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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1295 on: July 13, 2011, 01:36:59 PM »
Maybe they'll 'accidentally' knock it down, and give it a dignified death. I'd rather that than it become the one stop emporium for 'realistic' gambling chips, giant stuffed horseshoes and Player's Club cards.
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1296 on: July 13, 2011, 01:39:47 PM »
^ Relating to the replacement of the Columbia building demolition:

http://www.gcbl.org/blog/kevin-cronin/city-discards-bicycing-and-pedestrian-plans-lower-prospect-casino-parking

Less pedestrian-friendly lower Prsopect....just what Cleveland needs.  and of course, just in time for the new Bike station to be complete one block away....great progress here 
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1297 on: July 15, 2011, 04:26:30 AM »
I sent a copy of the article to Mr. Robert Brown as to an explanation of why this plan was thrown by the wayside.  I will let you know if I get a response.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1298 on: July 15, 2011, 07:24:26 AM »
Cleveland Cold Storage:




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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1299 on: July 15, 2011, 12:16:00 PM »
Almost gone. I hardly ever go that way, so the next time I go by there it will be strange to see it completely gone.
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1300 on: July 15, 2011, 07:58:08 PM »
Didn't have the camera with me, but the southern facade of the Columbia Building had gouges across the top floor.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1301 on: July 15, 2011, 08:08:47 PM »
^Klassy ending for a landmarked building
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1302 on: July 15, 2011, 11:10:49 PM »
I know this was a landmark and all..... and I even envisioned it renovated and with huge glass windows in the spaces where the long indention were with the arched tops, and would have loved to see some rendering that shows what this could have been made into.......But seeing it in the neglected condition it was in for so long, I am not all that sad to see this one be laid to rest.
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1303 on: July 16, 2011, 12:56:28 PM »


I haven't really discussed my take on this - I think I'm more disturbed by what will be replacing the Columbia Building and the damage to the urban fabric of the immediate area, than anything else. Yes, it's a fine example of historic architecture but put next to comparable buildings (i.e. the Caxton), it's not terribly distinctive. The archway over the entrance, and a few masonry accents here and there and well... I think its role as a solid "filler" building is more notable.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1304 on: July 16, 2011, 01:00:08 PM »
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1305 on: July 16, 2011, 01:00:18 PM »
And cross posted in the Inner Belt thread - Cleveland Cold Storage is mostly rubble now:


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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1306 on: July 18, 2011, 02:30:52 PM »
Goodbye, old friend.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1307 on: July 18, 2011, 02:46:17 PM »
completely unnecessary

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1308 on: July 18, 2011, 02:56:17 PM »
stop right there!  we can fit a parking garage behind that!
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1309 on: July 18, 2011, 03:18:43 PM »
^but not an "I have arrived in downtown Cleveland Welcome Center"  People just would not know where Tower City was if it weren't for the welcome center.


@Mayday, I hear what you are saying about the architectural details, I just think with the building look, layout and especially location, it would have an awesome residential renovation. 
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1310 on: July 18, 2011, 03:49:01 PM »
Maybe they're numbering the bricks so that they can re-build the Columbia on top of the new garage?
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1311 on: July 18, 2011, 04:33:29 PM »
I am so disappointed that this is coming down for a stupid parking garage, oh, and a "welcome center." I agree with punchinpat, that building was prime for a residential conversion.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1312 on: July 18, 2011, 09:55:47 PM »
f'ing idiots

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1313 on: July 19, 2011, 03:29:23 AM »
turrible
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1314 on: July 20, 2011, 01:38:54 AM »
Proposed demolition on the edge of University Circle...Magnolia Dr is a GEM by the way, surviving most of Case's mansion demolitions in the 1960's-1970's along Juniper, Hazel, Mistletoe, and E.115.

Mt. Zion Congregational Church fights Cleveland historic district designation
Published: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 10:00 PM
Thomas Ott, The Plain Dealer By Thomas Ott, The Plain Dealer

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A historic, mostly black church braved a bombing that greeted its arrival on the fringe of Cleveland's University Circle in the 1950s. Decades later, the church finds itself in another struggle for acceptance.

