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Re: Cleveland: Tremont Developments
« Reply #770 on: September 02, 2016, 10:06:31 AM »
^I absolutely love that building.  Hopefully someone can give it the TLC it deserves one day.

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« Reply #771 on: September 02, 2016, 10:50:49 AM »
I'm not sure it's abandoned - just severely neglected.

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« Reply #772 on: September 02, 2016, 12:45:46 PM »
Wasn't that a religious private school in there?

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« Reply #773 on: September 02, 2016, 07:13:57 PM »
UrbanOhio, LLC? Who's in?
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« Reply #774 on: September 02, 2016, 08:43:18 PM »
Count me in.

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« Reply #775 on: September 02, 2016, 09:54:35 PM »
CLE central catholic.  its closed now?

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« Reply #776 on: September 02, 2016, 11:53:48 PM »
CLE central catholic.  its closed now?

Cleveland Central Catholic is in Slavic Village

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« Reply #777 on: September 03, 2016, 12:01:22 AM »
Cleveland Central Catholic used to be spread across several facilities, including the old St. Michael school building on Scranton. Looks like they consolidated in Slavic Village in 2003: http://www.centralcatholichs.org/content/history-cleveland-central-catholic
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« Reply #778 on: September 26, 2016, 09:20:08 AM »
Has anyone heard any new news about Climb Zion, a rock climbing gym that was being developed at Zion United Church of Christ, 2716 W14th Street? The only news I can find is from Feb 9, 2015 where they were hoping to be open in early 2016.

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/climbzion020915.aspx

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« Reply #779 on: September 26, 2016, 01:33:38 PM »
Has anyone heard any new news about Climb Zion, a rock climbing gym that was being developed at Zion United Church of Christ, 2716 W14th Street? The only news I can find is from Feb 9, 2015 where they were hoping to be open in early 2016.

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/climbzion020915.aspx

Last I heard the deal fell through but there are rumors of a rock climbing gym being built in the back half of the building that houses 5th 3rd bank on Professor and 10th.

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« Reply #780 on: September 26, 2016, 05:32:48 PM »
Has anyone heard any new news about Climb Zion, a rock climbing gym that was being developed at Zion United Church of Christ, 2716 W14th Street? The only news I can find is from Feb 9, 2015 where they were hoping to be open in early 2016.

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/climbzion020915.aspx

Yeah, rock climbing is dead at Zion, but expect something else in the near future.
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« Reply #781 on: September 27, 2016, 08:28:41 AM »
Has anyone heard any new news about Climb Zion, a rock climbing gym that was being developed at Zion United Church of Christ, 2716 W14th Street? The only news I can find is from Feb 9, 2015 where they were hoping to be open in early 2016.

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/climbzion020915.aspx

Yeah, rock climbing is dead at Zion, but expect something else in the near future.

Any idea how soon? I love climbing but being in Westlake means the drive out to Cleveland Rock Gym is a bit further than I would like.

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« Reply #782 on: September 27, 2016, 08:36:31 AM »
Has anyone heard any new news about Climb Zion, a rock climbing gym that was being developed at Zion United Church of Christ, 2716 W14th Street? The only news I can find is from Feb 9, 2015 where they were hoping to be open in early 2016.

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/climbzion020915.aspx

Yeah, rock climbing is dead at Zion, but expect something else in the near future.

Any idea how soon? I love climbing but being in Westlake means the drive out to Cleveland Rock Gym is a bit further than I would like.

Sorry, I meant "something else" as in something else is happening with Zion.
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« Reply #783 on: September 28, 2016, 02:46:47 PM »
Looks like this is proposed for the corner of West 6th and Novak Alley where a garage made of concrete blocks now stands....

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr10-10-2016.pdf

Board of Zoning Appeals
MONDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2016

9:30
Calendar No. 16-219: 2176 West 6th Street Ward 3
Kerry McCormack
11 Notices
Jasmine Boutros, owner, proposes to erect a 20’ x 45’ new four story, two family house in a B1 MultiFamily
Residential District. The owner appeals for relief from the following sections of the Cleveland
Codified Ordinances:
1. Section 355.04 which states that the minimum lot area required is 6,000 square feet and the
appellant is proposing 2,500 square feet. This section also states that the maximum gross
floor area shall not exceed 50% of lot size or in this case 1,250 square feet and the appellant
is proposing 2,784 square feet.
2. Section 357.09(b)(2)(A) which states that no building shall be less than 10’ from a main
structure on an adjoining lot where 6’ and 5’ are proposed. The total width of Interior Side
yards on same premises shall not be less 10’ and the appellant is proposing 5’
3. Section 357.09(b)(2)(C) which states that the required interior side yard is 8’ where the
appellant is proposing 2’ and 3’. (Filed August 5, 2016)
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Re: Cleveland: Tremont Developments
« Reply #784 on: September 28, 2016, 03:51:54 PM »
Has anyone heard any new news about Climb Zion, a rock climbing gym that was being developed at Zion United Church of Christ, 2716 W14th Street? The only news I can find is from Feb 9, 2015 where they were hoping to be open in early 2016.

