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Anyone heard anything on how this project is going?  It hasn't been in the news recently and seems to be flying under the radar.
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I walk past this site often and there is activity going on inside the building.  Additionally, i can see the construction elevator in the back from my apartment window and it moves throughout the day.  Its supposed to be done Q4 2014, so we will see if they stick to that timeline.

Bartlett Building is supposed to be done in July, once both these buildings are back online and functioning it will be great to see historic buildings being put to productive use. 

(I would have loved for 1 of them to go residential, but happy nonetheless they are no longer dormant).

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I'm a co-op with HGC Construction, the GC on the project.  I've been in classes this semester so I'm not 100% up to date, but framing has started on the top two floors and from everything my buddy has told me who is on site down there, the project is running smoothly and on schedule.  Looking forward to visiting the project on Thursday when I go back to work for HGC after exams are over.
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Was this building and also the Bartlett building abandoned before these renovations?  Sorry, a little bit new to the area!

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I don't think abandoned is the correct term, but vacant, yes. There may have been a business on the first floor of the Enquirer Building until not too long ago. I don't know for sure, though.
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Correction noted, vacant!  Well this is really good news with the new life in these buildings, well done.

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Renovation continues on ‘dual flag’ hotel
Bowdeya Tweh, btweh@enquirer.com 3:37 p.m. EDT June 30, 2014


Cincinnati’s first dual-flag hotel development is under construction Downtown at the former Enquirer building.

Since early January, HGC Construction Co. has been leading the project to convert the 14-story building at 617 Vine St. into a 144-room Hampton Inn and Suites and a 105-room Homewood Suites, HGC senior project manager Keith McDougal said.

Charlotte, North Carolina-based SREE Hotels is the developer of the nearly $30 million project.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2014/06/30/renovation-continues-dual-flag-hotel/11791663/
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"Rooms at the Homewood will feature fully equipped kitchens."

Where will these guests shop for groceries?
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Vine Street Kroger or Findlay Market?

Is there anyone on here who lives in OTR and DOESN'T shop at least a couple times a month at the OTR Kroger?   It's improved SO much in the last 3 years, but when you talk to the management or people at Kroger HQ they know that the wealthy people in OTR drive to other stores so they are only going to go so far. Remember, Kroger is an amazing datamining company.  They know exactly what type of person shops where, what days, how much you spend at which store, which products you buy, and often where you live as well.

They know that the people in fancy condos are driving to Newport.  But as more and more move to OTR Kroger it will keep getting better. It's a perfect size for a neighborhood grocery. 


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^-If they add another small format or ideally urban format store to downtown in general I think you guys would be set on Groceries without driving.

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I have friends in Chicago who walk 6-8 blocks for their groceries, or they take the bus.  With the Streetcar you only have to walk a couple blocks, get on the streetcar, walk a couple more blocks, take it back home, etc.  Eventually downtown will get a grocery, but right now it's not enough residents to demand its own grocery.  How many people are in CBD? 5000? the main reported number is 14,000 but that includes OTR & pendleton.  Pendleton is about 1000 and OTR is about 7500-8000. Westwood is 30,000 and it only has 1 grocery. Avondale is 15,000 people and it doesn't have a grocery store. Clifton is 8000 people and it doesn't have it's own grocery anymore.  Northside doesn't either (the Kenard Kroger off of Mitchell is Spring Grove Village).  The OTR Kroger should be used by everyone for the next few years until we had a few more thousand people downtown.


And back to the hotel... Whenever they get storefronts in right there it will really help that stretch.  Vine Street from 6th to Central Parkway is incredibly dead.  Hoping this development spurs someones interest in getting rid of those parking lots at 7th
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I have friends in Chicago who walk 6-8 blocks for their groceries, or they take the bus.  With the Streetcar you only have to walk a couple blocks, get on the streetcar, walk a couple more blocks, take it back home, etc.

I'm going to also add that the blocks in Chicago are usually 3x the length (or more) than the ones in OTR.  Though Cincinnati doesn't really have the walking culture that Chicago does.  People still have a mindset of drive to get everywhere.   I remember attending the streetcar rally and seeing people who lived in OTR going back to the garage at Washington Park to get into their car to drive maybe 4 or 5 blocks.  I also remember one year at MPMF when we were going to an after party by Washington Park and we were on main, several people in the group wanted to get their cars, but me and one other Chicagoan stated, its not a long walk and we wound up walking the 3/4 short blocks instead.

