Author Topic: Cincinnati: Hyde Park - Michigan Terrace (Read 12066 times)

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **on:** July 22, 2004, 09:58:41 AM »

Here is the best info I could find on the new project in Hyde Park. They are going to start site work soon as they have blocked off the site from parking.

http://www.hydeparkzoning.com/docs/03_1118_2704Erie.pdf

Cincinnatus · « **Reply #1 on:** July 22, 2004, 12:41:35 PM »

Looks pretty good to me--not great, but it isn't too easy to imagine what the final building will look like from that one small rendering.

CiNYC · « **Reply #2 on:** July 22, 2004, 01:55:36 PM »

i can't believe i'm saying this, but it doesn't look that bad at all. it's nothing spectacular, but it does the job while maintaining a proper relationship to the sidewalk and street.
my only complaints thusfar are with the north and east setbacks and parking lots. i would much rather see 0 to 5 foot setbacks, considering the fact that attached buildings are not gonna happen at this site.

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2004, 01:28:47 AM »

Not so shabby. Will see how the final product compares.

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #4 on:** October 13, 2004, 09:12:55 AM »

I drove by today and saw the dirt getting dumped for the groundbreaking....

Developers to break ground on Hyde Park condo project
Al Neyer Inc. and Lantrust Real Estate Group are ready to break ground on Michigan Terrace, a condominium and retail development on Hyde Park Square.

According to a news release, the project will kick off tonight with a 5:30 p.m. event at the site, 3500 Michigan Ave.

The $10 million project will add a six-story building to the square, with 15 luxury condos, up to four street-level retail businesses and underground parking.

This will be the first sizable development on the square in 60 years, according to the developers.

kendall · « **Reply #5 on:** October 13, 2004, 01:37:01 PM »

I view this as a great example of productive, appropriate infill in a city neighborhood.

Can't wait to see how it looks!

Cincinnatus · « **Reply #6 on:** October 13, 2004, 11:49:35 PM »

I'm glad to know they have had the groundbreaking. I saw a rendering on t.v. which seemed a bit different from the old one. The top two floors are set back quite a bit to reduce the impact on the Square. It looked pretty nice.

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #7 on:** October 14, 2004, 01:23:18 AM »

For the second time today:
"It's about freaking time."

Abandoned gas stations be damned.

Haynesm007 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 14, 2004, 01:30:47 AM »

I hope it's just the rendering but it looks fairly modern. I really hope it blends in with the neighborhood. It may be naive but I would assume the local council would have made sure of it. I also wonder what the retail mix underneath will be. Anyone heard of possible tenants?

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #9 on:** October 14, 2004, 02:05:40 AM »

^ Not yet.

Cincinnatus · « **Reply #10 on:** October 14, 2004, 08:06:09 AM »

I drove past there today around noon and noticed that the lot is fenced off and they have a large sign up showing a picture of the building. I wanted to stop and get a shot of it, but some woman grabbed the only parking spot available and I didn't feel like circling around trying to find another. There does appear to be a large glass portion which appears modern, but I think it will be nice when it's finished. I doubt that they will have any trouble renting out the retail since that is such a busy area.

SSSCincy · « **Reply #11 on:** October 14, 2004, 01:21:28 PM »

I am all for it. I am sure it will be nice - it is Hyde Park Square. We need this kind of development.

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #12 on:** October 16, 2004, 06:42:12 AM »

This is the latest rendering from the Neyer website. I put the link to it underneath just in case they don't appreciate us using up bandwidth:

http://www.neyer.com/portfolio/project_boxes/michigan_terrace/lg_michigan_01.jpg

CiNYC · « **Reply #13 on:** October 16, 2004, 07:46:52 AM »

that rendering is hot.

go neyer!

ackermann group could learn a lot from this company.

cincyimages · « **Reply #14 on:** October 16, 2004, 11:53:20 AM »

If that building looks like that I will be a happy.