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/climbzion020915.aspx

Yeah, rock climbing is dead at Zion, but expect something else in the near future.

Any idea how soon? I love climbing but being in Westlake means the drive out to Cleveland Rock Gym is a bit further than I would like.

Sorry, I meant "something else" as in something else is happening with Zion.

This is intriguing to me. I'd love to see some life brought to that building again. Though I'm still pretty disappointed the Zion Climbing Gym project never happened. It was a pretty cool and unique plan.

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Re: Cleveland: Tremont Developments
« Reply #785 on: September 28, 2016, 07:52:40 PM »
Looks like this is proposed for the corner of West 6th and Novak Alley where a garage made of concrete blocks now stands....

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr10-10-2016.pdf

Board of Zoning Appeals
MONDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2016

9:30
Calendar No. 16-219: 2176 West 6th Street Ward 3
Kerry McCormack
11 Notices
Jasmine Boutros, owner, proposes to erect a 20’ x 45’ new four story, two family house in a B1 MultiFamily
Residential District. The owner appeals for relief from the following sections of the Cleveland
Codified Ordinances:
1. Section 355.04 which states that the minimum lot area required is 6,000 square feet and the
appellant is proposing 2,500 square feet. This section also states that the maximum gross
floor area shall not exceed 50% of lot size or in this case 1,250 square feet and the appellant
is proposing 2,784 square feet.
2. Section 357.09(b)(2)(A) which states that no building shall be less than 10’ from a main
structure on an adjoining lot where 6’ and 5’ are proposed. The total width of Interior Side
yards on same premises shall not be less 10’ and the appellant is proposing 5’
3. Section 357.09(b)(2)(C) which states that the required interior side yard is 8’ where the
appellant is proposing 2’ and 3’. (Filed August 5, 2016)

Turns out the parcel is on the other side of West 6th, six parcels north from Literary Street. The parcel is 004-18-041. The owner's name, Jasmine Boutros, sounded familiar. Turns out she's not only owner. Another name is listed with hers in county records as a co-owner -- Metro Health CEO Akram Boutros. Turns out they are father and daughter. Their tax mailing address is 2017 E 9TH ST, SKY 13, CLEVELAND, OH 44115. They bought the property last March from the city's Land Reutilization Program with a quit claim deed. No dollar amount is shown for the sale. How does one buy property from the Land Reutilization Program?

EDIT -- Wonder why the City Planning Commission didn't list him too as an owner in the application for a variance?
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« Reply #786 on: September 29, 2016, 12:43:25 AM »
"How does one buy property from the Land Reutilization Program?"

I tried to buy a property on Bridge Avenue about ten years ago from the Cleveland Land Bank. At that time, it was fairly simple, in theory. The city has lists of the properties it owns with minimum prices, usually amounting to taxes owed by the previous owner and city's cost to acquire and clear the property. The buyer makes an offer with a promise to develop the property within ... a year? I forget the exact time. If there are no opposing bids, you get the land.

The problem is the Councilmen's Neighborhood Committees are part of the process and can delay or derail your bid by putting a reservation on the property. When I looked, most of the really desirable parcels were "reserved" and had been reserved for periods of time far exceeding the time allowed for development.

Things may have changed since my attempt; I found it frustrating.

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« Reply #787 on: September 29, 2016, 08:32:01 AM »
^^If they were trying to hide something, seems unlikely thy would have purchased the property under their own names. Available county land bank properties are listed by brokers and also shown (with list price) on the land bank's web site: http://www.cuyahogalandbank.org/properties.php

^FYI, you may know this, but in case others don't, the Cleveland Land Bank is entirely separate from the County Land Bank.
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« Reply #788 on: September 29, 2016, 12:17:52 PM »
^FYI, you may know this, but in case others don't, the Cleveland Land Bank is entirely separate from the County Land Bank.

Right. My experience was only with the city. The county didn't operate a land bank at the time.

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« Reply #789 on: October 30, 2016, 02:29:10 PM »
Saw a blurb on block clubs presentations in the Inside Tremont monthly newspaper and it stated that developer Brian McCreary is proposing a 25 unit apartment building at the SW corner of W7th and Jefferson. Hadn't heard of this before. There is also another project of 10 town homes and commercial building proposed for the NE corner of W5th and Jefferson. Heating up on the east side of Tremont.
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« Reply #790 on: October 30, 2016, 07:35:48 PM »
So is Shaker Cycle going to come down?  Too bad, though it is in bad shape.

