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Mr Sparkle
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I would show how were the 2nd largest metro without any form of passenger rail...Then list all the cities around our size or smaller that have rail.
Amtrak?
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Civvik
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^Sorry, a train that rolls through the ass end of the history museum at 3 in the morning isn't really "rail service." More like a Tim Burton movie plot.
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Flyboy41
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In the past two days both major interstates through Cincinnati have been brought to a standstill b/c of accidents. I-71 was turned into a parking lot during rush hour b/c of a chemical spill and I-75 had an accident yesterday which sent a lot of people to I-71, which clogged it up even more. My point is, it would be nice if many of those folks who work downtown and live in the 'burbs had an option for getting to and from work that didn't involve their cars.
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xumelanie
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My point is, it would be nice if many of those folks who work downtown and live in the 'burbs had an option for getting to and from work that didn't involve their cars.
And, it would also be nice for those who live downtown but going to the burbs. We met up with family last night for dinner, and it was a nightmare. We skipped I71, but all the roads were congested with people trying to avoid the highways as well. It took at least 70 minutes to get to the Kenwood Mall area. It would have been nice to have taken light rail instead. One argument people use against public transportation is that it takes too long and driving is just faster. I don't understand how sitting in traffic saves anyone time.
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GCrites80s
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I always like it when it snows and both the Kenwood Cut and the Cut in the Hill are totally toast. It's so awesome that there's no other way to get around than by car.
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Civvik
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Don't worry, Cincinnati is far from alone.
Orlando's highways are almost perpetually at a standstill, especially I-4. They just passed Cincinnati in metro population and are sitting on Dayton-sized infrastructure. And no way to pay for more, especially now. The central nexus of Orlando highways has an interchange lane that is one lane wide. This backs up traffic for 6 miles in both directions.
Atlanta is a mess. Always. Even with rail. MARTA in Atlanta is like trying to save a man with a triple bypass when every artery in his body just exploded.
Chicago? Hahaha. YOU drive on the Kennedy any time before 2 in the morning. And they have more rail than anyone but New York. If it's not breaking down or plunging off the tracks.
It's not just Cincinnati that is a mess. America is a mess. We need three things to happen at once: Denser, better planned communities; rail infrastructure; the money to pay for it all.
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thomasbw
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Don't worry, Cincinnati is far from alone.
Orlando's highways are almost perpetually at a standstill, especially I-4. They just passed Cincinnati in metro population and are sitting on Dayton-sized infrastructure. And no way to pay for more, especially now. The central nexus of Orlando highways has an interchange lane that is one lane wide. This backs up traffic for 6 miles in both directions.
Atlanta is a mess. Always. Even with rail. MARTA in Atlanta is like trying to save a man with a triple bypass when every artery in his body just exploded.
Chicago? Hahaha. YOU drive on the Kennedy any time before 2 in the morning. And they have more rail than anyone but New York. If it's not breaking down or plunging off the tracks.
It's not just Cincinnati that is a mess. America is a mess. We need three things to happen at once: Denser, better planned communities; rail infrastructure; the money to pay for it all.
Orlando is close, but i don't think they have passed Cincinnati yet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas
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John Schneider
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Economists have concluded that drivers who face uncertainty due to weather or accidents value their time lost due to these kinds of incidents at up to four times what they value their time in a non-eventful commute. As truck traffic increase by 2.5 times on I-75 over the next 25 years, there will be more events like this and more demand for rail running on its own guideway and unaffected by weather or accidents.
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Civvik
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Don't worry, Cincinnati is far from alone.
Orlando's highways are almost perpetually at a standstill, especially I-4. They just passed Cincinnati in metro population and are sitting on Dayton-sized infrastructure. And no way to pay for more, especially now. The central nexus of Orlando highways has an interchange lane that is one lane wide. This backs up traffic for 6 miles in both directions.
Atlanta is a mess. Always. Even with rail. MARTA in Atlanta is like trying to save a man with a triple bypass when every artery in his body just exploded.
Chicago? Hahaha. YOU drive on the Kennedy any time before 2 in the morning. And they have more rail than anyone but New York. If it's not breaking down or plunging off the tracks.
It's not just Cincinnati that is a mess. America is a mess. We need three things to happen at once: Denser, better planned communities; rail infrastructure; the money to pay for it all.
Orlando is close, but i don't think they have passed Cincinnati yet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas
I was using CSA, not MSA. http://www.census.gov/popest/metro/tables/2008/CBSA-EST2008-02.xlsEither way, I wouldn't be surprised if Orlando starts leveling off. Florida is a mess.
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unusualfire
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Just wait until the 75 widening starts. They are going to have to reduce the lanes. Too bad this town don't have another other options.
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LincolnKennedy
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^Here's an example of an actual federal project that, aside from perhaps a couple of reconfigured interchanges, our officials should have been saying they absolutely don't want.
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Eigth and State
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"As truck traffic increase by 2.5 times on I-75 over the next 25 years..."
I doubt it. Projections say that petroleum production is going to decrease from here on out.
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