Well done.

cincinnatizach · « **Reply #15 on:** October 16, 2004, 02:35:00 PM »

i agree it looks nice but..i only counted 4 stories...i dunno

PhattyNati · « **Reply #16 on:** October 31, 2004, 08:44:07 AM »

interesting new rendering...nicely downplaying the top floors

http://www.neyer.com/

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #17 on:** October 31, 2004, 11:09:39 AM »

^ This rendering has been around a while. I think it's somewhere in this thread.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist...I saw a post similar to this one in the QCS thread)

PhattyNati · « **Reply #18 on:** October 31, 2004, 11:11:36 AM »

ha, i must be an idiot

PhattyNati · « **Reply #19 on:** October 31, 2004, 11:13:36 AM »

i was so excited because i thought i found something i skipped right to the end

RiverViewer · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2005, 02:04:20 AM »

I have an embarrassingly bad picture I snapped of the site while stopped at the Erie/Michigan light yesterday - I just had time to point and shoot, and the flash went off...but if you look closely, you can see the hole in the ground and the gear...

cincyimages · « **Reply #21 on:** March 13, 2005, 06:38:15 AM »

I took a pic when they were talking about building this place:

Weedrose · « **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2005, 08:10:57 AM »

are they not anymore

RiverViewer · « **Reply #23 on:** March 13, 2005, 08:46:06 AM »

Yeah, my shot probably is more distracting than enlightening, but if you look close you can see there's a big hole behind the fence. Excavation is under way...

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2005, 10:44:08 AM »

The word on the pre-sales...the lowest-priced unit is somewhere around $750K, and the penthouse is going for $1,210,000 (SALE PENDING):
http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=901994&prop=1047054

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #25 on:** May 22, 2005, 11:26:22 PM »

Here is a construction pic from this weekend

Cincinnatus · « **Reply #26 on:** May 22, 2005, 11:31:33 PM »

Nice, some above the ground action.

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #27 on:** June 10, 2005, 02:52:37 AM »

A pic from today

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #28 on:** June 10, 2005, 06:56:46 AM »

Looks like they've gotten quite a bit done in the past two months.

RiverViewer · « **Reply #29 on:** June 11, 2005, 01:06:21 AM »

Cool...thank you for the update (and all your other 'round town updates of late!)

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #30 on:** June 23, 2005, 07:16:40 AM »

Some pics from over the weekend.....

Peeking out from the corner of Linwood and Observatory

CiNYC · « **Reply #31 on:** June 23, 2005, 07:47:39 AM »

damn, that's going up fast!

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #32 on:** June 23, 2005, 10:24:41 AM »

No doubt! It doesn't seem like that long since I've been to the square.

PhattyNati · « **Reply #33 on:** June 23, 2005, 02:06:49 PM »

i think they should leave that green net up. it compliments the square very nicely

RiverViewer · « **Reply #34 on:** July 12, 2005, 10:22:46 AM »

Not as good as the Cincinnati Kid's pictures (I was just driving past), but in the 2nd shot, you can see they've filled it in a bit:

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #35 on:** August 17, 2005, 10:11:42 PM »

Building alters historic square
By Steve Kemme | Enquirer staff writer

Steel column by steel column, bar joist by bar joist, a hulking new presence is materializing on Hyde Park Square. Construction of Michigan Terrace, a $10 million six-story luxury condominium and retail development, represents the first major change in more than 60 years on one of Greater Cincinnati's most elegant and distinctive community squares.

Like a controversial piece of abstract public sculpture, the building's skeleton already provokes strong reactions from praise to condemnation - even though Michigan Terrace won't be completed for six months. On a recent morning, Marilyn Ray sat drinking house-blend coffee at a sidewalk table in front of Awakenings Coffee and Tea Co. on Hyde Park Square and peered up at the six-story work-in-progress on the northeast corner of Erie and Michigan avenues.

