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« on: June 25, 2004, 01:01:09 PM » |
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Little Italy facelift to be unveiled
Planners want to bring more new housing, more retail and more parking to one of Cleveland's most popular neighborhoods. The Little Italy Redevelopment Corp. will unveil a new master plan at a community meeting Monday night. The plan will map out development priorities in the East Side neighborhood for the next decade. But some residents are already worried that the plan will focus too much on building expensive homes and ignore the needs of older residents.
heh bring on the yuppies and kick out the college kids?? this doesnt sound too good. if it isnt broke, dont fix it, i mean cmon. Go fix those crappy neighborhoods on MLK duh.
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the pope
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2004, 02:12:19 PM » |
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who is this redevelopment corp?
the old guard of little italy hates change.
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KJP
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2007, 12:28:57 AM » |
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I see two new homes are proposed for Little Italy on Random Road... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/crr03-12-07.htm9:30 Ward 6 Calendar No. 07-16: 2067 Random Road Unit 1 Patricia Britt 8 Notices Turning Point Development Company, owner, and John Koncar appeal to erect a 21 x 76 three-story frame, single family residence, proposed to be situated on a 40 x 167.64 parcel located in a Multi-Family District on the east side of Random Road at 2067 Random Road; contrary to Section 355.05, the proposed maximum gross floor area of 3,848 square feet exceeds one-half of the lot size, or 3,217 square feet; and contrary to Section 357.08, a rear yard depth of 10 is provided where not less than one-half the height of the main building, or a 17 depth is required, and an interior side yard of 8-7 is provided where not less than 10 is required in Section 357.09(2)A of the Codified Ordinances. (Filed 2-5-07) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9:30 Ward 6 Calendar No. 07-17: 2067 Random Road Unit 2 Patricia Britt 8 Notices Turning Point Development Company, owner, and John Koncar appeal to erect a 35 x 31 three-story frame, single family residence, proposed to be situated on a 40 x 167.64 parcel located in a Multi-Family District on the east side of Random Road at 2067 Random Road; contrary to Section 355.05, the proposed maximum gross floor area of 1,958 square feet exceeds one-half of the lot size, or 1,838 square feet; and contrary to Section 357.15, a distance of 34-10 is provided where there is a 40 distance required in any use district between a building erected in the rear of a main building; and an interior side yard of 8-8 is provided where not less than 10 is required in Section 357.09(2)A of the Codified Ordinances. (Filed 2-5-07)
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the pope
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2007, 09:07:52 AM » |
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wow, how deep did you have to dig for this one KJP?
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KJP
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2007, 09:12:42 AM » |
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Are you referring to the construction news or this discussion thread?
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DanB
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2007, 09:31:17 AM » |
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"One day, and that day may never come, I will call upon you to do me a favor. But until then, consider this a gift on my daughters wedding day."
--Vito Corleone
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the pope
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2007, 11:43:53 AM » |
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Are you referring to the construction news or this discussion thread?
the actual thread. take that wim.
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3231
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2007, 11:48:13 AM » |
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Are you referring to the construction news or this discussion thread?
the actual thread.
take that wim.
Pope, Just as Louise Veronica Ciccone is now Madonna, Wimwar is now 3231!
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3231
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2007, 12:51:29 PM » |
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Would you have preferred if i were C-3PO? How about R2-D2? Wimwar is dead. That name no longer means anything to me.
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JeffreyT
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2007, 01:59:48 PM » |
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It is the name of your true self, you've only forgotten. I know there is good in you, the Emperor hasn't driven it from you fully. That was why you couldn't destroy me, that's why you won't bring me to your emperor now.
Sorry, had to do it.
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3231
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2007, 02:00:58 PM » |
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^i was asking for it 
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CityLiving
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2007, 02:40:10 PM » |
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My family owns Guarino's Restaurant, the oldest restaurant in the city of Cleveland. None of my family lives in Cleveland proper, however, except me (downtown presently.) It may not be bad to make the area a little more "yuppy" oriented on one hand because there are some serious crime/drug issues there. But on the other (more obvious hand) you don't want to destroy the character of a bunch of century old businesses just to attract more people who are afraid to venture into something as awesome as our historic Little Italy. There is a lot of retail vacancy though and something does need to spur more development. Across the street from us looks really dead (empty storefronts, a closed night club, etc.)
