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Ohio High School Football: General News & Discussion
« on: March 21, 2006, 01:33:48 AM »
http://columbus.bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2006/03/20/daily8.html 

Sports Commission bids for H.S. football championships
Business First of Columbus - 9:27 AM EST Tuesday

The Greater Columbus Sports Commission hopes to hit paydirt with its proposal to bring the state's high school football championship games to Central Ohio.

The commission said Monday it has submitted a bid to the Ohio High School Athletic Association to host the title games from 2007 to 2009 at Crew Stadium and Dublin Coffman High School. The Division I, II, III and IV championships would be played in 22,500-seat Crew Stadium. The Division V and VI contests would be at Coffman, whose stadium can handle up to 10,000 spectators.

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Re: Ohio High School Football: General News & Discussion
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2006, 04:29:59 AM »
so is Cincinnati and Cleveland...
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Re: Ohio High School Football: General News & Discussion
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2006, 04:34:18 AM »
Columbus is getting gready, you've got basketball and the Buckeyes, why steal from two cities that are defined by football? The income/recognition to Columbus will be so minimal compared to the impact seen in Canton and Massillon, I can't see why Columbus even cares. This really ticks me off, and I'm not even much of a football fan.
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2006, 11:42:53 AM »
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Ohio finals here?
Bengals, county bid on '07-09 prep title games

BY TOM GROESCHEN | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

Local football fans who have long complained about the long drive to watch their teams play for state titles may soon get relief.

Hamilton County and the Bengals have officially entered the bidding to host the Ohio High School Athletic Association state football championship games.

Paul Brown Stadium would host the six Ohio title games (Divisions I-VI) from 2007-09. There would be an option for 2010-11.

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Re: Ohio High School Football: General News & Discussion
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2006, 12:45:28 PM »
Darnit!, why do the big cities always feel they have to rape the little guys! This is no worse than a company moving to West Chester.

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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2006, 07:19:58 AM »
My alma mater has made it to the Division 6 State Title games in 1997, 1999, and 2004 (and they were unfortunately State Runner-ups each year).  I went to the 1999 game in Canton and the 2004 game was in Massillon; very fun atmosphere!  I cannot see High School football being played anywhere else other than Stark County!  It's tradition.

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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2006, 01:30:22 PM »
Seems a little ridiculous for Cincy to host the games.  They are in the corner of the state.  Stark is not centrally located, but its much closer to the overall population than Cincy is. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2006, 04:01:21 PM »
Stark AND Cincinnati both are not appropriate for the state, as they are in a corner of the state.  Columbus is the logical choice, as everybody can get to Columbus in 3 hours or less.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2006, 05:29:25 AM »
Why not just rotate it
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2006, 12:24:35 PM »
Or that.
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2006, 02:56:07 PM »
Hell No. I attend at least 1 title game each year at each stadium and I ask fans from each team would you rather it be in another city like Columbus? I never get a YES to that question.

People love the atmosphere.. They can hit the pro football Hall.... The freeway access makes it that much more logical.

I talked with a few OHSAA people at the games last year and they told me these big cities must put a huge load of cash/effort if they wanted them, and they each said they DOUBT it would be anywhere other than Canton - Massillon for 3-5 more years.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2006, 03:09:10 PM »
Well, of COURSE the people up there wouldn't want it to leave.  It's like asking somebody from Sandusky "How would you feel if the Top Thrill Dragster skidaddled to Geauga Lake?"

Columbus, to me, makes the most logic.  Capital city, center of state, 3 hours from everybody, and the flagship university.
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2006, 03:18:52 PM »
^And where are you again?

While we are at it, lets move every town's identity to Columbus so that it can be close to everybody! All the sculpture and Icefest from Hamilton, the ballons and Middfest from Middletown, whatever from Springfield, Lima, Zanesville, Marrietta, Lorain, etc, etc, etc. Give it all to greedy Cbus!!!