Full Story: http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050818/NEWS01/508180444

Mr Sparkle · « **Reply #36 on:** August 18, 2005, 04:35:58 AM »

^As an added inducement to live in the city, the buyers of Michigan Terrace condos will receive an annual city property tax rebate of $4,550 for 15 years.

Smart move....like you really have to force people to move to Hyde Park

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #37 on:** August 18, 2005, 07:42:03 AM »

^ No doubt. They're losing a useful amount of money by doing so. I guess they have to apply the rebate program fairly and equally, though.

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #38 on:** August 19, 2005, 05:52:16 AM »

Some pics from yesterday

CiNYC · « **Reply #39 on:** August 19, 2005, 06:57:45 AM »

I think it's gonna turn out great as long as the facade materials aren't junk. I like how you can see it rising above the trees as you come up Linwood. Massive and appropriate for the neighborhood I say.

Jskinner · « **Reply #40 on:** August 20, 2005, 04:20:20 AM »

The design is not fantastic, but it is URBAN architecture, with good street presence. I give it a thumbs up.

PhattyNati · « **Reply #41 on:** August 20, 2005, 06:17:59 AM »

i think the design is great, it will do nothing bad add to the square. some people are unable to see past the hulking steel structure that it is now

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #42 on:** August 20, 2005, 10:52:32 AM »

Has anyone been reading the Cincinnati.com comments?

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #43 on:** September 21, 2005, 04:38:52 PM »

Here are a couple from September 21. I didn't get a chance to go to the east side of the building. The quality's pretty poor because of the lighting conditions, but you get a general idea:

CiNYC · « **Reply #44 on:** October 20, 2005, 03:48:14 PM »

any chance of some new shots of this? i'm curious to see how it's progressing.

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #45 on:** October 21, 2005, 01:40:26 PM »

I probably won't get a chance to get back out there until the middle of next week.

edale · « **Reply #46 on:** October 21, 2005, 04:46:42 PM »

I don't have any pics but i drive by almost daily and I can say it looks pretty similar to the above pic. Some insulation? (the white and yellow stuff) has been added on the side farthest from the square but that's it.

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #47 on:** November 08, 2005, 04:41:10 PM »

Here you are CiNYC. I got these just before sunset so the lighting is poor, but you get the idea:

Cincinnatus · « **Reply #48 on:** November 09, 2005, 04:45:57 AM »

They're getting these up faster than The Gateway!

BrugaCMH · « **Reply #49 on:** November 10, 2005, 05:05:18 AM »

Anyone know of a website where you can view the floor plans for Michigan Terrace in Hyde Park Square?

Thanks!

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #50 on:** November 10, 2005, 07:24:03 AM »

Try this mls listing....

http://www.comey.com/displaylist.asw?listnum=901983&mls=cincy

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #51 on:** December 10, 2005, 11:34:32 AM »

I have NEVER had trouble finding a parking space at Hyde Park Square. Sure, I may not always be able to park directly in front of where I'm going, but I'm usually no more than half a block away. I agree with Carden on this one. From the 12/7/05 Community Press:

Businesses say parking at a premium
BY FORREST SELLERS | COMMUNITY PRESS STAFF WRITER

'Tis the season. Snow. Santa. Decorations. And lengthy walks back to the car. However, this isn't just at the malls. Business owners have said parking is a serious issue in Hyde Park Square, especially on Michigan Avenue. Some have said the problem has been exacerbated by construction of the Michigan Terrace development.

"Construction workers for the project are parking at every meter," said Kevin Morris, owner of the Racquet Co. "They are taking up every space on Michigan Avenue." Morris said it has been a problem since the summer of 2004. "It's not only the parking problem, but (Michigan Avenue) has been closed for weeks at a time putting in water lines, pipes and electrical poles," he said.

Full Story: http://news.communitypress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051207/NEWS01/512070352/1074/Local

Weedrose · « **Reply #52 on:** December 10, 2005, 03:55:42 PM »

Catch a damn bus or park on a side street or better yet walk.

