the hook at county health departments.

"They're saying that the law is not being enforced, or it's smokers calling me a Nazi or saying we're the Gestapo smoke police," Lake County Health Commissioner Joel Lucia said.

Mainly, Lucia said, it's people confused since the law was passed by voters Nov. 7 and then went into
effect on Thursday - the same day a judge declared it unenforceable anywhere until all the rules are clearly stated.

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http://www.news-herald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17570690&BRD=1698&PAG=461&dept_id=21849&rfi=6

From the 12/9/06 Mount Vernon News:


Businesses finding ways to comply with new law
By Dylan McCament, News Staff Writer 

MOUNT VERNON — Flappers Bar and Grille on Main Street had a smoker’s party on Wednesday and gave away all the ashtrays.

The state’s new smoking ban went into effect Thursday, forbidding smoking in public places and places of employment. The Ohio Department of Health has advised businesses throughout Ohio to remove their ashtrays and post signs. People will notice new no smoking signs posted at local restaurants and bars like Mazza’s, Flappers and Jake’s, as well as the absence of ashtrays.

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http://www.mountvernonnews.com/local/06/12/09/smoking.ban.html

From the 12/9/06 Steubenville Herald Star:


Smoking ban rules hazy
By SUMMER WALLACE-MINGER, Staff writer

STEUBENVILLE — Businesses across the area are throwing out their ashtrays after the Clean Indoor Air Act, approved by voters across Ohio on Nov. 7, went into effect Thursday.

Businesses and public buildings must now post signs advising employees and patrons they can’t smoke and giving a toll-free number for reports of violations, according to Patty Reda, Steubenville Health Department.

Local health departments have been instructed by the state to distribute signs and educate the public about the new law, said Reda.

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http://www.heraldstaronline.com/articles.asp?articleID=8905
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #429 on: December 21, 2006, 01:52:59 AM »
From the 12/10/06 Warren Tribune Chronicle:


Drivers may huff, but they can’t puff
By BILL RODGERS Tribune Chronicle

As Ohio’s smokers learn to deal with new restrictions on their vice, on-the-job motorists are not being left out.

Under the ban stopping most public smoking that took effect Thursday, puffing carcinogens also now is prohibited in company vehicles as well as places of employment. The vehicle stipulation could include police cruisers as well as company cars and big rigs, said Ohio Department of Health spokesman Kristopher Weiss.

‘‘Whatever the director says to do, I’ll do. That’s more of an administrative thing, not a tactical thing,’’ said Warren police Chief John Mandopoulos said. The ban will have an effect on his officers smoking in cruisers.

The city of Warren already has rules against smoking while in uniform. But Mandopoulos said he would need to hear from Safety Director Doug Franklin about smoking in cruisers.

Wendy Simpkins, a spokesperson for the Ohio Division of the American Cancer Society said that the vehicle ban was to protect nonsmokers who would be in the vehicles with smokers.

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http://tribune-chronicle.com/articles.asp?articleID=12159

From the 12/10/06 Wooster Daily Record:


In a haze over ban
Businesses check effects of new law against smoking

December 10, 2006
By SARAH SKYLARK BRUCE
Staff Writer


WOOSTER -- Cigarettes still shone like fireflies Saturday night at Buffalo Wild Wings on Burbank Road.

The reason was confusion over when the Ohio smoking ban takes effect. Buffalo Wild Wings posted a sign on its front door, stating, "Due to pending lawsuits, the statewide smoking ban is not in force until further notice."

However, tha' a smokescreen, when compared to information posted on the Ohio Department of Healt' website.

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http://www.the-daily-record.com/news/article/1157721
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From the 12/11/06 Athens News:


Cig ban looks different from inside smoke-free bar, out on chilly sidewalk
By Jonathan Hunt
Athens NEWS Writer
Monday, December 11th, 2006


Dec. 7, 2006, when the Ohio smoking ban officially began, may live in infamy like its 1941 counterpart to those who say it trumps private-property rights and personal freedoms.

Others who value clean air and the right of citizens to enjoy it may remember Dec. 7 as Christmas and the Fourth of July all wrapped into one.

In uptown Athens, where the ban nominally took effect during Ohio University's winter break, the immediate result so far appears to be a few more smoke-free bars and restaurants, more cigarette butts on the ground, and a few more folks gathered outside taverns to have a smoke.

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http://athensnews.com/index.php?action=viewarticle&section=news&story_id=26825

From the 12/11/06 Hillsboro Times-Gazette:


ODH says smoking ban is alive and well
Fines, enforcement put off until sometime this spring

By STEPHEN FORSHA
The Times-Gazette


With the statewide smoking ban in Ohio going into effect Dec. 7, businesses from around the state are being affected, with most businesses and employees in public buildings still unsure what the new law really means.