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« Reply #791 on: October 30, 2016, 10:25:26 PM »
^ That was the plan last I heard. The building with Shaker Cycle and empty parcel behind it changed hands about a year ago.

The apartment building at 7th/Jefferson would be 4 stories at the bottom of the hill along 7th and 3 stories at the top. The rendering I saw was contemporary, all masonry -- mostly red brick with tan accents (lintels and garage level for example).

The block club recaps in the Tremont newsletter are always interesting. Somebody was asking about the Zion church on West 14th. Last month's newsletter mentioned a presentation from Horton Harper architects with Brickhaus developers -- a full redevelopment play with apartments and condos.

Also, again from the newsletter, the Lincoln condo building proposed for Scranton and Kenilworth was delayed apparently due to construction costs. I wasn't surprised when I read that. The for-sale listings were removed from MLS a week or two ago.

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« Reply #792 on: November 01, 2016, 06:30:21 PM »
Some final pictures of the Tremont Black townhomes at the corner of W 10th and Fairfield -- 2170 West 10th, if you want to look up the address on Google Maps. Attached is a before picture of the gas station and red brick house that was demolished. They are still doing interior work on most of them, but several of the units are already occupied.

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« Reply #793 on: November 02, 2016, 12:57:40 PM »
The last 3 units of "Starkweather Place" were built over the summer/fall. This is the Sutton development at W. 7th and Starkweather. They are finishing up the interior and landscaping now. The entire site is now built-out, about 12-15 units total. These pictures are from earlier this week.
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« Reply #794 on: November 02, 2016, 01:07:13 PM »
A group of 4 townhomes were proposed last year for the corner of W. 7th and University Ct right across the street from Starkweather Place. The project has since been named "Skyline 7th". They broke ground last week and started foundation work. Attached is a before picture from Google Streetview showing the empty lot and yellow house that was demolished. Also a rendering pulled from their website. Not much to see yet otherwise.

http://www.lngrealty.com/cleveland/183850.html

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« Reply #795 on: November 02, 2016, 01:18:43 PM »
An update on the townhomes at the corner of Marquardt and W. 6th. Attached is a rendering and some construction updates. Just a note, they are actually planning 2 more units fronting W. 7th with the same design. In the picture "marquardt4" I marked up with red lines where the 2 additional units will go. All of them use the same shared access driveway.

Also in a couple of the pictures you'll see a foundation being built behind the townhomes stretching from W. 7th to 6th. This is an unrelated project. It's a large single family home facing 7th with a garage and upstairs apartment fronting W. 6th.

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« Reply #796 on: November 02, 2016, 01:23:09 PM »
^I love that last group of townhouses. A fun, almost cartoony shout-out to traditional gable-front frame houses in the neighborhood, but without any fakey imitation. My favorite of the group.
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« Reply #797 on: November 02, 2016, 01:43:32 PM »
^ I agree. Cartoony is a great way to put it.

And last but not least, "Chelsea Point" townhomes off Auburn Ave near W. 14th -- 7 units, 4 stories with a single car garage, and a sea of asphalt stretching from Auburn all the way to the townhomes.

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« Reply #798 on: November 02, 2016, 01:47:45 PM »
I almost forgot! Here is Tony's on Professor Ave after their facade re-do this summer. It lights up bright blue at night. :-o

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« Reply #799 on: November 02, 2016, 01:55:40 PM »
Looks like a child designed that in Minecraft.  "Look Daddy, I made your building into a castle!" 

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« Reply #800 on: November 02, 2016, 02:31:05 PM »
Looks like a child designed that in Minecraft.  "Look Daddy, I made your building into a castle!" 

Probably not far from it. Is that shutter really necessary?

Black turned out better than I thought it would from the renderings. Still not sure how much I like it, will have to see in person.

Overall I hope people can appreciate the design and money being put into some of these and lack thereof on others. I think the difference is pretty noticeable.

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« Reply #801 on: Today at 12:39:01 PM »
So is Shaker Cycle going to come down?  Too bad, though it is in bad shape.

The site plan for the Shaker Cycle building and rear parcel at West 5th and Jefferson was posted to Zillow. It shows a small mixed-use building at the corner with 10 town homes behind it.

Aerial: http://photos.zillowstatic.com/p_f/ISe0939dje3nrq1000000000.jpg
Site plan: http://photos.zillowstatic.com/p_f/ISatglpzhmmpjq1000000000.jpg
Town home listing: http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2387-W-5-H-H-Cleveland-OH-44113/2096153043_zpid/

I am a little surprised. A 3-4 story condo building with underground parking would have fit perfectly here. I don't know if there was push-back from the neighbors but the rumblings when the building sold was for a larger apartment building.
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« Reply #802 on: Today at 01:11:45 PM »
"Rebuilt"? Is that the same as "renovated" or are they doing something more extensive?

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