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #53 on:** December 28, 2005, 12:11:44 AM »

Look irks some locals Many say size won't fit area
By Steve Kemme | Enquirer staff writer

Before a shovel broke ground, Michigan Terrace was the object of intense debate. Would the $10 million six-story condominium and retail development at the northeast corner of Erie and Michigan avenues enhance or ruin the appearance of Hyde Park Square?

Now that the exterior brickwork has been completed on the east and north sides of Michigan Terrace, people can better visualize what the completed building will look like. Residents' and shoppers' opinions of the structure still run the gamut. "It looks fine to me," said Sally Kamholtz of Clifton. "It looks as though it will fit in."

Full Story: http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051228/NEWS01/512280356

CiNYC · « **Reply #54 on:** December 28, 2005, 05:02:43 AM »

I absolutely love the building and think it's the best built in the city in decades. I hope it raises the bar for new construction, putting an end to mistakes such as the Kroger garage condos and the building at the corner of Madison & Woodburn.

The only issue I have with it is that the upper 2 stories have been excessively set back to appease nimbys. It makes it look more like an addition and it seems to me that the views from there will be of nothing but tree tops and the roof of the main structure.

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #55 on:** December 28, 2005, 05:55:47 AM »

These people need to quit crying. If it bothers them that much, they should move to Madeira.

And can someone explain to me how this building is so "out of scale", yet the buildings near the intersection of Erie and Edwards are not?

PRidgeFlyer · « **Reply #56 on:** December 28, 2005, 08:22:34 AM »

While I agree that it beats the gas station that previously graced that corner, I had not been in the area in a while and I when I drove through the square the other day I was a bit overwhelmed at how big imposing that building is on the square as a whole. Not a bad looking building, but it really sticks out iin comparison with the rest of the buildings on the square.

CiNYC · « **Reply #57 on:** December 28, 2005, 09:00:54 AM »

Just looking at that picture linked from the enquirer again, admiring the way the building encloses the square and terminates the view at that edge of the square. Beautiful!

It's a shame that the site where the newer 5/3 Bank sits at the opposite end of the square couldn't have been designed in a similar fashion. I'd also love to see something of this caliber come to Oakley where I believe there would be much less opposition and there is plenty of room for new construction.

RiverViewer · « **Reply #58 on:** January 02, 2006, 02:13:40 AM »

^Amen. You can't go from the "rundown gas station" ethos to "four story luxury condos" and not expect the look to change just a touch...as long as the facing material fits in (or sticks out in a good way), I'm going to be quite pleased. Adding all those residents right on the square - that's nothing but a big can of good.

And indeed, let's see it in Oakley next! Then Madisonville!

cincyimages · « **Reply #59 on:** January 02, 2006, 10:25:28 AM »

I couldn't agree more with the previous two comments. Keep these developments coming and please no more Cornerstone at Norwood/Pictoria crap around the metro.

PRidgeFlyer · « **Reply #60 on:** January 03, 2006, 05:01:10 PM »

Quote from: montecarloss on January 02, 2006, 10:25:28 AM

please no more Cornerstone at Norwood/Pictoria crap around the metro.

Amen to that!

BrugaCMH · « **Reply #61 on:** January 04, 2006, 03:39:25 AM »

My parents live two blocks from the square and neither they nor their neighbors have a problem with the building..

They love it. All of it.

The high end quality of the construction is great and hope it creates a new standard for projects similiar to it around Ohio. I am in Columbus and there is a similar project in Grandview called "The Heights". the website can be found at: http://www.cityspaceresidential.com/theheights.asp . It has had the same height issues and neighbors bitching. Micigan Terrace makes this Columbus project look like a low end construction crap box.

Be thanking your lucky stars your getting an attractive, quality structure.

cincyimages · « **Reply #62 on:** February 24, 2006, 01:32:11 PM »

I walked by it this evening, it is coming together nicely.

