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« Reply #150 on: November 04, 2009, 01:13:50 PM »

Good, I hope you guys are right.  I'm skeptical as I know people that have been born and raised in Lawrenceburg and they don't like casino's and the riffraff it brings. 

What riffraff has the casinos brought in Indiana?

The funny thing is he is probably referring to residents of Cincinnati who travel to Lawrenceburg!
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« Reply #151 on: November 04, 2009, 01:28:07 PM »

^ :laugh:  Those terrible people from Cincinnati who are spending money!
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« Reply #152 on: November 04, 2009, 01:30:53 PM »

Let's face it, we all know who they are referring to!
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« Reply #153 on: November 04, 2009, 01:32:41 PM »

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I know it has been discussed but is there an on-site hotel planned for BC with the casino?

Maybe this will reinvigorate the 8th and Sycamore Hotel project (not sure if that is the correct intersection, but you know what I am talking about).

Also, as far as design, I will bet my life that the City, community, Urban Design Review Board and others will be all over the design to make sure it fits in the neighborhood and site as much as possible.  Also, this is much more of an asset and another piece of the puzzle to the attraction of downtown as a whole than worrying about casino and spinoff development as a competitor to core downtown businesses.  It is the same tired argument used when The Banks was proposed.
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« Reply #154 on: November 04, 2009, 01:44:24 PM »

What will become of Rising Sun and Lawrenceburg? Will they be ghost towns now?
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« Reply #155 on: November 04, 2009, 01:46:45 PM »

What will become of Rising Sun and Lawrenceburg? Will they be ghost towns now?

I doubt it.  They will more than likely see a decrease in business, but I doubt they'll close.  They'll probably have to come up with more promotions to get people out there.
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« Reply #156 on: November 04, 2009, 01:46:58 PM »

I would guess that Rising Sun will be hurt, but I think Lawrenceburg will do just fine.
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« Reply #157 on: November 04, 2009, 01:56:40 PM »

Good, I hope you guys are right.  I'm skeptical as I know people that have been born and raised in Lawrenceburg and they don't like casino's and the riffraff it brings. 

What riffraff has the casinos brought in Indiana?

The funny thing is he is probably referring to residents of Cincinnati who travel to Lawrenceburg!

Nope, I'm not.  Go there.  Talk to the residents there and you will know.
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« Reply #158 on: November 04, 2009, 01:58:23 PM »

^ :laugh:  Those terrible people from Cincinnati who are spending money!

nevermind, not worth it.
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« Reply #159 on: November 04, 2009, 03:41:03 PM »

Say it CincySal, tell us what you've heard.  No one will hurt you!  Who is it that the residents resent?
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« Reply #160 on: November 04, 2009, 03:44:48 PM »

Say it CincySal, tell us what you've heard.  No one will hurt you!  Who is it that the residents resent?

I think they resent the bitter suburbanites who come over to peaceful SE Indiana and trash talk everything.  That, or it's those nasty Modernist architecture loving Cummins factory workers from Columbus, IN. 
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« Reply #161 on: November 04, 2009, 03:45:41 PM »

Say it CincySal, tell us what you've heard.  No one will hurt you!  Who is it that the residents resent?

I'm not sure what you are going for here.  The residents resent the people committing the crimes.

Who were you thinking?  The same people who are going to ride the streetcar?
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« Reply #162 on: November 04, 2009, 03:58:40 PM »

^ That's all I was asking.  I didn't know there was an increase in crime in Lawrenceburg.  People tend to throw out the phrase "riffraff" to mean different things. 
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« Reply #163 on: November 04, 2009, 04:17:59 PM »

^ That's all I was asking.  I didn't know there was an increase in crime in Lawrenceburg.  People tend to throw out the phrase "riffraff" to mean different things. 

