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« Reply #60 on: March 30, 2007, 01:47:26 PM » |
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"Simply put, if you people in Gates Mills and Pepper Pike and Beachwood and Westlake and Bay Village want to turn your back on the problem, then figure out how you are going to maintain good school systems and get a good price for your house.
"You are not. You will get caught in the same decline that is overtaking Cleveland now."
Amen to that....
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Mov2Ohio
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« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2007, 02:40:27 PM » |
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^Yep take away the 82 square miles that is Cleveland proper and their (suburban) home values plummet tremendously.
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blinker12
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« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2007, 05:55:22 PM » |
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Hudson's mayor touting tax sharing He sees the region as everyone's future Friday, March 30, 2007 Thomas Ott Plain Dealer Reporter Hudson - Why would the mayor of a wealthy community like Hudson call for cities to share taxes? Mayor William A. Currin believes the answer is simple: Hudson's prosperity depends on the region's fortunes, and the region's prospects are so dismal that leaders need to consider radical ideas - like sharing taxes. More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com
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JohnOSU99
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« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2007, 10:58:30 PM » |
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"Advance Northeast Ohio" video on YouTube....
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KJP
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« Reply #64 on: March 30, 2007, 11:24:04 PM » |
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Currin is my hero. I love politicians who stick their necks out to reach goals that can't be reached any other way. Too bad they're such a rare breed.
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« Reply #65 on: April 01, 2007, 10:58:32 AM » |
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Think regional, just like in 1964
Sunday, April 01, 2007
Dick Feagler
Plain Dealer Columnist
When I got out of the Army and went to work for the Cleveland Press, an editor sent me to talk to a big-shot politician about the city's future.
I don't even remember who he was anymore. But I remember what he said.
"Regional government," he said. "That's Cleveland's only salvation."
More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com
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musky
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« Reply #66 on: April 01, 2007, 10:59:37 AM » |
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PD Editorial: Come together
Cuyahoga County's economic ills and grim trends prompt a new effort toward unifying government
Sunday, April 01, 2007
"If you people out in Gates Mills and Pep per Pike and Beachwood and Westlake and Bay Village want to turn your back on this problem, then figure out how you are going to maintain good school systems and get a good price for your house. You are not. You will get caught in the same decline that is overtaking Cleveland now."
- Sam Miller
The call for a unified government in Cuyahoga County has begun in earnest, as a result of comments by civic leader and Forest City Enterprises executive Sam Miller.
More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com
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KJP
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« Reply #67 on: April 01, 2007, 12:47:04 PM » |
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I often don't agree with Dick Feagler's comments because they are too narrow-minded, IMHO. And while he addressed one narrow issue - race - in that column, it's a significant enough issue that deserves a whole column. A lot of columns, in fact. And that's part of the problem. I'm glad Feagler is discussing an issue a lot of whites won't discuss publicly.
It's the issue that deserves the most discussion, yet seems to be discussed the least. This region needs race therapy, not burying unresolved emotions and un-treated wounds from race-related calamaties of decades past (Hough/Glenville riots, busing, etc) and ongoing calamaties (sprawl, crime/drugs, etc). If we can calm our fears, we'll be able to accomplish so much more.
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« Reply #69 on: April 01, 2007, 03:21:08 PM » |
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I often don't agree with Dick Feagler's comments because they are too narrow-minded, IMHO. And while he addressed one narrow issue - race - in that column, it's a significant enough issue that deserves a whole column. A lot of columns, in fact. And that's part of the problem. I'm glad Feagler is discussing an issue a lot of whites won't discuss publicly.
It's the issue that deserves the most discussion, yet seems to be discussed the least. This region needs race therapy, not burying unresolved emotions and un-treated wounds from race-related calamaties of decades past (Hough/Glenville riots, busing, etc) and ongoing calamaties (sprawl, crime/drugs, etc). If we can calm our fears, we'll be able to accomplish so much more.