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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2006, 03:31:58 PM »
^What does the Icefest (local attraction) have to do with the State Football Championship (statewide attraction)?  Columbus would make a good choice for the same reason it's the Capital City, Location, Location, Location.  Crew Stadium is right off of I-71, which happens to connect the 3 largest cities in Ohio. 

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2006, 03:45:34 PM »
Thank you for logic, John.
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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2006, 04:05:25 PM »
^What does the Icefest (local attraction) have to do with the State Football Championship (statewide attraction)?  Columbus would make a good choice for the same reason it's the Capital City, Location, Location, Location.  Crew Stadium is right off of I-71, which happens to connect the 3 largest cities in Ohio. 

And where are you?


Anyway, you've even driven my point deeper, a statewide event means much more than a local event. Taking it will take more than anything I've mentioned.

I would think Urban fans like yourself recognize that there is more than just Cbus (or Cincy, Clvelnd). You display you dispair about deteriorating small towns, yet you won't take the time to drive to them for a football game?

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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2006, 04:21:13 PM »
I understand the idea of smaller towns holding events.  But I don't see anything wrong with Columbus, the capital and center of the state, gaining the football championships (as basketball and pretty much everything else is already here).  Massillon will still be big in high school football, state championships or not.
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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2006, 04:29:25 PM »
^Tell me you wouldn't fell raped if you were a Massillon/Canton area resident. Cbus has enough (like you said, everything) and IMO shouldn't spent its time fretting about not holding one measly event that means so much to a community. I'll give you the final word.

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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2006, 11:34:01 PM »
Make up your mind, is the State Football Championship a big deal or a "measly" event.  Unfortunately when I was in high school our football team sucked ass (S-T-E-B-B-I-N-S, Stebbins Indians are the best, YES!) so I've never had to make the long haul to Massillon.  I guess this is about weighing the wants/needs of Massillon versuses the wants/needs of the rest of the state.

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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2006, 01:35:40 AM »
^Its measly to Cbus, its huge to Massillon. You should find that in my context.

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Re: Ohio High School Football: General News & Discussion
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2006, 02:32:32 AM »
at crew stadium? bah! that's a soccer stadium. it has f$&king one dollar brat nights. let masillion keep the high school football championship.

central location...man it would still take a week to ride a horse from any corner of the state, not much less than stark county. go bucks!

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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2006, 04:00:18 AM »
^Its measly to Cbus, its huge to Massillon. You should find that in my context.

Yeah, no one shows up @ OSU for the state championships in Wrestling and basketball.  No one spends money in restaurants the week of all the final 4s. :roll:

Like Massillion will turn into a ghost town if the state football finals are moved to Columbus.

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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2006, 04:04:49 AM »
Hell No. I attend at least 1 title game each year at each stadium and I ask fans from each team would you rather it be in another city like Columbus? I never get a YES to that question.

People love the atmosphere.. They can hit the pro football Hall.... The freeway access makes it that much more logical.

You must not be talking to Cincinnati people, because everyone down here gets real tired of having to drive so far north in order to collect their state championship.  The state championship should be held in Cincy without a doubt.  Yes it is not centrally located, but HS football here is a passion. 

-Elder's 'Pit' is seen as one of the top ten places to watch a football across the nation.
-HS playoff games held at PBS consistantley draw huge crowds (40,000 or so a few yrs ago, 30,000+ last year for a second round game).
-Cincinnati is the first city to ever have three teams in the top 25 nationally at one time (Elder, St. X, Colerain)
-Cincinnati teams are also distancing themselves from the rest of the competition statewide (one could say that the real state championship was held in Cincy last year between St. X and Colerain at PBS).

Cincinnati IS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL...bring the championships to Cincy where they belong.


On another note:  why is football different from the majority of the other OHSAA sports.  These other sports two teams, from the same city, can face off for the title.  However, this does not happen and ofter times deserving teams are knocked out unfairly early when they should be in the championship or semis.

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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2006, 04:10:20 AM »
^Its measly to Cbus, its huge to Massillon. You should find that in my context.