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the pope
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2007, 03:17:59 PM » |
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Across the street from us looks really dead (empty storefronts, a closed night club, etc.)
club corbo's, ha!
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j73
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2007, 10:10:00 PM » |
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^^Maybe I'm blind, but I've never been at all afraid in Little Italy. Granted, I've mainly stayed on Murray Hill Ave, Mayfield & Random, but never noticed anything the least bit suspicious, let alone scary. Are the problems you're talking about along those streets or more on the back streets?
As for the retail, I agree the strip across from Guarino's is a bit shabby at the moment, but the rest of Mayfield and much of the parts of Murray Hill w/retail looks pretty good, as do the new storefronts for Battuto and the wine bar (although losing Gilly's was a shame...)
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3231
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2007, 10:17:29 PM » |
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^I always heard that Corbo's owns those storefronts (or maybe its the Dolce Vita guy). Anyways, I had heard that they are unnecessarily kept vacant.
I also wonder about City Living's assessment of Little Italy's safety. I lived in the area in 2005-2006 and felt super safe there at night.
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KJP
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2007, 10:40:35 PM » |
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I think Little Italy is one of, if not the best Cleveland neighborhood. I also don't see the decay City Living speaks of. Nor have I ever felt unsafe there. Very puzzling post.
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the pope
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2007, 07:31:17 AM » |
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^I always heard that Corbo's owns those storefronts (or maybe its the Dolce Vita guy). Anyways, I had heard that they are unnecessary kept vacant.
La Dolce's owner owns the vacant theater (not 100% sure). Re: Crime LI does have some issues and mostly it comes from the neighborhood kids, mostly petty theft and B&E if anything. In the grand scheme, nothing major, you'll only notice if you work/live there.
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LAsam
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2007, 10:42:01 AM » |
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I think Little Italy is one of, if not the best Cleveland neighborhood. I also don't see the decay City Living speaks of. Nor have I ever felt unsafe there. Very puzzling post.
I agree 100%. As a non-Clevelander and perhaps a bit more objective, I've never felt threatened in Littly Italy. I also find it to be quite charming, and it has an authentic non-touristy feel to it which I enjoy.
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Map Boy
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2007, 10:47:49 AM » |
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Isn't Corbo's moving into the spaces directly up the hill from their current spot? Where there used to be a gallery? The future of the theater is still a big ?
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the pope
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2007, 01:33:02 PM » |
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Isn't Corbo's moving into the spaces directly up the hill from their current spot? Where there used to be a gallery? The future of the theater is still a big ?
I think its a case of the old guard likes it the way it is.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2007, 01:42:06 PM » |
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Isn't Corbo's moving into the spaces directly up the hill from their current spot? Where there used to be a gallery? The future of the theater is still a big ?
Correct, Corbo's are moving to the old art studio next to the theater. The building they are currently in they do not own, and that's about all I can say. If anyone has noticed, they've opened up two more stores in the suburbs (not that we're very pro suburbs on here..). They also own the theater, the vacant club, and basically most of that block across from guarino's.
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j73
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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2007, 09:41:52 PM » |
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^Good to see they're really taking care of the neighborhood!  Sheesh...
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This post was from forever ago, but to answer the question... The crime is indeed mostly local kids messing with drugs/vandalism. I would not and did not say that it isn't "safe." I have NEVER felt threatened in the area.
I have, however, watched a business owner get punched in the face by a local teenager when he refused to take down an Albanian flag. I've also witnessed numerous fireworks being lit outside our patio wall amidst Saturday business. I've also been held at knife-point by a drug-induced member of "the neighborhood" saying that the firing of one of his relatives was unjust. I don't think any of these things should necessarily deter people from living there, but they're mentioned just to make sure people are aware that there is issues in that neighborhood.