I don't know the statistics but it is just what the people I know live there say about it.  They were hoping the Ohio issue passed so it would take some traffic away from the Indiana casinos.
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« Reply #164 on: November 04, 2009, 06:10:36 PM »

Pittsburgh just built a casino downtown....I wonder how it is doing and how the surrounding area has been changed?
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« Reply #165 on: November 04, 2009, 06:45:26 PM »

An expanded article from earlier:

Work on casino design, rules to start quickly
No temporary casinos likely before 2012 openings
By Alexander Coolidge, Cincinnati Enquirer, November 4, 2009

With Ohio voters approving four casinos across the state – including one in downtown Cincinnati – lawmakers now have six months to enact regulations that will govern how they are run.

Ohio becomes the 13th state to permit full-blown casinos after voters were promised 34,000 new jobs amid recession and more than $650 million in annual tax revenue. Neither of those promises can happen until regulations are hammered out and licenses issued to casino operators.
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« Reply #166 on: November 04, 2009, 10:39:26 PM »

Pittsburgh just built a casino downtown....I wonder how it is doing and how the surrounding area has been changed?

Pittsburgh's casino is new, and quite a distance from Downtown.  It seems isolated to me, though the football stadium is close.  It would be a mile walk to the edge of Downtown proper.
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« Reply #167 on: November 10, 2009, 04:12:49 PM »

I saw a headline today that said the casino owner is planning to speak at broadway commons today, but didn't have a chance to read the article..any word on that?
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« Reply #168 on: November 10, 2009, 04:16:45 PM »

I think it started at 4.
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« Reply #169 on: November 10, 2009, 04:31:22 PM »

I just missed it... was running late from work.
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« Reply #170 on: November 10, 2009, 06:57:14 PM »

Casino Construction Due in 12 Months

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091110/BIZ01/911110360
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« Reply #171 on: November 10, 2009, 07:15:25 PM »

It never showed up on WCPO...stupid Katherine Nero...
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« Reply #172 on: November 10, 2009, 07:32:44 PM »

This article has some good quotes and more detail....

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/11/09/daily25.html

Gilbert details plans for Broadway Commons casino
Business Courier of Cincinnati - by Dan Monk Senior Staff Reporter



Casino developer Dan Gilbert said he hopes to break ground by the middle of next year on a $500 million gaming facility at Broadway Commons and be open for business within 30 months.

At a Tuesday afternoon press conference, Gilbert outlined plans for assembling a design and urban-planning team within 120 days and recruiting a casino management company to operate the facility within 90 days. They reaffirmed commitments to hire 90 percent of their employees from the Cincinnati region and pay prevailing wage rates during construction.

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« Reply #173 on: November 10, 2009, 08:54:03 PM »

All sorts of nice things in there, hope he can produce
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« Reply #174 on: November 10, 2009, 09:08:58 PM »

Chavez's bet paid off.  He's an inspiration for slumlords everywhere. 
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« Reply #175 on: November 10, 2009, 09:12:59 PM »

Long time to wait for his horse to come in, hasn't he owned that land since the early 80s?  I am sure he has made a ton off of parking in the last 30 years.
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« Reply #176 on: November 10, 2009, 11:29:50 PM »

I wish I could peek forward in time and see how many of these urban planning buzzwords that got dropped in this speech actually come to fruition. I'm not saying they're blowing smoke up the city's ass, but it will be an interesting project.
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« Reply #177 on: November 10, 2009, 11:57:15 PM »

None.  He's under no legal obligation to do so because the state amendment explicitly says the casinos will not be subject to local zoning laws, review boards, etc. 
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« Reply #178 on: November 11, 2009, 12:58:42 AM »

Would some sort of new BC transit center (built similar to Charlotte's) be too redundant in regards to proximity to Government Square and the Riverfront Transit Center?

Could it aid in the building of LESS parking garages?     
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« Reply #179 on: November 11, 2009, 01:01:31 AM »

^Well what would be sick is if a transit center was next door to the casino.  But that won't happen.
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