Ohio Department of Health Director J. Nick Baird issued a statement Friday saying that while the law remains in effect, the Department of Health is not able to levy any fines until the new law's enforcement mechanisms are in place. Baird said enforcement of the law will begin sometime in the spring.

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http://www.timesgazette.com/main.asp?SectionID=18&SubSectionID=175&ArticleID=141652&TM=42760.51

From the 12/11/06 Stow Sentry:


Police do not plan to enforce the smoking ban
by Kristin Casale
Reporter


Even though the new state smoking ban is in effect, local police say they will not play a role in enforcing it.

The ban, which went into effect Thursday, covers all enclosed public places and businesses, including restaurants and bars. Exempt from the law are retail tobacco stores, resident-only smoking rooms in nursing homes, 20 percent of each hotel’s sleeping rooms, outdoor patios and some private clubs and homes.

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E-mail: kcasale@recordpub.com
Phone: 330-686-3917[/i]

http://www.stowsentry.com/article.php?pathToFile=/archive/12112006/news/&file=_news1.txt&article=1&tD=12112006&PHPSESSID=9035f166f0397c0c31a8c656ea7b8719

From the 12/11/06 Greenville Daily Advocate:


Smokers keep on truckin'
"Even non-smokers are saying it's crazy"

Linda Moody
Assistant Editor


DARKE COUNTY - Because there really is no law spelled out as of yet on the no-smoking ban, truck drivers and trucking companies are just as confused about the proposal as other people are.

"We're already doing that in the office and shop and the same way with the company van," said Dick Lavy, owner of a local trucking firm. "And, if we have team drivers and one doesn't smoke, then they cannot smoke in that truck."

"If they get a ticket, that's their baby," he said.

Signs have been posted elsewhere at Lavy's, but they do not have to be put on the semis, according to Lavy, who said that probably 25 percent of his drivers smoke.

Has he gotten any feedback from his employees?

"A few said this might make them quit, and others say it is one freedom that should not be taken away," he said. "It's a mixed bag."

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http://www.dailyadvocate.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=2&ArticleID=122639&TM=177.791
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« Reply #431 on: December 21, 2006, 02:03:07 AM »
From the AP, 12/12/06:


Smoker charged with trespassing at Marietta bar
Tuesday, December 12, 2006
 
MARIETTA, Ohio (AP) — Less than a week after Ohio’s new smoking ban took effect, a smoker was arrested after police said he was asked to leave a bar but refused.

Donn Kerr, 56, of Marietta, was charged with criminal trespass, Marietta Police Capt. Jeff Waite said yesterday. When Kerr lit a cigarette inside the Marietta Brewing Company early Sunday, he was asked to put it out but would not, Waite said. Managers called police; when officers responded and told Kerr the bar wanted him to leave, he refused to go and was arrested, Waite said.

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From the 12/12/06 DDN:


Ohio's new no-smoking law
Are people obeying the ban?
Many restaurants comply. Some bars and taverns do not, sparking complaints.

By Terry Morris
Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 12, 2006


So, is Ohio's new ban on smoking really in effect? Depends who you talk to.

Many area restaurants began complying with the voter-approved measure when it went into effect Thursday. Some bars and taverns have ignored it. But the Ohio Department of Health insists the law is in force even though its agents can't enforce it yet.
 
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http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/12/11/ddn121206smokinga1.html

From the 12/12/06 Washington Court House Record Herald:


Still confused on lighting up, or not?
Brandon Smith
Staff Writer


Some local businesses have found what they think is a loophole in the recently enacted smoking ban.

According to Megan Batson, R.S., reporting at last night's meeting of the Fayette County Board of Health, business proprietors Batson did not identify told her that "they would pay a $2,500 fine up front, and allow people to smoke. They say the law says that the maximum fine is $2,500 every two years."

But Ohio Department of Health committees have six months to draft the rules for the enforcement of the law, according to Batson, and in the meantime, the public will continue to phone in the violations -- creating a larger and larger record for businesses which can be grounds for later punishment.

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http://www.recordherald.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=126936&TM=43665.83
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« Reply #432 on: December 21, 2006, 02:11:20 AM »
From the 12/13/06 Toledo Free Press:


COVER STORY
Smoking ban details have critics fired up

By Justin R. Kalmes
Toledo Free Press Metro Reporter
jkalmes@toledofreepress.com


It's a typical Thursday inside Delaney's Lounge.

