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« Reply #210 on: November 14, 2014, 05:48:00 PM »
The more I think about the feasibility - wouldn't Short Vine be a better choice to shut down for tailgating and a pregame street party? Calhoun provides access to thousands of parking spots under UPA and in U Square, so it wouldn't make sense to close those on game day, but Short Vine, especially after the current redesign is implemented, could be perfect. Especially if UC tries to use the former Pizza Hut/Blockbuster lot as the main tailgating lot, it could simply spill over onto Short Vine.

Just party at both, I say.


I think you have more students living closer to U Square. You have some Dorms, the 2 larger apartment developments on Calhoun, all the students living in house rentals down the hill from McMillan. Most of the Greek housing is west of Clifton Ave also. I think you can access the U Square garage from another street besides Calhoun. The street closing would only be for a few hours on a Saturday. I like the idea. Have Vendors put up some beer tents, and fire up the
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« Reply #211 on: November 14, 2014, 05:53:52 PM »
Huggins also had an abysmal record graduating the athletes that were bringing the success to the team. Only 30% of players graduated under Huggins. It was not just the DUI that did it.
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« Reply #212 on: November 14, 2014, 06:07:32 PM »
The more I think about the feasibility - wouldn't Short Vine be a better choice to shut down for tailgating and a pregame street party? Calhoun provides access to thousands of parking spots under UPA and in U Square, so it wouldn't make sense to close those on game day, but Short Vine, especially after the current redesign is implemented, could be perfect. Especially if UC tries to use the former Pizza Hut/Blockbuster lot as the main tailgating lot, it could simply spill over onto Short Vine.

Just party at both, I say.


I think you have more students living closer to U Square. You have some Dorms, the 2 larger apartment developments on Calhoun, all the students living in house rentals down the hill from McMillan. Most of the Greek housing is west of Clifton Ave also. I think you can access the U Square garage from another street besides Calhoun. The street closing would only be for a few hours on a Saturday. I like the idea. Have Vendors put up some beer tents, and fire up the
grills. Cheers

The scene in the 65 West parking lot gets pretty out-of-hand since you have a lot of parents itching for an opportunity to get drunk in public and the police can't get back there.  I've seen college students playing cornhole with their parents passed out in a lawn chair.  Another noteworthy apartment had a large saltwater aquarium in it.  Who the hell has the time and money when they're in college to maintain a saltwater aquarium?


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« Reply #213 on: November 14, 2014, 06:08:21 PM »
Huggins also had an abysmal record graduating the athletes that were bringing the success to the team. Only 30% of players graduated under Huggins. It was not just the DUI that did it.

Frau Zimpher was told by some of the BOT, get rid of Huggs. The DUI helped, how she handled it was awful. An Irony about Zimpher, when she was President at UWM she had a basketball coach that had a 7% grad rate for players that she didn't fire, Bruce Pearl.

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« Reply #214 on: December 03, 2014, 03:45:28 PM »
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« Reply #215 on: December 03, 2014, 04:08:12 PM »
It's already looking really good. Excited to see how it continues to come together.

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« Reply #216 on: December 08, 2014, 01:45:49 PM »
I highly recommend taking a visit over to Nippert. The scale and scope of the West side is pretty awesome. Photos don't capture it like seeing it for yourself.
That is going to be a really really loud stadium.

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« Reply #217 on: December 08, 2014, 02:29:00 PM »
^ The verticality of the press box/suites is impressive, and the view you catch of it from various nooks and crannies around campus are interesting. Prior to this expansion, the stadium was almost a surprise because of the way it is tucked down into the urban landscape. Now it still has that quaint feel of being a bowl sunk into the campus, but has a relative verticality that is unique amongst stadiums, so far as I know. I agree that it will be loud, especially with the amount of glass on the vertical face of the expansion, and the hard surfaces past the north end zone. It wonít seat a ton of people, but itíll sound louder than much bigger stadiums.

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« Reply #218 on: December 08, 2014, 03:46:28 PM »
^ The verticality of the press box/suites is impressive, and the view you catch of it from various nooks and crannies around campus are interesting. Prior to this expansion, the stadium was almost a surprise because of the way it is tucked down into the urban landscape. Now it still has that quaint feel of being a bowl sunk into the campus, but has a relative verticality that is unique amongst stadiums, so far as I know. I agree that it will be loud, especially with the amount of glass on the vertical face of the expansion, and the hard surfaces past the north end zone. It wonít seat a ton of people, but itíll sound louder than much bigger stadiums.

I seriously can't overstate the need to see the structure in person. It. Is. HUGE.

Because it is a shoe dug into the ground in the middle of campus, the surrounding buildings will contribute to the noise. If they ever expand the upper bowl on the east side and close the gap to Dieterle, it could rival 80k+ capacity stadiums in terms of noise.

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« Reply #219 on: December 08, 2014, 05:10:57 PM »
After the recent B12 Co-Champion deal in college football and Baylor and TCU being left out of the 4 team playoff, talk has started about expanding the B12 to include 12 teams instead of the current 10, and having a B12 title game.  Hearing a lot about Cincinnati, Memphis and BYU and Boise State.

With West Virginia already in the B12 though, adding Cincinnati and Memphis would give West Virginia some more regional partners.