Yeah, no one shows up @ OSU for the state championships in Wrestling and basketball.  No one spends money in restaurants the week of all the final 4s. :roll:

What? It will still have the same amount of economic effect in both places, but who has that smaller economy? I remember staying in a hotel in Greene (just north of Canton) and they were advertising the tournament as one of their main amentities/whatever you call them on cards in the lobby. Do you think Cbus hotels need this event as much as they do? :roll:


Like Massillion will turn into a ghost town if the state football finals are moved to Columbus.

I didn't say that, but I did say it will be a big blow to them without it. Cbus isn't really going to get too excitied about just another tournament, but the whole Massillon area seems to be excitied about it year-round. We went to a church service in N. Canton last year and the minister told us "we just have to go see Massillon's stadium!" and then he gave us directions, right in the reception line, and this is June!
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« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2006, 12:06:34 PM »
^Its measly to Cbus, its huge to Massillon. You should find that in my context.

Yeah, no one shows up @ OSU for the state championships in Wrestling and basketball.  No one spends money in restaurants the week of all the final 4s. :roll:

What? It will still have the same economic effect in both places, but who has that smaller economy. I remember staying in a hotel in Greene (just north of Canton) and they were advertising the tournament as one of their main amentities/whatever you call them on cards in the lobby. Do you think Cbus hotels need this event as much as they do? :roll:

You're trying to mix economies of scale with emotional attachment. It makes your rebuttal sound like a misguided attempt at socialist theory.  Not all things are equal, otherwise everything would be equally spread out instead of being grouped in geographical locations (due to physical and/or social reasons).
Since when does city population equate hotel economies?  If anything, Columbus would have more hotels, closer to the stadiums than Massilion/Canton would have for theirs.  If you're so concerned about the economies of small towns, go spend your money there. 

Like Massillion will turn into a ghost town if the state football finals are moved to Columbus.

I didn't say that, but I did say it will be a big blow to them without it. Cbus isn't really going to get too excitied about just another tournament, but the whole Massillon area seems to be excitied about it year-round. We went to a church service in N. Canton last year and the minister told us "we just have to go see Massillon's stadium!" and then he gave us directions, right in the reception line, and this is June!

I'm going to let you in on a secret.
The State football championships weren't always held in Massillon.
Until the Mid-80s they were held in......COLUMBUS! At the 'Horseshoe.'
Yes, HS football is a major deal in Massillon.  Yes, Paul Brown-Tiger Stadium is new, big, and nice.  But is it fair for Cincy Moeller, or N. Price Hill, or St. Henry to travel 100-200 miles to play Cleveland St. Ignacious, Warren Harding, or Chardon at location that is within 50 miles for them?  That's is why some of us favor moving the football finals back to Columbus. 
If you care so much for Massillon, move there!
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Re: Ohio High School Football: General News & Discussion
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2006, 12:21:22 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2006, 12:31:28 PM »
^ no.

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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2006, 02:50:09 PM »
I would like to see role reversals in the state for a few years.  Lets have all the team from the northeastern part of the state come on down to Cincy for the championship.  Just trying to even out the injustices over the past some odd years.

Lets have this title game in Cincy where it belongs!

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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2006, 05:56:51 PM »

What? It will still have the same economic effect in both places, but who has that smaller economy. I remember staying in a hotel in Greene (just north of Canton) and they were advertising the tournament as one of their main amentities/whatever you call them on cards in the lobby. Do you think Cbus hotels need this event as much as they do? :roll:

You're trying to mix economies of scale with emotional attachment. It makes your rebuttal sound like a misguided attempt at socialist theory.  Not all things are equal, otherwise everything would be equally spread out instead of being grouped in geographical locations (due to physical and/or social reasons).
Since when does city population equate hotel economies?  If anything, Columbus would have more hotels, closer to the stadiums than Massillon/Canton would have for theirs.  If you're so concerned about the economies of small towns, go spend your money there. 