I think he has come around in his old age. He has changed his mind on any issues including sexual orientation. Before you know it, he'll be moving downtown. I also think that race is not the big issue people make it out to be. Sure there are individuals who are racially ignorant, but the bigger issues dividing people are more class and economic standing then race
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musky
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« Reply #70 on: April 02, 2007, 01:54:03 PM » |
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Jackson appoints regional development chief
Posted by Olivera Perkins April 02, 2007 12:10PM
Categories: Breaking News
Mayor Frank Jackson this morning appointed Chris Warren, president of ShoreBank Enterprise Group and a former city economic development director, as his new chief of regional development.
Warren, who also served as community development director during 12 years at City Hall, will in his new post work to develop a "regional approach that will help build the economy in the region and ensure the future of the City of Cleveland," a Jackson statement said. More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com
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« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2007, 09:38:34 PM » |
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Miller sounds passionate about this!! I'm glad that he noted that silver bullets will not save the town. I think it's good that he's jumped in on this.
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musky
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« Reply #73 on: April 10, 2007, 08:14:39 AM » |
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Regional action plan unveiled
By JAY MILLER
1:59 pm, March 30, 2007
The long-awaited economic development agenda for the region was rolled out this morning for more than 200 of the region’s civic leaders, including Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher, Akron Mayor Don Plusquellic and Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson.
The action plan, called “Advance Northeast Ohio,” has been nearly two years in the making. It embraces a number of efforts already under way and calls for a series of regionwide actions to improve the economy of Northeast Ohio. Goals include greater cooperation among regional governments and improved programs to train the work force of the future.
More at crainscleveland.com http://www.crainscleveland.com
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« Reply #75 on: April 10, 2007, 08:52:55 PM » |
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why would he be in charge of the airport. Smith doesn't need another "layer" of management to improve the airport. 
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« Reply #76 on: April 10, 2007, 08:59:57 PM » |
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Hopefully, Smith will be left alone for the most part. He seems very capable.
I do know that Warren is very highly regarded in Cleveland.
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« Reply #77 on: April 13, 2007, 10:04:35 AM » |
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Good article from the Beacon Journal... Regionally, e pluribus without the unum Merging government services could reap big savings By Steve Hoffman, Beacon Journal editorial writer When the services that local government provided were simpler and times more prosperous, nobody devoted much thought to the proliferation of political subdivisions in Northeast Ohio. Even in recent years, with costs rising and tax dollars strained, most discussion about operating more efficiently is framed within the confines of particular school districts, cities, villages and townships. At that local governmental unit level, officials often muster convincing evidence that they are doing everything possible to control expenses and still provide the number and quality of services to which voters have become accustomed. More at http://www.ohio.com
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« Reply #78 on: April 25, 2007, 10:26:29 AM » |
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Not as sexy as a new downtown development, but much more important to our region's future. It's great to see the regionalism movement building momentum. Mayors see government cooperation as salvation They're promoting new roles for county Tuesday, April 24, 2007 Thomas Ott Plain Dealer Reporter Fearing that the region is on the brink of disaster, nine suburban mayors will push for a new form of Cuyahoga County government that they say could save money and respond faster to the county's economic problems. The mayors' plans are short on detail but include forming a countywide economic development agency to distribute federal, state and county money. More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com
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« Reply #79 on: April 25, 2007, 11:17:42 AM » |
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I'm glad the regionalism is finally getting the shine it deserves. Alot of the public officials seem to understand its importance, but if a poll were taken on how many CC RESIDENTS realize how important regionalism is, I wonder how many would be for the merging of County services.
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« Reply #80 on: April 25, 2007, 11:41:00 AM » |
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^^I'm glad too, however I'm not a fan of the mayors leaving the school districts out of the discussion (just as the PD did when it first brought up the idea of consolidated county government). It would seem that the schools would have much to gain through regionalism, in my opinion. I just don't understand why the schools are always left out.