The afternoon light filters through the blinds of the dimly lit tavern onto a group of truck drivers sitting at the bar. In between discussing their workday, the men sip from their longnecks and draw from their cigarettes as owner Bill Delaney looks on with a smile.

Ohio's recently passed smoking ban has gone into effect, but the ashtrays at the Alexis Road bar remain while the no-smoking signs Delaney is required to post are nowhere to be found.

“We're not going to take the ashtrays off, we're not going to put the signs up,” said Delaney, who also serves as president of the Northwest Ohio Licensed Beverage Association. “We are not abiding by [the smoking ban] and we are going to the Supreme Court.”

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From the 12/13/06 ABJ:


Smoking drifts back into area businesses
Owners complying with law say they are at a disadvantage

By Tracy Wheeler and Katie Byard
Beacon Journal staff writers


Liz Arn wants to do the right thing.

But as the co-owner of Arnie's pub on West Market Street, she has found "the right thing'' to be a difficult proposition in the face of Ohio's new smoking law.

Approved by voters in November, the law banned smoking as of Dec. 7 in virtually all enclosed public places, including restaurants, bars, bowling alleys and bingo parlors. However, the law contained no rules of enforcement.

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http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/living/16228149.htm?source=rss&channel=ohio_news

From the 12/13/06 Sandusky Register:


Smoking ban brush-off boosts bars' business
By CHAUNCEY ALCORN | Wednesday December 13 2006, 5:54am

SANDUSKY What many Sandusky area bar owners thought would send profits up in smoke has actually increased business.

Smokers are flicking their ashes on the ban because of a Cincinnati court's ruling against the Ohio Department of Health.

In a suit brought by Buckeye Liquor License Holders Association against the Ohio Department of Health, a Hamilton County court forbade the health department from enforcing the new smoking ban until it comes up with a plan for enforcement.

That plan may not be developed until June, according to the Erie County Health Department, and some local bar owners say they won't enforce the ban until then.

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http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2006/12/13/front/99721.txt

From the 12/13/06 Marion Star:


Smoking ban enacted, but it has no teeth
Rules not yet written as state receives more than 11,000 complaints of non-compliance

By KURT MOORE
The Marion Star


MARION - As of Thursday (Dec. 7), if you want to light up while dining out or stopping for a beer in the state of Ohio, you've got to take it outside.

That's state law, thanks to a majority of voters voting yes on Issue 5 during the Nov. 7 general election. That fact, however, is lost in a haze of confusion as the state launches discussions on how to enforce the law.

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http://www.marionstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061213/NEWS01/612130319/1002/rss01

From same:


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Smokers and non-smokers are expressing mixed feelings as a law prohibiting smoking in public places and places of employment takes effect.

For Marion resident Dave Osborn, it means a longer walk during breaks at work to get to a place where he is allowed to smoke.

Osborn said he wasn't that upset over the law, calling it good and bad.

"It's good because we need to quit smoking anyway," he said while buying cigarettes at United Smokes of America. "But I think there are bigger issues to look at."

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http://www.marionstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061213/NEWS01/612130321/1002/rss01
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« Reply #433 on: December 21, 2006, 02:18:37 AM »
From the 12/14/06 Parma Sun Post:


Non-smoking crusade ends with man's arrest
Thursday, December 14, 2006
Parma Sun Post


PARMA HTS. One man's crusade to single-handedly enforce Ohio's new smoking ban resulted in his being charged with disorderly conduct Sunday at a local bowling alley.

The suspect, a 22-year-old Richfield man, berated a barmaid in the lounge at Yorktown Lanes because he was upset people there were not honoring the smoking ban.

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http://www.cleveland.com/sun/parmasunpost/index.ssf?/base/cops-0/116611892733820.xml&coll=3

From the 12/14/06 Springfield News-Sun:


Smoking ban not snuffed out
By Justin Thompson
Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 13, 2006


Jim Vavakos fears a new smoking ban — and confusion over it — could smother his business.

"It's been a nightmare," said Vavakos, owner of Victory Lanes, 1906 Commerce Road.

His bowling alley, with 30-plus lanes and large bathrooms, makes it difficult to watch everyone. He said if people smoke in the bathroom without his knowledge, he would face penalties — fines he cannot afford to pay.

Read more:

Contact this reporter at (937) 328-0349 or at juthompson@coxohio.com

http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/12/13/sns121406smoking.html

From the 12/14/06 Garfield-Maple Sun:


Smoking ban drives debate
Thursday, December 14, 2006
By John Kametz
Garfield-Maple Sun


GARFIELD HEIGHTS The newly enacted statewide smoking ban for public places already is creating quite a stir here.

Although emotions for or against the ban continue to run high, local bars and establishments already are taking varying steps toward compliance.

