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Re: Cleveland: Restaurant News & Info
« Reply #5005 on: June 27, 2012, 05:41:02 AM »
Ruth's Chris... CLE still only top 35-40 or so city without one... since their departure from Eton, in part due to flap about Fleming's being allowed in over a technicality (different building = not same shopping center) or so it was rumored...

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« Reply #5006 on: June 30, 2012, 04:11:20 AM »

Hyde Park Steakhouse has put up signage now that they are within eye-shot of the casino.

We're having a party when the tree on the top of the Truman Bldg is taken down. Here's hoping we're soon raising our glasses in a toast to that "event."

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« Reply #5007 on: July 01, 2012, 02:16:20 PM »
Stopped by the new Burntwood Tavern in Solon last night... a former Max & Erma's, opened in recent weeks. Hadn't loved the one here in Chagrin in several visits in the 2 years its been open - but it's small and always packed so have tried to give it more tries than we've able to get it.. Solon spot is much larger - and hadn't planned to go so soon after opening - but, driving by last night, the large, rustic looking covered patio was crammed full of folks and drew us in. They've done wonders with the space - dimly lit and vibey with metal mesh light shade over the booths/tables and free-form blown hanging lights over the beautiful copper-topped indoor/outdoor bar...  Re-purposed wood everywhere... just looked super - at least during the hustle and bustle of a busy Saturday night...

The food, however, once again disappointed - though the menu has changed for the better since my last Chagrin visit- and is very reasonably priced - with choices from sandwiches to full meals..... Only 1 of 3 dishes - tasty and juicy Angus sliders - was something I'd have again. The small chopped salad my wife had is stolen directly from Bravo - where the local owners formerly worked - and isn't half as good as the just decent on there - plus was poorly plated (small, flat circle of greens on a too-large plate) to make the portion look skimpy - even for the modest $5 cost...  Tuna nachos - rare tuna on crispy wontons with spicy aioli - looked tasty (served on a rectangular piece of slate) and would have been good - if the kitchen had ever heard of salt and pepper... literally none on them... Better once salted... (though it took two tries to get a salt mill with salt actually in it..).

(Oh - and this is another one of those restaurants  - getting more common -  that offers to make any side/appetizer salad into an entree by adding chicken, etc... for $5 more or whatever... but then doesn't change the portion side of the original salad... so you've basically got a side salad with chicken as your main course... making salad eaters 2nd class citizens...)

So, we were underwhelmed.. but place looks so good and inviting - that we'll have to go back.. This might be one of those spots where we'll just have to find the right thing - the thing we like, that is done well - and stick with it.. So far, not having much luck...
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« Reply #5008 on: July 01, 2012, 03:34:02 PM »

Hyde Park Steakhouse has put up signage now that they are within eye-shot of the casino.




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« Reply #5009 on: July 01, 2012, 10:16:08 PM »
Stopped by the new Burntwood Tavern in Solon last night... a former Max & Erma's, opened in recent weeks. Hadn't loved the one here in Chagrin in several visits in the 2 years its been open - but it's small and always packed so have tried to give it more tries than we've able to get it.. Solon spot is much larger - and hadn't planned to go so soon after opening - but, driving by last night, the large, rustic looking covered patio was crammed full of folks and drew us in. They've done wonders with the space - dimly lit and vibey with metal mesh light shade over the booths/tables and free-form blown hanging lights over the beautiful copper-topped indoor/outdoor bar...  Re-purposed wood everywhere... just looked super - at least during the hustle and bustle of a busy Saturday night...

The food, however, once again disappointed - though the menu has changed for the better since my last Chagrin visit- and is very reasonably priced - with choices from sandwiches to full meals..... Only 1 of 3 dishes - tasty and juicy Angus sliders - was something I'd have again. The small chopped salad my wife had is stolen directly from Bravo - where the local owners formerly worked - and isn't half as good as the just decent on there - plus was poorly plated (small, flat circle of greens on a too-large plate) to make the portion look skimpy - even for the modest $5 cost...  Tuna nachos - rare tuna on crispy wontons with spicy aioli - looked tasty (served on a rectangular piece of slate) and would have been good - if the kitchen had ever heard of salt and pepper... literally none on them... Better once salted... (though it took two tries to get a salt mill with salt actually in it..).