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« Reply #81 on: April 25, 2007, 12:44:40 PM » |
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I'm guessing because the Bay's, Stongsville's, Solon's, Oranges and Beachwood's don't want to be "braught down" by lagging districts throughout the county. People probably automatically assume school quality would go down if all CC was merged when infact with all the resources that would be available academics could see a boost as schools have to spend less money worrying about non academic issues and can push more resources into the students.
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« Reply #82 on: April 25, 2007, 02:48:13 PM » |
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^^Not only that, but if CC were to merge Cleveland could push for school funding to change state wide with the extra added clout.
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« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2007, 09:46:45 AM » |
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I think it could be a really good idea...however...I also think that the school districts should stay the same. If my kid (if I had one) were to go to school in the Strongsville school district, I would not want to see them suddenly bused to Lakewood, Beachwood, or Collinwood. Busing didn't really work when it first was instituted...and I doubt it would go over big now. What makes a neighborhood a true neighborhood is knowing who lives there, the children who grow up there, the schools, civic pride, etc etc...Those things make it a livable place. I think what would scare most people is that would somehow all be broken up and the kids would be scattered throughout the city(county). If there would be some sort of definite districting..it may be easier to sell this idea. If not, I doubt many people would be on board for a county regionalization.
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« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2007, 09:56:17 AM » |
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I also think the schools should stay the same or only merge like districts that have the same state grade.
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« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2007, 10:24:15 AM » |
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The main benefit of merging school districts that I can think of would be to save money on purchasing costs through consolidation of spend. This however could be accomplished without merging school districts. Instead, a central, county-wide (or region-wide for that matter) purchasing office could be set up that could consolidate all spend from school districts and negotiate better pricing with school supplies distributors, textbook manufacturers, utility companies, construction companies, etc. etc. etc. I think the county has already set up a similar office titled NEOSO that does this very thing for public agencies (not sure if that includes) school districts. It's not rocket-science -- every large, well-run decentralized company in the US does the same thing.
What would be some of the other benefits of merging school districts? Frankly, I know little about this issue.
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« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2007, 03:22:52 PM » |
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What would be some of the other benefits of merging school districts? Frankly, I know little about this issue.
They could develop and share more specialized facilities and curricula.
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KJP
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« Reply #87 on: April 26, 2007, 04:06:43 PM » |
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Next week (May 3), Sun Newspapers will have a large spread in each of its 25 papers on regionalizing fire department services. I wrote an article on what Cleveland is doing (probably will run only in the two Cleveland papers, and possibly some of the inner-ring burbs). I also overheard what other reporters discovered in the communities they cover. Pretty interesting stuff.
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« Reply #88 on: April 26, 2007, 04:46:53 PM » |
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What would be some of the other benefits of merging school districts? Frankly, I know little about this issue.
They could develop and share more specialized facilities and curricula.
^That's interesting idea re: facilities. I think it would be an interesting analysis if someone would look at capacity & utilization of all schools in the county. Let's just say that most schools are in the 80-90% utilization range. Well that 10-20% of spare capacity probably adds up to multiple schools that could be consolidated if a county-wide system was put in place and capacity was managed across the network of schools (more schools would be kept at 95%-100% utilization). Less building with underutilized capacity = lots of $$$ saved due to reduced maintenance costs and potentially lots of money saved if/when schools need to be renovated. And you could also look at using the freed-up buildings for other uses or as specialized facilities.
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« Reply #89 on: April 29, 2007, 11:22:37 AM » |
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Well, looks like Sam Miller officially stirred the regionalism discussion back up. Let's act on it this time. Reacting with lip service -- and lead feet Sunday, April 29, 2007 Thomas Ott and Tom Breckenridge Plain Dealer Reporters Northeast Ohio is warming to regionalism. But if your furnace took this long to heat up, you would call a repairman. Three years ago, The Plain Dealer began publishing "A Region Divided," a series exploring how Cuyahoga County and its 59 communities might benefit by eliminating duplicated services, sharing taxes across political boundaries and planning with a regional view. More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com
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