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From the Board of Zoning Appeals, looks like an expansion of La Dolce Vita:
12106-12112 Mayfield Road
Flynn Properties LLC, owner, and Terry Tarantino, tenant, appeal to renovate an existing restaurant on the ground floor of a three-story building and include the addition of an 80 seat outdoor patio area, and an additional 34 indoor seats, situated on a 65.80 x 136 corner parcel located in a General Retail Business District on the southwest corner of Mayfield and Murray Hill Roads at 12106-12112 Mayfield Road; the proposed expansion being subject to the provisions of Section 349.04(f) and accessory off-street parking that is required at the rate of one space for every four seats, plus one for each employee, or an additional 29 accessory off-street parking spaces [good luck!]to accommodate the additional 114 seats; with the Board of Zoning Appeals approval required for the expansion of an existing nonconforming use, according to the provisions of Section 359.01 of the Codified Ordinances. (Filed 5-18-07; no testimony taken.)
First postponement requested by Little Italy Redevelopment Corporation to meet with the applicant and possibly find a way to remedy the parking shortage.
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MayDay
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"find a way to remedy the parking shortage."
Tell people to get off their lazy @sses and walk a few blocks.
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"find a way to remedy the parking shortage."
Tell people to get off their lazy @sses and walk a few blocks. As much as I agree about people being lazy, there is a sever shortage in Little Italy - even down at my end (Cornell & Murray Hill), the weekends have the streets packed - it's very very difficult to even find street parking down the road.
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Map Boy
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Don't worry, UH's new 2,000 car parking garage will solve all of the neighborhood's parking and transportation woes...
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Map Boy
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« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2007, 11:11:12 AM » |
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Isn't Corbo's moving into the spaces directly up the hill from their current spot? Where there used to be a gallery?
lots of work yesterday on Mayfield in the two retail spaces directly uphill from Corbo's. good to see progress, but I was sad to think of the old Corbo's going empty. Anyone have any idea if they're expanding or just moving? Also, as dated and worn as their old space is, there's still something very charming about the simple exterior on their current space... the signs, the lettering...
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8ShadesofGray
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« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2007, 12:02:55 PM » |
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My understanding, and I could be totally wrong here but I don't think I am, is that they're expanding to have a more cafe-oriented setting, not unlike Presti's.
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musky
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« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2007, 01:15:51 PM » |
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I hope so. They would do so well with that.
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MuRrAy HiLL
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2007, 01:39:34 AM » |
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There are moving right next door where you see all the work going on. They hope to be set up and ready by december for christmas season. The main reason is that they own that building but the not the current one where the storefront is (they've been renting this entire time!). The baking space and storefront will be much larger once everything is completed.
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the pope
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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2008, 09:40:37 AM » |
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well I guess its moving along then....
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blinker12
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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2008, 10:31:47 AM » |
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I vote here. That thread is a monster.
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« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2008, 10:38:21 AM » |
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^yeah, best to keep out of general UC stuff.
I'm afraid I can't support this design unless it has the lit, cursive "Little Italy" lettering on its west facade as proposed in the initial renderings.
OK, in all seriousness, are those west facing units going to have noise issues with the railroad?
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JeffreyT
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« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2008, 10:41:21 AM » |
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OK, in all seriousness, are those west facing units going to have noise issues with the railroad?
I live on Random Road near Cornell and my window is almost as close to the tracks as that - across the street, but still nothing blocking the sound but a narrow thirty foot street. The sound of the rapid every fifteen minutes is very soothing, to me at least. Some of the loud trains come through around 3am everyday, but only wake me up if I have my window open in summer. You take the bad with the good.
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3231
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« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2008, 10:42:48 AM » |
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OK, in all seriousness, are those west facing units going to have noise issues with the railroad?
I wondered about the same thing. Counterpoint: the Random Road Lofts sold very well and they are across the street from the rr. When I first moved back to Cleveland, I lived in an apartment in Cleveland Hts that was at the top of the hill. The train noise was very loud and one passes every 20 minutes (and I'm not talking about the rapid). Still, I bet these will sell very well.
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« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2008, 10:43:24 AM » |
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I vote here. That thread is a monster.