(Oh - and this is another one of those restaurants  - getting more common -  that offers to make any side/appetizer salad into an entree by adding chicken, etc... for $5 more or whatever... but then doesn't change the portion side of the original salad... so you've basically got a side salad with chicken as your main course... making salad eaters 2nd class citizens...)

So, we were underwhelmed.. but place looks so good and inviting - that we'll have to go back.. This might be one of those spots where we'll just have to find the right thing - the thing we like, that is done well - and stick with it.. So far, not having much luck...

you dont HAVE to go back.  There are so many good food options in this city nobody should have to be relegated to a place where they had a bad experience. Ahi tuna nachos, i believe thats Guy Fieris signature appetizer at his Johnny Garlics restaurant, i could be wrong though.

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« Reply #5010 on: July 02, 2012, 01:05:24 AM »
^ Yeah, I agree. There's so many great options, don't endorse mediocrity. For whatever reason, Solon can't seem to hit on a great restaurant, and they turnover pretty quickly.  For F@#'s sake, they couldn't even keep a Pizzazz open. It's not like there are an abundance of great pizza places around (not that I count Pizzazz as great pizza, but a man dying of thirst in a desert doesn't turn away a glass of muddy water).

And don't say 'Jimmy Dadonna's'...just...don't.


On a lighter note, the kids were at grandma's house on Saturday, so the wife and I tried out Chez Francois in Vermillion. Yay! Yeah, well until we got there. Then the comedy of errors started. In brief summary I'll have to go back to get a better opinion. Saturday night wasn't their best showing.

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« Reply #5011 on: July 02, 2012, 01:31:11 AM »
And don't say 'Jimmy Dadonna's'...just...don't.

THANK YOU!  When I worked in Solon, all people could talk about was how great that place is.  It's really not good.
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« Reply #5012 on: July 02, 2012, 04:38:48 AM »
Dont people like Harvest Kitchen in Solon.  I thought that was supposed to be good.
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« Reply #5013 on: July 02, 2012, 05:24:02 AM »
Dont people like Harvest Kitchen in Solon.  I thought that was supposed to be good.

I completely forgot about that place. I ate there once, and the food is pretty good. Fun atmosphere. Weird location in that it's tucked in this little triangle between Solon, Bainbridge and 91 that I keep forgetting exists.

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« Reply #5014 on: July 02, 2012, 08:42:02 AM »

Wonder what will land here, such a prime location...

For Star at PlayhouseSquare, it will soon be curtains: Restaurant Row
Updated: Monday, July 02, 2012, 3:45 PM
By Joe Crea, The Plain Dealer The Plain Dealer

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- PlayhouseSquare will lose a popular dining spot later this month. After the final performance of "Mamma Mia" on Sunday, July 22, the curtain will also fall on Star at PlayhouseSquare.

After more than a decade of service, Star will close to make way for a new restaurant concept, but under new management, said co-owner Gary Lucarelli in a written statement.


http://www.cleveland.com/dining/index.ssf/2012/07/for_stars_at_playhouse_square.html
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« Reply #5015 on: July 02, 2012, 09:10:20 AM »
Star had its issues but I have to say I'm
sad to see it go. There was something so great about heading to Star after a show with the pianist playing show-tunes; something I feel whatever replaces it will lose.

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« Reply #5016 on: July 02, 2012, 09:13:26 AM »
Yes I agree that Start seemed to go with the vibe of the Theatre District very well (especially when you consider the piano player). 
It sounds like Mr. Lucarelli is getting pushed out though, so they must have a better idea for the spot. 
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« Reply #5017 on: July 04, 2012, 03:37:08 PM »
Jonathon Sawyer tweeted that he was looking at new restaurant space and indicated that space had been vacant 17 years... wonder where that coukd be....???