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http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/116611856633820.xml&coll=3

From same:


Ban is boon for Signs by Tomorrow
Thursday, December 14, 2006
By Ken Baka
Garfield-Maple Sun


MAPLE HEIGHTS A smoke-free Ohio is lighting up Eric Hamilton's business.

Whether the smoke-free law helps bowling alleys, taverns and bingo parlors remains to be seen.

Hamilton is owner of Signs by Tomorrow, 20534 Southgate Park Blvd., Maple Heights. As of Tuesday, his shop took in "a couple of thousand" orders for either of two styles of adhesive signs he is reproducing according to state design guidelines. Case Western Reserve University and the Northeast Ohio Sewer District were among those ordering.
 
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http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/116611878533820.xml&coll=3

From the 12/14/06 Fairfield Echo:


Smoking ...
Fairfield residents speak out with their opinions on how the ban is being put into effect.

By Eric Schwartzberg
Staff Writer
Thursday, December 14, 2006


Enforcement of the Ohio smoking ban is on hold, but the law itself is not.

That's the message the Ohio Department of Health is sending to employers and bar and restaurant owners statewide.

"It's really been hard on us, the confusion of it all and them not sending out any information," said Cindy Bryant, manager of Reef Tavern in Fairfield.

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http://www.fairfield-echo.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/12/13/fe121406smokeup.html
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« Reply #434 on: December 21, 2006, 02:21:50 AM »
From the 12/15/06 Newark Advocate:


Some businesses flout smoking ban
Though not being enforced yet, health agency urges owners to start obeying

By JEN SCHERER
Advocate Reporter


NEWARK -- A blue haze still hangs in the air of some area businesses opting not to comply with the statewide smoking ban until it officially is enforced.

Though the statewide smoking ban went into effect last week, the state won't issue any warning letters or fines until the Ohio Department of Health has finalized its regulations. As a result, customers are finding some of their favorite haunts haven't taken away the ashtrays yet.

The Draft House on West Main Street in Newark is just one example.

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http://www.newarkadvocate.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061215/NEWS01/612150302/1002

From the 12/15/06 Maysville Ledger Independent:


Ohio smoking ban said to be causing confusion and uproar
By CARRIE CARLSON Staff Writer
Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:58 PM EST
 
 
Some ashtrays are still out in Brown and Adams counties, even after the Ohio statewide smoking ban took effect Dec. 7. Other businesses have cracked down, even though often reluctantly, to abide by the new law.

According to the law approved by voters in November, all Ohio businesses are required to remove ashtrays and post nonsmoking signs.

Rockin' Robins' Soda Shoppe in Ripley is one of the many businesses making the change. The soda shop was a smoking facility prior to Dec. 7, now the restaurant is smoke free.

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http://www.maysville-online.com/articles/2006/12/15/local_news/3162ban.txt
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« Reply #435 on: December 21, 2006, 02:28:30 AM »
From the 12/16/06 PD:


Air's still not clear at bars, restaurants
With smoking ban unenforced, owners let patrons light up to keep their business

Saturday, December 16, 2006
Harlan Spector
Plain Dealer Reporter


Dirty ashtrays were going for a quarter last week at Tick Tock Tavern, a well-known rib joint on Clifton Boulevard in Cleveland.

The bar sold them as gag souvenirs to mark the end of smoking.

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http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1166279445175470.xml&coll=2

From the 12/16/06 Lima News:


Still smoking
BY KIMBERLY R. SIMMONS - Dec. 16, 2006

SPENCERVILLE — It’s been a little over a week since the smoking ban went into effect on Dec. 7, and some restaurants and bars have not allowed patrons to smoke.
With the news that the law would not be enforced because of an agreement between attorneys for the state and the Ohio Licensed Beverage Association, some places are allowing patrons to light up.

“We saw the story in The Lima News that other places were allowing people to smoke so we put the ashtrays back out,” Betty Croft, co-owner of My Place, said.

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http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=33238

From the 12/16/06 Middletown Journal:


Smoker plans protest of ban
By Christopher Magan
Staff Writer
Saturday, December 16, 2006


FRANKLIN — Smokers will light up the city building parking lot Saturday to protest the new statewide smoking ban.

Andy Kopp, who is organizing the rally, hopes it will be a step toward having the ban declared unconstitutional.

"I don't think they'll be able to enforce it," he said. "It's like Prohibition."

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http://www.middletownjournal.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/12/16/mj121606smokeprotest.html

From the 12/16/06 Marietta Times:


Despite new law, business disobeys Ohio smoking ban
By Connie Cartmell ccartmell@mariettatimes.com

Regardless of what Ohio voters said in November, Jim Bauer, owner of the Riverside Bar & Lounge in Marietta is just saying “Yes,” to his customers.

Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em.

Bauer, who has owned the downtown tavern and lounge over two years, is among a small group of bar and restaurant owners around Ohio who have decided to leave the ashtrays out.

Some have chosen to defy voters, come what may.

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http://www.mariettatimes.com/news/story/new44_1216200610310.asp

From the 12/16/06 Wooster Daily Record:


Many smokers trying to quit with passage of new law
December 16, 2006
By JUNE CHANDLER-WHITE
Staff Writer


MILLERSBURG -- New Year"s and Issue 5 are giving Mark Woods a double whammy.

"I"ve got too many businesses right now to schedule," said Woods, who is tobacco cessation coordinator for Your Human Resource Center, which offers tobacco cessation programs in Wayne and Holmes counties.

January typically is a busy time of year for Woods, but this year, calls from companies and individuals started coming before November, when employers began wondering what the passage of Issue 5, the statewide indoor smoking ban, would mean for companies and their employees.

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http://www.the-daily-record.com/news/article/1180491
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #436 on: December 21, 2006, 02:32:44 AM »
From the 12/17/06 Blade:


State starts to sort out smoke-ban regulations
Rules to be enacted no later than June 7

By JIM PROVANCE
BLADE COLUMBUS BUREAU


COLUMBUS - Smokers could get an idea tomorrow of exactly how far they'll have to step away from entrances to bars and restaurants to avoid fines for violating Ohio's new public smoking ban.

Business owners may get a clue as to who will investigate complaints and how quickly fines would add up for multiple violations.

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http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061217/NEWS24/612170333/-1/NEWS

From the 12/17/06 DDN:


Smokers flare up against ban
Protesters staging rally in Franklin say the new state law violates their rights, threatens businesses.

By Christopher Magan
Staff Writer
Sunday, December 17, 2006


FRANKLIN — They were smoking on a not-so-low burn.

The chant at a rally protesting a new statewide smoking ban Saturday said it all.
 
"We're fed up! We're fed up!" Andy Kopp led about 30 smokers in the chant to wrap up the protest he organized at the Franklin city building parking lot.

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http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/12/16/ddn121706smokeprotest.html

From the 12/17/06 Warren Tribune Chronicle:


Sending smoke signals
By BILL RODGERS Tribune Chronicle

One day after Ohio’s new public smoking ban went into effect, a popular restaurant and bar in nearby Sharon, Pa., experienced its first-ever lines waiting for smoking seats.

That’s no surprise to Orangeville bar owner Kirk Cusick, who said he could see the indications the minute the new Ohio law passed at the polls last month.

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http://tribune-chronicle.com/articles.asp?articleID=12401
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« Reply #437 on: December 21, 2006, 02:35:55 AM »
From the 12/18/06 PD:


Hookah bars smoke out loopholes in ban
Monday, December 18, 2006
Chris Seper
Plain Dealer Reporter


Hookah bars, Middle Eastern-styled smoking clubs en vogue with college students and young professionals, are desperate to survive the state's anti-smoking law.

Many are selling even more tobacco products to qualify for a loophole in a law.

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http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1166434295142540.xml&coll=2

From the 12/18/06 Chillicothe Gazette:


Patrons still smoking
Health District still unsure how to enforce smoking ban

By JONA ISON
Gazette Staff Writer


The donuts at Crispie Creme Donut Shop aren't quite the same.

They're missing that hint of stale smoke - a taste I'd become used to over the last 27 years. The absence of smoking, due to the statewide smoking ban passed in November, has allowed the cinnamon and apple of my fritter to take the center stage where it should be.

Although that fritter was much more enjoyable, as a smoker, I did wonder how it would be to have a beer sans cigarette while socializing at the bar.

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http://www.chillicothegazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061218/NEWS01/612180310/1002/rss01
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« Reply #438 on: December 21, 2006, 02:43:02 AM »
From the AP, 12/19/06:


Parties air concerns at smoking session
Tuesday, December 19, 2006
Julie Carr Smyth
Associated Press


Columbus - Nursing homes, bowling alleys, VFW clubs, restaurants and city health departments all brought different concerns to a confab on Ohio's new smoking ban Monday.

Whether they liked or disliked the outcome of November's election, in which Ohio voters approved a statewide smoking ban, everyone had questions on the rules for carrying out the ban as drafted by the Ohio Department of Health.

Will unsightly no-smoking signs really have to be posted so abundantly, even in nursing homes?
 
Could employees of private clubs smoke on the premises if the clubs make them members?