Hey Blinky!!!! It's good to have you back.
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« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2008, 10:48:36 AM » |
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Yeah, I can see them selling well too. But based on everyone's comments, remind me to look only at the east facing units.
What makes the trains loud- is it steel on steel moving train sound or is it whistles?
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3231
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« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2008, 11:02:52 AM » |
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^steel on steel. They don't sound their horns.
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Map Boy
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« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2008, 12:20:28 PM » |
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You know, done right, there are some pretty solid grade glass products that can keep the noise out quite effectively. I'm sure that will be a concern for every buyer who looks out the west facing windows and I would hope that the developer is accounting for it. That said, the west facing views should be killer, so those units should have lots of appeal!
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KJP
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« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2008, 01:45:59 PM » |
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However, I wonder if having large windows on the side of the building facing the tracks would let in all the noise, and be like living inside a parabolic microphone dish!?!
Be happy there are no road crossings anywhere near Little Italy that require the train engineer to blow the horn. I live 10 houses from the tracks in Lakewood, and am five floors up in a condo building with clear line of sight (and sound ) to the trains. In the summer, with the winds coming strong from the south and into my open windows, it sounds like the trains are coming right through my condo. Yet, you actually do get used to it!
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the pope
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« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2008, 01:52:17 PM » |
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However, I wonder if having large windows on the side of the building facing the tracks would let in all the noise, and be like living inside a parabolic microphone dish!?!
My friend lives in an old industrial building on a set of high use railroad tracks in Lansing. The architect and engineers went buck-wild with appropriate windows (i.e. airline quality or something). Yeah, you still hear it, but its really nothing more than typical "city noise"
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« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2008, 01:58:46 PM » |
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However, I wonder if having large windows on the side of the building facing the tracks would let in all the noise, and be like living inside a parabolic microphone dish!?!
My friend lives in an old industrial building on a set of high use railroad tracks in Lansing. The architect and engineers went buck-wild with appropriate windows (i.e. airline quality or something). Yeah, you still hear it, but its really nothing more than typical "city noise"
Those windows are insanly priced! As a super light sleeper, they are worth it!
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jpop
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« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2008, 02:09:37 PM » |
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Maybe you should cut back on the caffeine. And that's not a snide remark.
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« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2008, 02:13:45 PM » |
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Maybe you should cut back on the caffeine. And that's not a snide remark.
lol. Baby Steps I'm hovering around 5 cups a day, which is good for me. However, I've been a light sleeper since I was 10/11.
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« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2008, 02:16:40 PM » |
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Maybe we can encase some of the tracks in a big tube to keep them quiet- isn't this what IIT did as part of their new student center? CLE 2032?
Actually, I wonder if Studio Techne's new Rapid station scheme would help- doesn't it include a landscaped cap over the freight tracks right by this new building?
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KJP
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« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2008, 02:35:54 PM » |
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Maybe we can encase some of the tracks in a big tube to keep them quiet- isn't this what IIT did as part of their new student center? CLE 2032?
That would be a big tube! The railroad right of way is more than six tracks wide past Little Italy. Actually, I wonder if Studio Techne's new Rapid station scheme would help- doesn't it include a landscaped cap over the freight tracks right by this new building?
Even RTA planners admit that landscaped cap is a dream. They'll try to seek funding for it, but they don't have a lot of hope that they'll get it. Some RTA officials questioned whether it was even worth trying to get. Fortunately, it's still in the plan.
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MuRrAy HiLL
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« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2008, 03:10:49 PM » |
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FYI: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Litte Italy fest to benefit neighborhoodPosted by Maggi Martin April 26, 2008 13:28PM The Council of Smaller Enterprises will host the Little Italy Street Festival from noon to 5 p.m. Sunday at the bocce courts and Tony Brush Park in Little Italy, off Mayfield Road. More at cleveland.com http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/04/litte_italy_fest_to_benefit_ne.html
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Check it out, Ferrari Club day:  We had about 25-30 Ferrari and Lamborghini cars on Mayfield during lunch time.
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I was wondering why I saw so many Ferrari's recently, was that today?