Mt. Zion Congregational Church, at East 108th Street and Magnolia Drive, wants to tear down two century-old houses it has used for offices and meeting space. Rev. Paul Hobson Sadler said an addition rising in place of the houses would allow the church to expand programs that feed homeless veterans, mentor youth and train the unemployed for jobs.

Standing in the way is Councilman Jeff Johnson, who has proposed that City Council designate the church property and adjacent streets as a local historic district, a move that could make demolition difficult, if not impossible. The council could vote on the designation at a special meeting Wednesday.

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/07/cleveland_historic_district_wo.html
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1315 on: July 20, 2011, 01:48:10 AM »
"You can't fight God and prevail," Sadler said. "He's not fighting me. He's not fighting the church. He's fighting God."

Game.  Set.  Match.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1316 on: July 20, 2011, 08:08:05 AM »
Great, it's barely 8am and I'm already sick to my stomach.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1317 on: July 20, 2011, 09:04:17 AM »
I wished I hadn't see that photo of the Columbia Building being demolished. It makes me want to go punch someone. And I'll be damned if I'm ever going to set foot in that fucking casino, just like I will never go to Cedar Point or Kings Island after what Cedar Fair did to Geauga Lake.
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1318 on: July 20, 2011, 09:57:05 AM »
While I haven't gone so far as to boycott Cedar Point...and I'm sure my more suburban friends will eventually be dragging me to the casino, KJP you really hit the nail on the head.

It seems most every positive development comes attached with a striking negative.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1319 on: July 20, 2011, 10:04:50 AM »
^^I'm w/ KJP regarding Cedar Point. I knot up in anger every time I drive past the shell of what was Geagua Lake. I haven't been to Cedar Point since they shut GL down. Although, if I'm being entirely truthful, I hadn't been there before they shut down GL either. 

I haven't mustered a whole lot of enthusiasm for the casino, either. Maybe I'm just bitter, and I'll feel differently over time. Maybe if they give me a free stuffed horseshoe and complimentary player's club card from the Stanley Block store....
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1320 on: July 20, 2011, 10:21:42 AM »
I went downtown the other day with my parents to show them the Library(which they've never been in) as well as a few other stops. First off they loved the library, it is really beautiful inside. But anyways we parked at a meter and began walking down prospect when I saw the Columbia building half demolished. I had forgotten about it at the moment and it was a depressing way to start the day. But at least the rest of the trip was a good time!

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1321 on: July 20, 2011, 08:59:12 PM »
Columbia Building on Tuesday (apologies - it's a cellphone pic at 25ish MPH - no I wasn't driving):


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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1322 on: July 21, 2011, 12:33:21 PM »
I hope the irony of the Huntington Banner being included was intended.
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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1323 on: July 21, 2011, 10:01:03 PM »
^That was a 'happy accident'. Here's the progress from Prospect today:


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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1324 on: July 21, 2011, 10:16:10 PM »
Thanks for the shots. I hope someone from Cleveland gets some nice clear ones as the Prospect facade crumbles.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1325 on: July 22, 2011, 01:22:01 AM »
Again, this is so sad. I was in Cleveland on Tuesday and it was very depressing to walk by.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1326 on: July 23, 2011, 10:42:41 AM »
I was having dinner on East 4th last night when a guy with his family walking to the Indians game proclaimed, "Hey, check out the great air conditioning for those apartments!" ... referring to the gaping holes in the side of the building.

So sad that even to the general public's eye that building was viewed as apartments, when it wasn't, and could have easily been in a few years.

I've never felt so disgusted walking downtown as last night, seeing that building being crumbled is so disheartening.

What's more incredible is how quickly it came down. So funny how every development project in Cleveland takes years of planning and bickering and stoppages and starts and redesigns, but when someone gets the idea to tear down a historical structure, it's gone 2 months later. Just sickening.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1327 on: July 24, 2011, 08:31:07 PM »

The Columbia...Homes in Magnolia-Wade Pk district...the Cooper School of  Art.
More casualties in Cleveland's unstoppable march towards blandness.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1328 on: July 25, 2011, 08:28:06 PM »
Photos from tonight:



That's about all she wrote for the Prospect Avenue facade:

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch
« Reply #1329 on: July 25, 2011, 08:29:28 PM »
I shouldn't have opened this thread because now I'm really depressed after seeing those photos.

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