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"authentically MPMF"

That went out the door a long time ago, along with when bands were judged for MPMF by a panel of local people involved in the Cincinnati music scene via Sonicbids.

Just sayin'.
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I went down and watched Band of Horses from the parking garage for $6. Totally worth it. The festival set up looked like a fortress- completely lacking any sort of ambiance at all. There was no art place making type of things anywhere, just a lousy parking lot surrounded by fencing. The 12th Street Midway was always one of my favorite parts of the festival. I loved going to the different trucks and doing the different activities in each. That's totally gone now. It just seems really bland and I'll thought out.

There is a way to grow the festival away from some of the smaller bars, while still maintaining the vibe that so many people loved about MPMF. I think a barbell type shape from Washington Park to Ziegler Park (or current parking lot) where you have dual villages and bigger stages in those locations, and other smaller venues like Memorial Hall, some of the bars on Main, etc. I think that'd be pretty cool and keep it authentically MPMF. Something needs to improve over this current set up.
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Mass Transit / Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Last post by taestell on Yesterday at 11:53:12 PM »
I bought the all day pass, but another passenger told me I would never have to show it or swipe it.  REALLY? WTF!

I have seen plenty of officers riding the streetcar but almost never asking people to show their ticket. Even if they're not handing out fines yet, I think people would feel a lot better about the streetcar if they got asked to show their fare.

I assume day passes are transferable?

Probably not, technically.
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Exactly. I did really enjoy the format for the past several years though. It was the best of both worlds. We still had big stages at Washington Park and Christian Moerlein, but you could also could sneak away to see an intimate show at Arnold's or MOTR. We had touring national acts but also a ton of local bands.
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Totally agreed! It's a bit of Columbus syndrome and "when I discovered it was when it was at its best". with each version it has filled the role that it has needed to fill. I mean I'm not certain what year this would have been,  06 or 07, but nearly every venue was in a closed bar, storefront, etc.  I'd say the midpoint of the last few years is pretty unrecognizable from that!
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Mass Transit / Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Last post by taestell on Yesterday at 11:28:27 PM »
There's no reason to have fares based on the honor system if you have platforms that can be secured via turnstiles. That wouldn't work with streetcars, but it works for subways/elevated rail like Chicago and NYC have.  There's also the reality that on a very crowded train, it's next to impossible for a fare collector to move around and check everyone's tickets. I can't imagine someone trying to move through a 6 train in NYC and check tickets at rush hour - it might be physically impossible.

On a somewhat related note, Taipei has an interesting setup with paid turnstiles to both enter and exit. You scan a card or token on your way in, and then again on your way out. This allows them to easily charge more for longer trips because your card or token indicates where your origin was.

Exactly, @Ram23, you made the other point that I forgot to make. If you have a subway or el system, you can install turnstiles and make sure that people can't get onto the platforms unless they pay their fare. With streetcars and most light rail systems, you can't do that. So you either have to check fares at the door (which would make it just as slow as a bus) or you go with the honor system. If you have already installed the turnstile infrastructure, like DC and NYC have, why would you ever abandon it and go back to the honor system?
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Sunday was the only night I was interested in and seemed to be a pretty solid crowd. When running out to get a drink before band of horses lots of folks coming in with purchased tickets still. While I've enjoyed many midpoints in the past can we please stop romanticizing how great it was back in the day.  I remember working the door at kaldis and having to turn people away who were just trying to get coffee or a curried chicken burrito and how pissed they would be that they couldn't hang in there neighborhood spot.  Basically people have been complaining about it in every iteration of the many that have existed of mpmf.
I really do think that the original iteration of MPMF had run its course - and the original founders had one goal in mind when starting MPMF 15 years ago, and that was to help revitalize OTR and the city. I'd say that mission was accomplished a long time ago. Heck, even when CityBeat took over it changed too - actually having nationally known bands play, among other things. Change is inevitable, that's just something we have to accept.

I attended two out of three days this year and I had a good time. Are there things MEMI needs to work on? Sure. But for a complete revamp it certainly was not horrible. I'm just glad that there is an event like this that has both national and local acts in Cincinnati.
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Was really disappointed with format and lineup this year have gone last 4 yrs, not going this year.
I'd like to know why the lineup is disappointing. I've discovered a lot of great music this weekend - both local and national - thanks to MidPoint.
I've always been more into the electronic or more experimental bands that I've seen a lot of there in the last few years. Was really interested in the afro beat and jazz stuff that was going to be there this year but didn't feel was worth 50 bucks a day for that and local bands that I like and can see anytime of the year. Last year there were literally 10 bands I wanted to see each of the 3 days, this year there were 3-4 on Fri and 2 Sat. I forgot I was pissed to see they didn't have any passes/tickets for single venues they have in the past because I would have done that on Sat if it had been available.
Okay, that's cool. Just curious what your thoughts were.
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Mass Transit / Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Last post by neilworms on Yesterday at 11:04:14 PM »
If NYC, Chicago, LA, or DC had an honor system for their subways, I imagine there would be a lot more fare evasion. Those systems carry so many passengers that it would be impossible for fare inspectors to verify a meaningful percentage of them. It might work in European countries, but I suspect that they get more of their operating expenses funded by the government and are less dependent on fares. (Which would be great in the U.S., but that's another discussion.)

LA had an honor system until a few years ago btw, they did away with it: https://www.metro.net/riding/gate-latching/
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Mass Transit / Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Last post by Ram23 on Yesterday at 11:04:04 PM »
There's no reason to have fares based on the honor system if you have platforms that can be secured via turnstiles. That wouldn't work with streetcars, but it works for subways/elevated rail like Chicago and NYC have.  There's also the reality that on a very crowded train, it's next to impossible for a fare collector to move around and check everyone's tickets. I can't imagine someone trying to move through a 6 train in NYC and check tickets at rush hour - it might be physically impossible.

On a somewhat related note, Taipei has an interesting setup with paid turnstiles to both enter and exit. You scan a card or token on your way in, and then again on your way out. This allows them to easily charge more for longer trips because your card or token indicates where your origin was.
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