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People still buy and drive those in this day of $5 gas and environmental concerns? What's the MPG? Not judging, just wondering. If you were driving a Hummer on the other hand....... 
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People still buy and drive those in this day of $5 gas and environmental concerns? What's the MPG? Not judging, just wondering. If you were driving a Hummer on the other hand.......
If you are lucky you will get mid teens MPG. But then again, if you can afford a $200k+ sports car, the cost of gas isn't probably that large a concern of yours.
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I love public transit as much as the next guy, but I've wanted a Testarossa since I was like 6 years old. I don't think the point is to drive it as much as stare at it lovingly.
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These are always fun...espically when they have the announcer there: Alta House to host Little Italy Bocce CupPosted by Sun News July 14, 2009 16:46PM Alta House again will host this weekend's annual John Anthony Cipullo Little Italy Bocce Cup. Hours of competition are 6-11 p.m. Friday, 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. Saturday and 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Sunday. All proceeds go to Alta House, a nonprofit organization that provides social, recreational and human services to the Little Italy and greater Cleveland communities. More at cleveland.com http://blog.cleveland.com/chagrinheraldsun/2009/07/alta_house_to_host_little_ital.html
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« Reply #62 on: August 20, 2009, 03:38:07 PM » |
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The empty storefront at Murray Hill and Cornell/Edgehilll be getting a new pizza place (very close to Valentino's to the owners dismay).
The owner is the same owner as Gusto. I believe they've already started converting it.
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« Reply #63 on: August 20, 2009, 04:08:24 PM » |
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The empty storefront at Murray Hill and Cornell/Edgehilll be getting a new pizza place (very close to Valentino's to the owners dismay).
The owner is the same owner as Gusto. I believe they've already started converting it.
That place has housed so many unsuccessful restaurants......
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« Reply #64 on: August 20, 2009, 04:19:48 PM » |
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^^No, the old art gallery. Il Bacio is still there and doing well.
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« Reply #65 on: August 20, 2009, 04:26:23 PM » |
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^^No, the old art gallery. Il Bacio is still there and doing well.
Ooooo, I haven't been over there in a while. So the, uh, mob front finally closed up shop, lol?
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« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2009, 08:34:11 PM » |
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Has anyone heard anything about any plans to rejuvenate Mayfield Theater? What a wasted space in a prime spot in L.I. Would make a great spot for foreign films, Italian films, specifically.... performing arts, or maybe even a small specialty market. Also, the corner red brick building...don't know the name...but the former Corbo's building. A great structure needing some TLC. Are they for sale? What's the word?
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« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2009, 03:53:34 PM » |
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To Murry Hill:
WOW that is amazing!!
You seem to know a lot about Little Italy. I saw a few of your posts and im really impressed! Are you from the area? I would really like to know more history behind it.
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« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2009, 03:58:48 PM » |
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^ Me? Noooo.... I am not from the actual neighborhood... but I like it and was interested in learning more about those buildings. I know at one time the theater was utilized in the mid-70's...was it not....anyone? I lived on Overlook, right above Little Italy and frequented it a lot. I am on the west side now, but still love it there. I know farther up-thread the buildings I mentioned have been discussed...and surely people want to see something done with them...But I was just checking in again if there were any updates
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« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2009, 06:49:25 PM » |
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^^As the post says, E 4th Diva was asking Murray Hill. 
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« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2009, 06:58:14 PM » |
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Has anyone heard anything about any plans to rejuvenate Mayfield Theater? What a wasted space in a prime spot in L.I. Would make a great spot for foreign films, Italian films, specifically.... performing arts, or maybe even a small specialty market. Also, the corner red brick building...don't know the name...but the former Corbo's building. A great structure needing some TLC. Are they for sale? What's the word?
Using the Mayfield Theater as an arts cinema seems like a good idea, but would probably face the same problems that plagued the old Centrum Theater in Coventry-lack of parking. Unfortunately when people want to see a movie they like cheap and easy parking. I wish someone was willing to restore it and prove me wrong though.