UncleRando · « **Reply #63 on:** February 24, 2006, 01:33:42 PM »

Any updated pics of this project floating around?!?!?

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #64 on:** June 30, 2006, 08:42:52 AM »

Here are some pics from today....

SSSCincy · « **Reply #65 on:** July 01, 2006, 12:51:02 AM »

I think it may very well be the nicest new building in Cincy area - maybe even the Tri-State.

PRidgeFlyer · « **Reply #66 on:** July 01, 2006, 05:49:52 AM »

I ate lunch on HPS last weekend and it took away my earlier concerns that it was going to look out of place in the square because it's such a large building. Setting the upper floors back keeps it from looking overly imposing due to height. Really a great looking building that I think will breathe some new life in the square. Well done

ColDayMan · « **Reply #67 on:** July 01, 2006, 02:17:58 PM »

Quote from: SSSCincy on July 01, 2006, 12:51:02 AM

I think it may very well be the nicest new building in Cincy area - maybe even the Tri-State.

No, there are buildings around UC that blow that out of the water. But it's very nice, particularly for Hyde Park Square.

cincyimages · « **Reply #68 on:** July 02, 2006, 03:12:51 PM »

Here is a photo I took this Saturday:

UncleRando · « **Reply #69 on:** July 03, 2006, 02:04:21 AM »

I too would agree that it is a great addition to the square!

LincolnKennedy · « **Reply #70 on:** July 03, 2006, 02:23:05 AM »

I think most units in this building have been sold. Expect in the near future a similar project on the SibcyCline realty site at the corner of Edwards and Erie.

Quote from: PRidgeFlyer on July 01, 2006, 05:49:52 AM

I ate lunch on HPS last weekend and it took away my earlier concerns that it was going to look out of place in the square because it's such a large building. Setting the upper floors back keeps it from looking overly imposing due to height. Really a great looking building that I think will breathe some new life in the square. Well done

Breath some new life in the Square? HP Square seems to have plenty of life to me, and with condos in the building ranging from $585,000 to $1.4 million, it's probably just going to be breathing more of the same life into the Square.

It looks like every unit is under contract except one for $1.325 million and another at the more moderate price of $825,000. Get yours today!

cincyimages · « **Reply #71 on:** July 03, 2006, 03:54:30 AM »

^ So whats the problem with expensive units on the square? This is Hyde Park, the cream of the crop of Cincinnati so I would expect any new units built in Hyde Park to be expensive. I would like to see more "newer condo" options in Hyde Park to atract more wealthy people and keep their taxes in Cincinnati proper.

LincolnKennedy · « **Reply #72 on:** July 03, 2006, 04:04:33 AM »

^There's no problem with expensive condos on the Square. As you said, that's what one would expect. Unlike say, the Banks, this is a project where a private developer is almost guaranteed to make good money converting an old commercial parcel into residential/mixed use space without the need for the government's involvement. My snarky tone was in response to PRidgeFlyer's throwaway, "breathe new life into the Square comment". I thought that was pretty clear.

cincyimages · « **Reply #73 on:** July 03, 2006, 05:51:30 AM »

Misunderstood... Thanks for clearing it up.

UncleRando · « **Reply #74 on:** July 03, 2006, 06:22:24 AM »

Quote from: LincolnKennedy on July 03, 2006, 02:23:05 AM

I think most units in this building have been sold. Expect in the near future a similar project on the SibcyCline realty site at the corner of Edwards and Erie.

With this in mind I think it would be a cool idea to extend the center park (in the street) one block in both directions. I feel that this would expand the great character and charm of HPS. What do the rest of you think?

