Public accounting firm Crowe Horwath to leave Mayfield Heights for downtown Clevelandby Henry J. Gomez/Plain Dealer ReporterMonday August 24, 2009, 10:32 AMhttp://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/index.ssf/2009/08/public_accounting_firm_crowe_h.htmlAbout 45 employees will make the move to the Fifth Third Building in December 2009.
Ummm. Its 11 AM. Mayor Jackson, get off of CP time!
Local businesses playing musical chairs with locations does not really add much to Greater Cleveland. Now if Crowe moved because they were expanding and needed the additional office space that their Mayfield Hts branch couldn't provide, then I'd sing a different tune.
Quote from: TBideon on August 24, 2009, 11:30:06 AMLocal businesses playing musical chairs with locations does not really add much to Greater Cleveland. Now if Crowe moved because they were expanding and needed the additional office space that their Mayfield Hts branch couldn't provide, then I'd sing a different tune. I disagree... If this were a company moving from Mayfield to Beachwood, I would agree with you. But any company that moves to downtown helps create a more active and vibrant downtown. It is imperative for the entire region that downtown prosper. Therefore I think that this does 'help' greater cleveland, even if it's in baby steps.
^ The idea is to create a critical mass downtown. The more office workers that are downtown the more likely I am to open my store downtown. The more stores and jobs that are downtown, the more demand there is for downtown housing. The more demand for downtown housing, the more likely it is for a developer to renovate a building (or build a new building) into apartments or condos. The more people that live downtown, the more likely that more stores and bars and restaurants will open and downtown becomes more lively. Once downtown is more lively (and is perceived so) the more likely the college kid graduating from OU or Miami will decide to move to Cleveland instead of Chicago.
Quote from: MorningTheft on August 25, 2009, 12:05:08 PM^ The idea is to create a critical mass downtown. The more office workers that are downtown the more likely I am to open my store downtown. The more stores and jobs that are downtown, the more demand there is for downtown housing. The more demand for downtown housing, the more likely it is for a developer to renovate a building (or build a new building) into apartments or condos. The more people that live downtown, the more likely that more stores and bars and restaurants will open and downtown becomes more lively. Once downtown is more lively (and is perceived so) the more likely the college kid graduating from OU or Miami will decide to move to Cleveland instead of Chicago.All fine and dandy as long as you implicitly exclude Mayfield Heights from being part of "Cleveland." The perception of coolness isn't going to lure kids from OU or Miami to Cleveland without a job waiting for them in the area--whether it's downtown or in Mayfield Heights.
Want to create critical mass downtown? Induce Eaton to stay and expand. If Jackson and Strickland are really doing all they can to retain businesses they could at least convince me of that. If what they did is what they have disclosed to date then that was an inadequate effort. I also think the effort (at least public display of effort) was inadequate with respect to the loss of BP (couldn't we have at least kept the research facility in Warrensville Hts?), Diamond Shamrock, East Ohio Gas, First Energy, Addressograph Multigraph (Harris), etc. Can you imagine what downtown Cleveland would look like today if we had retained just two of these companies, all of them? It would be a miniature New York. The Mayoral culture for the past 30 years has been abysmal (other than Vonovich and maybe Mike White) towards big business. Corporations were evil and poor people were saints. I think we voted for poverty first mayors and poverty we got. Yea, yea I know about macro economic forces and look at other industrial cities suffering the similar fates but I just don't believe that a city with Cleveland's strenghts/assets is/was totally at the mercy of economic circumstances. We did nothing to make our luck and instead catered to the poor. There, I said it.
Quote from: Gramarye on August 25, 2009, 12:56:11 PMQuote from: MorningTheft on August 25, 2009, 12:05:08 PM^ The idea is to create a critical mass downtown. The more office workers that are downtown the more likely I am to open my store downtown. The more stores and jobs that are downtown, the more demand there is for downtown housing. The more demand for downtown housing, the more likely it is for a developer to renovate a building (or build a new building) into apartments or condos. The more people that live downtown, the more likely that more stores and bars and restaurants will open and downtown becomes more lively. Once downtown is more lively (and is perceived so) the more likely the college kid graduating from OU or Miami will decide to move to Cleveland instead of Chicago.All fine and dandy as long as you implicitly exclude Mayfield Heights from being part of "Cleveland." The perception of coolness isn't going to lure kids from OU or Miami to Cleveland without a job waiting for them in the area--whether it's downtown or in Mayfield Heights.I don't think anyone said that. Where did someone say that?
I agree with your first paragraph, not with your second. It's important to have a strong downtown, yes. If that downtown gets strong by pillaging its suburbs, however, then it violates one of the main reasons for wanting a strong downtown: to be an engine of regional growth.As I said, if the downtown location enables Crowe Horwath to expand more than it could have in Mayfield Heights, then the region will be able to say that it's actually gained from the move. Otherwise, it's just playing musical chairs, as another poster already said.I look to see downtowns grow by growing existing businesses (small businesses to mid-size ones, mid-size ones to big MNCs), forming new ones, and bringing in businesses from outside the region (preferably outside the country).That said, Crowe Horwath obviously thought it was worth the move, and it's a partnership, so all the principal employees are also the principal decisionmakers, so they obviously thought it was worth their while to make this move, and I respect that.