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« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2009, 07:53:54 PM » |
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Terry Tarantino has been looking into the old mayfield theater. Not sure how pending it really is on his agenda though: From: http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2009/05/cleveland_restaurateur_terry_t_2.htmlTarantino's wanderlust is leading him back home -- to Little Italy -- for his latest adventure. He plans to renovate the old Mayfield movie theater and turn it into a bar-restaurant. "I'm thinking of something with a Venetian theme that serves light meals and hosts string quartets and piano players," says Tarantino. "I'm still working on the details." Also I think there is a blip on www.littleitalycleveland.com/
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« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2009, 07:57:14 PM » |
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To Murry Hill:
WOW that is amazing!!
You seem to know a lot about Little Italy. I saw a few of your posts and im really impressed! Are you from the area? I would really like to know more history behind it.
I barely talk about it, but thanks for being impressed! If you want to know some details, definitely PM me. welcome to the forum
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« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2009, 08:18:36 PM » |
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Terry Tarantino has been looking into the old mayfield theater. Not sure how pending it really is on his agenda though:
From: http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2009/05/cleveland_restaurateur_terry_t_2.html
Tarantino's wanderlust is leading him back home -- to Little Italy -- for his latest adventure. He plans to renovate the old Mayfield movie theater and turn it into a bar-restaurant.
"I'm thinking of something with a Venetian theme that serves light meals and hosts string quartets and piano players," says Tarantino. "I'm still working on the details."
Also I think there is a blip on www.littleitalycleveland.com/
That would be great. I like his style and story. He tries to do something out of the ordinary...
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Etheostoma Caeruleum
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« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2009, 09:14:04 PM » |
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Has anyone heard anything about any plans to rejuvenate Mayfield Theater? What a wasted space in a prime spot in L.I. Would make a great spot for foreign films, Italian films, specifically.... performing arts, or maybe even a small specialty market. Also, the corner red brick building...don't know the name...but the former Corbo's building. A great structure needing some TLC. Are they for sale? What's the word?
Using the Mayfield Theater as an arts cinema seems like a good idea, but would probably face the same problems that plagued the old Centrum Theater in Coventry-lack of parking. Unfortunately when people want to see a movie they like cheap and easy parking. I wish someone was willing to restore it and prove me wrong though.
This neighborhood is a walkers neighborhood--and while many visit from all over and drive, that's fine, but I would not want to sacrifice this neighborhood's walkable appeal with a parking lot or deck. There are enough people within walking distance of this place who live nearby and could sustain the theater. I lived there for a while and rarely drove anywhere. It would be beyond me that anyone who does would not chose to walk to all the little jaunts--unless you were completely physically unable--and part of the reason many people are so unhealthy these days is because they drive everywhere. Given the right mix, promotion, I could see things be a success. The Tarantino idea sounds classy too... But I would actually like to move back into the neighborhood and would like to see a couple things open that are functional to daily neighborhood needs...Perhaps another small grocer....Not a convenient store---but a real grocer--no lottery or rot gut alcohol. Maybe a little more specialty because I like to cook.
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MuRrAy HiLL
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« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2009, 08:37:43 AM » |
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I would love to see the old Corbo's storefront (corner of mayfield and murray hill) turned into a decked-out Italian Deli. In my opinion that's the one thing the neighborhood is missing...besides a real grocery store. Spuzzilo's helps with things a little bit.
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Etheostoma Caeruleum
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« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2009, 11:55:34 AM » |
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^ That sounds like a great idea! Fresh breads, cheeses, meats, some good produce....essentials, etc... Imports. I shop at the food co-op still.... sort of in the neighborhood, I guess...but the main drag in the heart of L.I needs something as you mention that is complimentary to the theme of the neighborhood---and that would do it. I think there are enough restaurants at the moment...but lacking in the kind of thing you describe.
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BelievelandD1
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« Reply #83 on: November 28, 2009, 03:00:43 PM » |
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Does anyone know whats going on with that big @ss building on random road that was an eyesore??? In the last month they have knocked all of the windows out of it and i just saw some guys doing some work on it today. I always thought that would be an awesome spot for something...no clue that they could possibly do with it though.
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