PRidgeFlyer · « **Reply #75 on:** July 03, 2006, 07:18:07 AM »

Quote from: LincolnKennedy on July 03, 2006, 02:23:05 AM

Breath some new life in the Square? HP Square seems to have plenty of life to me

Are you suggesting that it's reached the saturation point? I lived in Hyde Park from 99 - 04 and for the exception of Le Cezzane and the toy store closing & the black hole for restaurants that is Red On the Square (formerly Vince & Jakes, Cafe St. George, Pane E Vino, etc) everything has pretty much remained the same. Unless I am mistaken, that project will have street level retail/restuarant space so as far as I am concerned, anything that is created as a result in is "new life". Even if it does not include retail or restaurant space, the new structure will certainly have more impact on the square than the former Sunoco station did. For the record, I think for people my age Hyde Park Square is fairly boring and Oakley Square and its business district has more to offer (i.e. a music venue, boutique shops, and bars). So excuse me for my throw away line, but anything else at street level in Hyde Park Square is new to me so please spare me your "snarky tone".

cramer · « **Reply #76 on:** July 03, 2006, 07:31:49 AM »

Having lived in Hyde Park from '78 to '95, from my perspective HPS is a shell of it's former self. The only evidence you need is the list of restaurants in the above post.

Having said that, the new building looks pretty good.

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #77 on:** July 03, 2006, 07:56:03 AM »

Quote

I think most units in this building have been sold. Expect in the near future a similar project on the SibcyCline realty site at the corner of Edwards and Erie.

Please tell us more! I did hear that the Sibcy Cline office is relocating to bigger digs. So come on, spill the beans! What can we expect and when?

LincolnKennedy · « **Reply #78 on:** July 03, 2006, 09:43:26 AM »

Quote from: cramer on July 03, 2006, 07:31:49 AM

Having lived in Hyde Park from '78 to '95, from my perspective HPS is a shell of it's former self. The only evidence you need is the list of restaurants in the above post.

I'm pretty sure all those restaurants were at the same location, which for whatever reason can not seem to keep a tenant.

What appeals to a small child is not going to appeal to the average adult. Yeah, it kind of sucks that Hyde Park Square no longer has two drugstores, a barber shop, Zino's, Drew's Bookstore, etc. I also don't shop at high end women's clothing stores and art galleries. But saying that Hyde Park is a shell of its former self would be like saying, oh, I don't know, maybe that you are a shell of your former self, since you don't do the same things at 28 that you did at 12. Are you really that bereft over the dissapearance of Eagle Savings and Loan, or the Tennis Pro Shop?

Quote from: PRidgeFlyer on July 03, 2006, 07:18:07 AM

For the record, I think for people my age Hyde Park Square is fairly boring and Oakley Square and its business district has more to offer (i.e. a music venue, boutique shops, and bars). So excuse me for my throw away line, but anything else at street level in Hyde Park Square is new to me so please spare me your "snarky tone".

I pulled out my snarky tone to check you melodramatic angst. Scissors cuts paper. I agree with you, Hyde Park Square is quite boring. It's usually overpriced as well. In fact, that perfectly describes the club sandwich at The Echo, boring and overpriced. And what could be more Hyde Park Square than that? But let's be honest, just because you don't like a place means it's dead, or bad per se. So until Shake It Records and Sitwell's moved into the storefront of Michigan Terrace, let's shed no tears for Hyde Park Square.

cincyimages · « **Reply #79 on:** July 03, 2006, 09:48:48 AM »

I find Hyde Park square to be one of the (no not #1) healthest business districts in Cincinnati based on foot traffic. It caters to a certain demographic and people looking for ice cream in a nice urban setting. For the average person it is a nice place to go for Graeters and people watching for others, it offers high end fashion. It might be boring to some but it fills a niche the city needs which is heathy.

LincolnKennedy · « **Reply #80 on:** July 03, 2006, 09:52:32 AM »

Quote from: The_Cincinnati_Kid on July 03, 2006, 07:56:03 AM

Quote
I think most units in this building have been sold. Expect in the near future a similar project on the SibcyCline realty site at the corner of Edwards and Erie.

Please tell us more! I did hear that the Sibcy Cline office is relocating to bigger digs. So come on, spill the beans! What can we expect and when?