I don't think so. I'm relating hotels to events, not population, and as I said, the hotels of Stark have a lot less`to hold, which is why this is a much bigger deal to them. I'll refer you to Hamilton, where the Hamiltonian is only full 3 or 4 weekends a year, all Miami events. Luckily most of Starks hotel's are off 77 and can catch tourism in the summer, but Massillon's hotels are kind of off the beaten path, like Hamilton. I do spend my money in small towns, and if this is representitive of big city mentality, I don't think I'll ever drop another dime in Cbus, I'll give it to Grove City and Pickerington!






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I didn't say that, but I did say it will be a big blow to them without it. Cbus isn't really going to get too excitied about just another tournament, but the whole Massillon area seems to be excitied about it year-round. We went to a church service in N. Canton last year and the minister told us "we just have to go see Massillon's stadium!" and then he gave us directions, right in the reception line, and this is June!

I'm going to let you in on a secret.
The State football championships weren't always held in Massillon.
Until the Mid-80s they were held in......COLUMBUS! At the 'Horseshoe.'
Yes, HS football is a major deal in Massillon.  Yes, Paul Brown-Tiger Stadium is new, big, and nice.  But is it fair for Cincy Moeller, or N. Price Hill, or St. Henry to travel 100-200 miles to play Cleveland St. Ignacious, Warren Harding, or Chardon at location that is within 50 miles for them?  That's is why some of us favor moving the football finals back to Columbus. 
If you care so much for Massillon, move there!

Thats no secret, actually the article states the move to Massillon was in 1990, but DON'T tell me that you can't get attached to something in 15 years, that this event hasn't changed the area. I don't see your driving argument either, its not like Ohio is some mammoth state, or Massillon is out in the middle of hocking hills or something. Anywhere you move it, someone will have an advantage. Columbus Brookhaven, Lancaster, etc. are probably all over moving it to Cbus. I can't move to every small city in Ohio Magyar and I really don't get that statement. As a general rule, many UO forumers are fans/supporters of numerous Ohio cities, not all of which they can make their home in.
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Re: Ohio High School Football: General News & Discussion
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2006, 11:33:46 AM »
Dublin?

Dublin bids with Columbus for football division championships
Thursday, April 6, 2006
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If Dublin and Columbus tourism officials get their way, the state's football championship games will be in central Ohio next year -- and possibly for the next two to four years after that.

The Dublin Convention and Visitors Bureau, in conjunction with Dublin City Schools, Experience Columbus and the Greater Columbus Sports Commission, submitted a proposal to the Ohio High School Athletic Association to move all six football division championship games to either Dublin Coffman High School Stadium or Columbus Crew Stadium.

Representatives of the bureau and commission presented the proposal to OHSAA officials on March 30.

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« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2006, 11:36:48 AM »
Dublin!??!  DUBLIN!??!

Well, atleast they have PF Chang's.  PF Chang's > Massillon, duh.
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« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2006, 05:26:37 PM »
Oh well.


Stark County to host state football title games again
11:33 AM, Thursday, May 11, 2006
By DON DETORE
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It’s unanimous.

The Ohio High School Athletic Association’s Board of Control voted unanimously Thursday morning to continue to hold the state’s championship football games in Stark County.

The OHSAA has awarded Stark County a three-year contract for the games that also includes two option years.

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« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2006, 05:31:43 PM »
“The difference is, in other places, it’s just another event they’re bidding on...Here, the event takes precedence."

This guy gets me. I'm glad this was taken into consideration in the decision, it renews my faith in humanity and the future of Ohio's smaller cities.

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« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2006, 04:14:15 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2006, 04:24:04 PM »
From the 8/30/06 Massillon Independent:

Battle lines drawn for state title games
By R.J. VILLELLA
Robert.Villella@IndeOnline.com


Local tourism experts are aware of a new challenge to take the Ohio High School Football Championships away from Stark County but remain confident they can put together another bid package that will hold other envious cities at bay.

The current contract with the Ohio High School Athletic Association – which means roughly $3 million a year to the local economy in tourism – runs through 2009, with option years for 2010 and 2011, said John Kiste, head of the Canton/Stark Visitors and Convention Bureau.

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