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http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/11665212506650.xml&coll=2

From the 12/19/06 Dispatch:


Truckers breathe easier
Solo drivers exempted from smoking ban; bars, restaurants get bad news

Tuesday, December 19, 2006
James Nash
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 
Truckers no longer have to worry about being ticketed for smoking alone in their cabs, but restaurant and bar owners could be fined for allowing customers to smoke even if health inspectors don’t catch them in the act.

More than a month after Ohio voters banished smoking from most public spaces, the state Department of Health yesterday exempted commercial trucks from the ban but indicated that restaurants and bars could be cited even without health inspectors witnessing violations.

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http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2006/12/19/20061219-A1-00.html

From the 12/19/06 Blade:


OHIO SMOKING BAN
Social clubs glad, bars mad over draft rules

By JIM PROVANCE
BLADE COLUMBUS BUREAU


COLUMBUS — A first stab at writing rules for Ohio’s new smoking ban had private clubs like the Veterans of Foreign Wars applauding yesterday, but owners of bars and bowling alleys were fuming.

A wide array of groups affected by the clean indoor air law met for the second time to debate everything from the size of no-smoking signs to whether commercial truckers had to pull ashtrays from their dashboards.

The advisory panel is aiding the Ohio Department of Health in writing rules to fill gaps in the law approved by voters on Nov. 7. The department has until June 7 to complete the lengthy process, but hopes to finish by early spring.

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PROPOSED FINE SCHEDULE
(for violations within two-year period)

FOR BUSINESSES:
First violation: Warning letter
2nd violation: $100
3rd violation: $500
4th & subsequent violations: $2,500

FOR SMOKERS:
First violation: Warning letter
2nd & subsequent violations: $100

FOR RETALIATION AGAINST EMPLOYEE MAKING COMPLAINT:
First violation: Warning letter
Second violation: $1,000
Third & subsequent violations: $2,500

SOURCE: Ohio Department of Health


http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061219/NEWS24/61219001/-1/NEWS

From the 12/19/06 Ravenna Record-Courier:


Some bars still allowing cigarettes
Kent owners: Need to make money outweighs fines

By Matt Fredmonsky
Record-Courier staff writer


You could have walked into a Kent bar Saturday and been enveloped in a cloud of smoke -- or not -- depending on which pub you stopped in.

Kent bar owners, for now at least, see the decision to allow or ban smoking in their establishment as theirs to make because of what some are calling a loophole in Ohi' Smoke Free law.

"Voters passed the law on election day and Ohi' constitution requires the law take effect 30 days afterward," said Wendy Simpkins, a spokesperson for the Ohio Division of the American Cancer Society.

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http://www.recordpub.com/news/article/1190581

From the 12/19/06 Defiance Crescent-News:


Locally, some obeying smoking ban, some are not
December 19, 2006
By HEATHER BAUGHMAN
baughman@crescent-news.com


Ohi' smoking ban has been in place for two weeks, but not everyone is obeying the law.

While the Ohio Department of Health, which is implementing the ban as approved by voters statewide on Nov. 7, is not enforcing the law until the rules are set, it is still a rule that, by law, should not be broken.

"I' sort of like driving," explained ODH spokesman Kristopher Weiss. "When you come to a red light, you stop even though a police officer might not be there."

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http://www.crescent-news.com/news/article/1191611
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #439 on: December 21, 2006, 09:23:26 AM »
What happened to my post yesterday????
"I just bought a Rottweiler and I need a sign to warn people how dangerous it is. Ah, yes, here it is: "ONE WAY." So people will know if they step into my yard, there's only one way out--in a body bag from dog injuries."

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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #440 on: December 25, 2006, 08:37:00 PM »
The bevavior on the part of the bars is unethical, but not unexpected. It's a character flaw unique to the species Resterauteurius Minimus to revel in any situation the health department can't influence.

What is your beef with bar owners?
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #441 on: December 27, 2006, 02:24:14 PM »
I am encountering more and more people who wish they hadn't voted for issue 5, because they didn't realize how strict it was. A lot of people for instance didn't realize that hookah bars would be included, or what a "private club" was considered under the ban. Private clubs have to be nonprofit, and all employees have to be members of the club. A lot of clubs were under the impression that they would be exempted from the ban like vetrans lodges, but apparently thats not the case.

Also, the stipulations regarding tobacco shops is completely ridiculous. 80% of revenue has to come from tobacco in order to allow smoking, which is higher than the stipulation under the Columbus ban as well as other cities. I don't have the facts for certain, but I believe 80% is a higher requirement than New York and California, based on my observations when traveling there. Another ridiculous stipulation of the ban is that existing tobacco shops cannot expand their space if they are not a free standing building, and any new shops must be free standing; what a way to hinder small business development in higher density areas if you ask me.