I have no idea when it might happen. Their could still be street and first level offices as their is now at a 'Edwards Terrace' type building at the spot, with residential on top. I just hear rumors from a man on the inside that _____ Sibcy owns one of the penthouses in the Michigan Terrace building, and when all of those are sold and the storefronts are up and running, that they'd do the same with their building. Since all but two of the units are sold (and if they had been on schedule one guy wouldn't have backed out) and for such prices, those guys are making money hand over fist. If it worked once, why not do it again? It will probably work again.

I hope it does. I always thought a good place for a streetcar would be from the theoretcal Wasson Light Rail Line near Rookwood Commons, through Hyde Park and Mt. Lookout Squares, down to the new Columbia Square development, terminating in the projected Oasis Rail Line. Maybe get a few more people out of their cars.

cramer · « **Reply #81 on:** July 03, 2006, 10:22:19 AM »

Quote from: LincolnKennedy on July 03, 2006, 09:43:26 AM

I'm pretty sure all those restaurants were at the same location, which for whatever reason can not seem to keep a tenant.

What appeals to a small child is not going to appeal to the average adult. Yeah, it kind of sucks that Hyde Park Square no longer has two drugstores, a barber shop, Zino's, Drew's Bookstore, etc. I also don't shop at high end women's clothing stores and art galleries. But saying that Hyde Park is a shell of its former self would be like saying, oh, I don't know, maybe that you are a shell of your former self, since you don't do the same things at 28 that you did at 12. Are you really that bereft over the dissapearance of Eagle Savings and Loan, or the Tennis Pro Shop?

Actually, it's TCBY's passing that I lament. And I am a shell of my 12 year old self.

LincolnKennedy · « **Reply #82 on:** July 03, 2006, 10:58:03 AM »

Coach: "Little Cramer, I've never know you to back down from a challenge."
Cramer: "Put me in Coach!"

^What happened to that guy?

PRidgeFlyer · « **Reply #83 on:** July 04, 2006, 06:13:31 AM »

Quote from: LincolnKennedy on July 03, 2006, 09:43:26 AM

I pulled out my snarky tone to check you melodramatic angst. Scissors cuts paper. I agree with you, Hyde Park Square is quite boring. It's usually overpriced as well. In fact, that perfectly describes the club sandwich at The Echo, boring and overpriced. And what could be more Hyde Park Square than that? But let's be honest, just because you don't like a place means it's dead, or bad per se. So until Shake It Records and Sitwell's moved into the storefront of Michigan Terrace, let's shed no tears for Hyde Park Square.

The only thing you need to "check" is your reading comprehension. All I said is that the physical structure of Michigan Terrace fits the character of the square well and I like that this project provides the first opportunity to add new street level development (retail/restaurant) to HPS. How you are able to read melodramatic angst into my post is beyond me. Generally people do not puncutate melodramatic angst with a smiley face icon. Am I guilty of using and overworked cliche when I said "beathe new life"? Sure. What I didn't say, that you seem to infer is that I am celebrating is the creation of new overpriced housing in Hyde Park. That is actually the least interesting aspect of this project to me. There is already an over abundance of that, but I have no problem with it either. Lastly, by saying that HPS is boring for my demographic does not mean that I dislike the square nor did I say I said HPS is dead. I do in fact like several of the restaurants that are there - which is why I was eating there last weekend - however before of after I eat, there is little for people like me to do other than go to Graters. What I am saying is that the current tenant mix is stale for me and that the new street level development offers the Square and opportunity to add something new to the mix that may make the square more dynamic.

David · « **Reply #84 on:** January 23, 2008, 09:39:18 AM »

Who all is occupying the bottom retail space? I think I remember seeing a Starbucks sign, driving past. Ugh.

atlas · « **Reply #85 on:** January 23, 2008, 09:44:29 AM »

no, starbucks pulled out. currently, it looks vacant to me.

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