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« Reply #5018 on: July 04, 2012, 03:52:07 PM »
Jonathon Sawyer tweeted that he was looking at new restaurant space and indicated that space had been vacant 17 years... wonder where that coukd be....???

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« Reply #5019 on: July 04, 2012, 05:02:32 PM »
Sawyer tweet has now disappeared...

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« Reply #5020 on: July 05, 2012, 12:28:11 AM »
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« Reply #5021 on: July 05, 2012, 02:22:31 AM »
nice hyde park signage  - more revitalization keep it coming!!
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« Reply #5022 on: July 06, 2012, 08:41:31 AM »
We had been talking about Spice in Detroit Shoreway in the DT thread since they will be going through storefront renovation. 

Here's a nice writeup on the food which sounds awesome.  I have yet to get the opportunity to try "ramps", the foody treat that is only around a couple of weeks. 
It seems the "sophisticated"  :roll: foodies in the DC area have never even heard of them. 

At Spice Kitchen in Cleveland's Gordon Square, fall in love with flavors -- but on your next visit, be prepared to find something newPublished: Friday, July 06, 2012, 3:23 PM     Updated: Friday, July 06, 2012, 3:40 PM

Bebenroth pulls from a sustainable mix of custom-planted farm fields, restaurant rooftop container garden, a large plot behind the chef's Broadview Heights home and a multitude of local purveyors. "Don't buy food from strangers" is a Spice world mantra.

Bebenroth, and Spice executive chef, Brandon Walukas, embrace the ethos of using what's there when it's there, and then moving on. You can't always get what you want, or at least what you thought you wanted. But if you try giving in to the transitory nature of . . .well, nature and the kitchen craft at Spice, you just might find you'll get something even better.
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« Reply #5023 on: July 06, 2012, 09:24:34 AM »
Another restaurant company that is said to be looking for space in CLE for 2012 or 2013 opening, based on info I found:

https://www.coopershawkwinery.com/

just announced a Columbus location

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« Reply #5024 on: July 06, 2012, 10:14:58 AM »
Haha...another suburban oriented chain...at least it looks nice!!

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« Reply #5025 on: July 06, 2012, 02:18:51 PM »
^ North Collinwood?

http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/a-big-turn-on/Content?oid=2984073


wow very interesting. alan glazen has about the damn coolest vision i could ever have imagined - a startup 'hood for local chefs to try out their ideas. if he can make it so this would put cle solidly on the foodie map bigtime! not to mention for locals, it would be quite a treat to tool around from one place to another to try out items that might later become mainstays in their more established restaurants. 
almost like a foodie amusement park attraction. for sure this could work.

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« Reply #5027 on: July 09, 2012, 03:09:57 PM »
7-8 months ago Michael Symon hinted at opening a new restaurant- S&P Smokehouse- in CLE. Tonight he Tweeted about BBQ and I asked for update on S&P and he Tweeted back "gonna happen no worries" so that's good news. Originally sometime in 2012 was noted :but who knows. The new casino garage corner spot would seem a great location.

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« Reply #5028 on: July 11, 2012, 08:12:37 AM »
Cross posted from the Ohio City thread, some more info about Fabio Salern's new concept that will fill the old Blooms and Alaturka spaces on West 25th:

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2012/07/11/salernos-plans-for-w-25th-grow-thanks-to-recent-purchase

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As for the concept, Salerno describes it as an all-organic, fast-casual eatery — not a regular sit-down establishment. Think healthy, fresh food like rice bowls and veggie burgers.
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« Reply #5029 on: July 11, 2012, 10:12:27 AM »
Cross posted from the Ohio City thread, some more info about Fabio Salern's new concept that will fill the old Blooms and Alaturka spaces on West 25th:

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2012/07/11/salernos-plans-for-w-25th-grow-thanks-to-recent-purchase

Is this the type of place people were expecting?:

As for the concept, Salerno describes it as an all-organic, fast-casual eatery — not a regular sit-down establishment. Think healthy, fresh food like rice bowls and veggie burgers.