It will also be interesting to see what happens when the weather warms up and people start to use outdoor patios, because i have a feeling there will be a lot of confusion about allowing smoking there. I feel like there will be a lot of debate because of the proximity to entrances and servers (employees) providing table service. A lot of places for instance open up the inside completely to the outside patios, and I think the anti-smoking contigent will protest permitting smoking on a lot of patios.

And in my opinion, there honestly wasn't enough talk about "rights" in the deliberation prior to the election; rights of business owners, rights of individuals. From a background in political theory, I find it dangerous to formaly institute "health" upon the general public for one. And dangerous to attempt to remove people and their lifestyle from public presence for second. The ban also undermines culture. Hookahs are certainly a cultural practice for one, and smoking cigarettes is also a cultural practice. Smoking is a more regular practice in rural areas or certain neighborhoods in urban areas and indeed part of the culture. Smoking culture is not uniform throughout the state, and this law undermines it. 

And we all know there is huge confusion/controversy over enforcement, which is public administration nightmare.

Honestly, I think that the stricter Smoke Free Ohio and its supporters push for interpretation and enforcement of issue 5, the public will advocate its repeal. Only 58% supported issue 5 in November. I guess we'll see what happens in June.  
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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #442 on: December 27, 2006, 02:34:57 PM »
The bevavior on the part of the bars is unethical, but not unexpected. It's a character flaw unique to the species Resterauteurius Minimus to revel in any situation the health department can't influence.

What is your beef with bar owners?

None. I used to be one. Well, a cafe owner (no booze). I ran a clean place, but the inspector from the health department would always find something on his regular visit, no matter how small, no matter how inconsequential. Sometimes I would challenge the inspector, and if he admitted that it was not critical, and that there was no penalty for not fixing it, I wouldn't fix it. A teeny, tiny act of defiance, but a satisfying act nonetheless.
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« Reply #443 on: December 27, 2006, 08:41:05 PM »
I am encountering more and more people who wish they hadn't voted for issue 5, because they didn't realize how strict it was.

I've heard this statement many times now.  Why would you vote for something if you didn't know what you were voting for???  The text of the issue was available to read for a while before election day and the language was on the ballot.  Do people not even bother to read?  It's disturbing.

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« Reply #444 on: December 27, 2006, 10:14:08 PM »
Some anecdotal evidence suggests voters were unaware of the scope and methods of implementation of the statewide ban on smoking in public places. Now that the ban has passed, has your opinion changed?
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« Reply #445 on: December 27, 2006, 11:23:08 PM »
I say it is a giant step forward for Ohio to take this kind of proactive step for anything!!!

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« Reply #446 on: December 27, 2006, 11:40:01 PM »
Ditto.

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(Isaacs, Barbara. "Study finds ban reduced smoking in Lexington." Herald-Leader [Lexington] 12 Dec. 2006.)
An estimated 16,467 Lexington adults stubbed out their cigarettes for good in the first 20 months after the citywide indoor smoking ban took effect. [...] Lexington's percentage of adult smokers dropped by nearly one-third since Lexington's indoor smoking ban was implemented in April 2004, according to UK College of Nursing researchers, who released their study yesterday. [...] Before the smoking ban, federal health surveys found that 25.7 percent of Fayette County adults smoked. In the months after the smoking ban was implemented, just 17.5 percent of Fayette County adults reported being smokers. [...] "What has been really interesting is how powerful this ordinance has been here," said Ellen Hahn, a UK professor of nursing who pushed for the smoking ban and co-authored the report. "A 32 percent drop is a huge thing." [...] "I expected there would be a decline," Hahn said of the smoking rate. "But not the magnitude that it is."



An earlier study by the university also found that business revenues did not drop as a result of a smoking ban (for Lexington, Kentucky). A poll in Albuquerque, New Mexico mirrored this data, with 96% of businesses reporting in that revenue did not drop as a result of their smoking ban (Shope, Tamara N. "Poll: Revenues up since smoke ban." Albuquerque Tribune. 14 Feb. 2005.)



Also in the original article at top that I cited from,

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The researchers compared federal health data from Lexington to that of five other counties with similar education levels but without smoke-free laws at the time: Boone, Hardin, Kenton, Oldham and Woodford. While the smoking rate plummeted in Lexington, the percentage of smokers in the five comparison counties was unchanged during the time before and after implementation of Lexington's smoke-free law, averaging 27.6 percent in those counties.