Baby steps, things will change ;)

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The question was on extended-stay business travelers...

Will the hotel staff direct guests to the CVS/Walgreens a block and a half away or to the OTR Kroger at seven blocks. More likely they ask if the guest has a rental car and then directs them to the Newport Shopping Center or the Center of  Cincinnati.
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I have friends in Chicago who walk 6-8 blocks for their groceries, or they take the bus.  With the Streetcar you only have to walk a couple blocks, get on the streetcar, walk a couple more blocks, take it back home, etc.

I'm going to also add that the blocks in Chicago are usually 3x the length (or more) than the ones in OTR.  Though Cincinnati doesn't really have the walking culture that Chicago does.  People still have a mindset of drive to get everywhere.   I remember attending the streetcar rally and seeing people who lived in OTR going back to the garage at Washington Park to get into their car to drive maybe 4 or 5 blocks.  I also remember one year at MPMF when we were going to an after party by Washington Park and we were on main, several people in the group wanted to get their cars, but me and one other Chicagoan stated, its not a long walk and we wound up walking the 3/4 short blocks instead.

Baby steps, things will change ;)

That's another reason I think the streetcar will be successful... lot of people saying, "Walk 4 blocks to Fountain Square? Let's just wait for the streetcar."
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I still remember the year I went to MPMF with a Chicago friend, and we were going from the CAC to a venue in OTR, I told him its only ten blocks we can do it.  His eyes widened like that was going to be a horrible distance, but I reminded him that 3 Cincinnati (basin) blocks could fit in one Chicago block :)

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It seems like this has taken a long time. Does anyone know why?

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Yeah, it seems like the Renaissance was a much larger project, and it was completed much faster.  Is there a scheduled opening date for this hotel?

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This is taking SOOOO LONG. I agree, the Renaissance went incredibly quickly.  Haven't heard a peep re opening

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I saw a sign out front a few weeks ago saying there will be sign-ups and openings at a job fair for the hotel.

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There are entire towns in the Middle East created from scratch, with 1,000 ft towers that are built quicker than this project. ;)

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The website says they are opening in April.

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There are entire towns in the Middle East created from scratch, with 1,000 ft towers that are built quicker than this project. ;)

Obviously none of you have rehabbed an historic building.  Even what one would think of as the simplest task can sometimes pose a tremendous challenge.  It takes a lot of guts, fortitude, patience and money to preserve an old building, if it's done well.

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Obviously none of you have rehabbed an historic building.  Even what one would think of as the simplest task can sometimes pose a tremendous challenge.  It takes a lot of guts, fortitude, patience and money to preserve an old building, if it's done well.

What I've observed is that common sense does not apply to these forums.  Buildings cost money and take time, but that doesn't matter to most here. 

The owner self-performed a decent chunk of work prior to selecting a general contractor for the interior build-out.  He also fired the first GC and I think had some financing issues that added to the delay.  But don't let the facts get in the way of some internet complainers :)

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Yeah, it seems like the Renaissance was a much larger project, and it was completed much faster.

I went to a tour of this building thru AIA Cincinnati.  The Architect of Record discussed how this project was done and how the developer operates and basically that for them, every day they are not open is potential revenue lost.  So they operate and make decisions with that in mind. 

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The Renaissance also has very questionable construction detailing/quality. It's nice at a glance, but there wasn't much attention given to the small details beyond the entry/lobby. It was done fast and it shows.

I'm imagining they're taking their time to get this right which is good.

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Also, I may be wrong but I think actual newspaper printing was performed during some period of the Enquirer Building's history.  If so, there may have been some environmental issues to deal with (e.g., residues of inks, solvents used).  I'm not sure though.

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The press is still in the building, last I heard.
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Looks like they are on track for an April opening: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/02/17/hamilton-county-hotel-tax-tourism/23585955/

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The biggest project in the short-term is the conversion of the old Enquirer building on Vine Street downtown into two hotels, a Hampton Inn and Suites and a Homewood Suites. They are expected to open in April and will have a total of about 250 rooms.

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