Huh. Whatever happened to the concept that had Sam McNulty worried? Am I mixed up with another project?

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« Reply #5030 on: July 11, 2012, 10:45:52 AM »
Cross posted from the Ohio City thread, some more info about Fabio Salern's new concept that will fill the old Blooms and Alaturka spaces on West 25th:

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2012/07/11/salernos-plans-for-w-25th-grow-thanks-to-recent-purchase

Is this the type of place people were expecting?:

As for the concept, Salerno describes it as an all-organic, fast-casual eatery — not a regular sit-down establishment. Think healthy, fresh food like rice bowls and veggie burgers.


Huh. Whatever happened to the concept that had Sam McNulty worried? Am I mixed up with another project?


i think it changed.  Perhaps Salerno took notice to the comments. 

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« Reply #5031 on: July 12, 2012, 05:54:03 AM »
The old Sushi 86 place has a new "coming soon" sign in their window.  This time for an Indian place, although the name escapes me now.  It was supposed to be redeveloped into a Southern foods style lace, but that obviously never happened.  Hopefully this will get done and give us a new spot that isn't just another sandwich place.

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« Reply #5032 on: July 12, 2012, 06:58:39 AM »
I wondered what happen with Symon's smokehouse concept, thx for updating.

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« Reply #5033 on: July 12, 2012, 08:47:07 AM »
Tried Vero Bistro (opened in June at Cedar/Fairmount) last week based exclusively on Jonathon Sawyer's numerous positive tweets (and apparently a radio shout-out) about how good it was...

Pizza - Sawyer said best of its wood fired type in town... For him, maybe... To us, it was fine... just fine...  Crust good, toppings/sauce - so, so... - total effect = eh... Of the same type (not both wood-fired- but similar in idea) - Flour is much better... Bar Cento (Sawyer's own creation)  is much better. Gelato was passable.. nothing more... Great upstairs loft seating area... reminds me of Europe... But odd, offputting - you-can-walk-into-it kitchen/pizza oven setup... Pleasant server. Limited beverages. No alcohol yet...

http://verocleveland.com/

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« Reply #5034 on: July 13, 2012, 06:28:22 AM »
http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2012/05/11/melt-is-coming-to-mentor

I know this shopping center, it's very close to our new plant.  Sounds like they will be replacing Jalapeno Loco, or Panera.

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« Reply #5035 on: July 13, 2012, 06:31:42 AM »
Here is the location

http://goo.gl/maps/iF7L

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« Reply #5036 on: July 13, 2012, 07:09:01 AM »
^^ It's not far from my old office. Jalapeno Loco is getting the boot, but as I understand it, they're opening (under a different name) somewhere in the same plaza.

Edit: ah...I clicked on ClevelandOhio's google maps link after posting. He beat me to it.
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« Reply #5037 on: July 13, 2012, 07:31:18 AM »
Its unfortunate they didnt end up in Downtown Willoughby instead.

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« Reply #5038 on: July 13, 2012, 07:40:48 AM »
The space they're taking is bigger than anything they'd have found in DT Willoughby. There's a big bar area when you first come in, then an even larger dining area to the left. I'm guessing they won't have as big of an issue with waits at this location (which will be an interesting experiment to see if the long waits at the other two locations are a function of high demand and limited capacity, or as I'm beginning to suspect, more of a planned / store created effect). That, combined with parking as far as the eye can see makes the location pretty desirable for a suburban location.

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« Reply #5039 on: July 13, 2012, 08:24:29 AM »
The space they're taking is bigger than anything they'd have found in DT Willoughby. There's a big bar area when you first come in, then an even larger dining area to the left. I'm guessing they won't have as big of an issue with waits at this location (which will be an interesting experiment to see if the long waits at the other two locations are a function of high demand and limited capacity, or as I'm beginning to suspect, more of a planned / store created effect). That, combined with parking as far as the eye can see makes the location pretty desirable for a suburban location.

All good points.   Plus, this is an area with a lot of manufacturing, which means lunchtimes aren't drawn out.  Ample and adjacent parking is a plus.
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