But, but, but, but.... we have an opponent. This lady, who I called to verify that this is true, said that she had "hundreds of documents" that prove that "most everyone" smokes. She doesn't believe in a "government" study (it was a non-partisan study done by the university). It is also not surprising that she is a smoker herself and is reluctant to quit, stating that, "there is no danger in smoking cigarettes. I've smoked for years and it hasn't done anything to me."

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Maryetta Ables, a West Virginia woman who is president of FORCES Inc., which stands for Fight Ordinances and Restrictions to Control and Eliminate Smoking, said she doubts the accuracy of the data and the ability of smoking restrictions to reduce smoking.

She called most government data related to smoking "baldfaced lies."

"I know they don't work," Ables said of smoking bans. "And if you look around, you'll see they don't, too."

She estimates that between 50 percent and 70 percent of adults in Lexington currently smoke.

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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #447 on: December 28, 2006, 08:54:06 AM »
As a non-smoker, I support the ban.  I used to live in Florida - a state that passed a statewide smoking ban a few years ago.  There was just as much debate there as there is here now - with all the same arguments on both sides (government taking away our rights, your right to swing you fist ends at my nose, etc.)  People there didn't think the ban would stick.  And guess what - eventually people adjusted and now it isn't even an issue.  Not to say that everybody now suddenly supports it, but everybody has adjusted. 

I was just in Mexico last week - where it is still acceptable to smoke in hotel lobbys and inside shopping malls.  I always find it strange to see people smoking in these places that have gone smoke-free in the states a long time ago.  And that is the point - eventually just like the idea of smoking in an airplane, hospital, courthouse, shopping mall, classroom (all places that were once acceptable places to smoke), the idea of smoking in a restaurant and even a bar will soon become a foreign idea, and people will adjust.

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« Reply #448 on: December 28, 2006, 09:01:51 AM »
I was just in Mexico last week - where it is still acceptable to smoke in hotel lobbys and inside shopping malls.  I always find it strange to see people smoking in these places that have gone smoke-free in the states a long time ago.  And that is the point - eventually just like the idea of smoking in an airplane, hospital, courthouse, shopping mall, classroom (all places that were once acceptable places to smoke), the idea of smoking in a restaurant and even a bar will soon become a foreign idea, and people will adjust.

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« Reply #449 on: December 28, 2006, 09:04:55 AM »
I was just in Mexico last week - where it is still acceptable to smoke in hotel lobbys and inside shopping malls.  I always find it strange to see people smoking in these places that have gone smoke-free in the states a long time ago.  And that is the point - eventually just like the idea of smoking in an airplane, hospital, courthouse, shopping mall, classroom (all places that were once acceptable places to smoke), the idea of smoking in a restaurant and even a bar will soon become a foreign idea, and people will adjust.

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« Reply #450 on: December 28, 2006, 09:24:56 AM »
I go to McGuffy's twice a week in Riverside. They are enforcing the smoking ban. The patrons have stayed at about the same level it was before the smoking ban. Plus, there are several bars nearby that are allowing smoking. At first, there were a lot of complaints, but now I don't here any complaining and smokers are doing what they are supposed to be doing. So yes, Ohio and the people will adjust.
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« Reply #451 on: December 28, 2006, 12:27:06 PM »
I didn't like either of the two options presented for vote.

The version backed by the tobacco industry was a bit more reasonable, but the language related to changing the state constitution, and over turning existing, more stringent smoking bans made it too dumb to vote for.

The version backed by the American Cancer Society (the one that passed) is too restrictive.  It seems that there should at least be some venues that should be ale to permit indoor smoking.  Some bars, cigar bars, private clubs like country clubs and the VFW, etc.

Don't get me wrong.  I love that any place where I don't really have a choice to be is going to be smoke free.  Offices, lobby areas, airports, stores. I just think the law that passed went a bit too far.

For the record.  I don't smoke cigarettes, but I love my occasional cigar. 


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« Reply #452 on: December 28, 2006, 02:58:16 PM »
i don't own a tobacco shop, but 80% of revenues from tobacco doesn't seem like a lofty goal. I mean what else can a tobacco shop sell? Doilies?

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Re: Ohio smoking ban
« Reply #453 on: December 28, 2006, 03:59:44 PM »
i don't own a tobacco shop, but 80% of revenues from tobacco doesn't seem like a lofty goal. I mean what else can a tobacco shop sell? Doilies?

Bongs, lottery tickets, pop, chips, bongs, lighters, magazines, candy, bongs, CDs, newspapers, ashtrays, bongs...
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« Reply #454 on: December 28, 2006, 04:37:52 PM »
Bongs,

That's "tobacco water pipe" to you, mister!

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