With the Nippert expansion and possible 5/3rd expansion, it looks like Cincinnati is pushing to get the invite to a Power 5.  I think it would be great for the University to have this designation.  Even though sports isn't the end all be all in college, having that designation a long with the TV money would do a lot for UC.  Should be interesting.  The football team and basketball team can definitely compete in that conference at a high level.

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« Reply #220 on: December 08, 2014, 05:25:05 PM »
After the recent B12 Co-Champion deal in college football and Baylor and TCU being left out of the 4 team playoff, talk has started about expanding the B12 to include 12 teams instead of the current 10, and having a B12 title game.  Hearing a lot about Cincinnati, Memphis and BYU and Boise State.

With West Virginia already in the B12 though, adding Cincinnati and Memphis would give West Virginia some more regional partners.

With the Nippert expansion and possible 5/3rd expansion, it looks like Cincinnati is pushing to get the invite to a Power 5.  I think it would be great for the University to have this designation.  Even though sports isn't the end all be all in college, having that designation a long with the TV money would do a lot for UC.  Should be interesting.  The football team and basketball team can definitely compete in that conference at a high level.

We kind of had the designation, then the Big East suffered death by a thousand cuts ESPN. Wouldn't it be tragic if we joined B12 and then that conference was destroyed as the others decided to go to 16 members.
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« Reply #221 on: December 08, 2014, 06:22:27 PM »
After the recent B12 Co-Champion deal in college football and Baylor and TCU being left out of the 4 team playoff, talk has started about expanding the B12 to include 12 teams instead of the current 10, and having a B12 title game.  Hearing a lot about Cincinnati, Memphis and BYU and Boise State.

With West Virginia already in the B12 though, adding Cincinnati and Memphis would give West Virginia some more regional partners.

With the Nippert expansion and possible 5/3rd expansion, it looks like Cincinnati is pushing to get the invite to a Power 5.  I think it would be great for the University to have this designation.  Even though sports isn't the end all be all in college, having that designation a long with the TV money would do a lot for UC.  Should be interesting.  The football team and basketball team can definitely compete in that conference at a high level.

We kind of had the designation, then the Big East suffered death by a thousand cuts ESPN. Wouldn't it be tragic if we joined B12 and then that conference was destroyed as the others decided to go to 16 members.

Or we should just realign and have 8 conferences of 16 teams, with the champion of each getting a playoff spot - but that's way too logical, and doesn't make enough money for everyone.

At very least, the 5 conferences should all go to 16 teams, two divisions a piece, with the winners of each playing each other in a championship game to get a playoff spot. A 6th playoff spot should go to an at-large team from the other conferences.

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« Reply #222 on: December 08, 2014, 06:42:55 PM »
After the recent B12 Co-Champion deal in college football and Baylor and TCU being left out of the 4 team playoff, talk has started about expanding the B12 to include 12 teams instead of the current 10, and having a B12 title game.  Hearing a lot about Cincinnati, Memphis and BYU and Boise State.

With West Virginia already in the B12 though, adding Cincinnati and Memphis would give West Virginia some more regional partners.

With the Nippert expansion and possible 5/3rd expansion, it looks like Cincinnati is pushing to get the invite to a Power 5.  I think it would be great for the University to have this designation.  Even though sports isn't the end all be all in college, having that designation a long with the TV money would do a lot for UC.  Should be interesting.  The football team and basketball team can definitely compete in that conference at a high level.

Yeah I hope UC gets the invite. It is good for UC, the State of Ohio, might even help getting into the AAU. I like Memphis to tag along.

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« Reply #223 on: December 18, 2014, 10:40:11 AM »
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« Reply #224 on: January 20, 2015, 01:36:55 PM »
UrbanCincy update on the Nippert renovation: http://www.urbancincy.com/2015/01/video-86m-nippert-stadium-renovation-on-schedule-for-august-opening/
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« Reply #225 on: February 10, 2015, 02:13:23 PM »
I was over south of UC to go to FedEx and got lunch at Einstein's.  The view from the south of campus parking lot is great, never noticed before.  You can see the massive press box from there.  It is quite a site.  I want to get to a game there, would be quite a treat!

Has UC Football been selling out their games in the last few years?  (I know last year they played at Paul Brown).

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« Reply #226 on: February 10, 2015, 03:00:29 PM »
I was over south of UC to go to FedEx and got lunch at Einstein's.  The view from the south of campus parking lot is great, never noticed before.  You can see the massive press box from there.  It is quite a site.  I want to get to a game there, would be quite a treat!

Has UC Football been selling out their games in the last few years?  (I know last year they played at Paul Brown).

They were very much so under capacity at Paul Brown. They should never, ever play games there again, even if it means the big schools won't come to town (Oklahoma a few years ago wouldn't play at Nippert, neither would Ohio State). Though if UC gets picked up by the Big 12 as has been rumored, Oklahoma, Texas, etc. wouldn't have a choice.

At Nippert they sell out big games, and games during nice weather. Against teams like Tulane, Temple, SMU, etc. they are a few thousand under capacity, despite the fact that they win nearly every home game they play. I think next year many of the games will sell out because of the new stadium, especially if UC does well again. If UC ends up in the Big 12 I think sellouts will become routine.

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« Reply #227 on: February 13, 2015, 09:01:09 AM »
UC signs architects to redesign arena
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The University of Cincinnati has hired the architectural firm that designed Louisville's KFC Yum! Center and Great American Ball Park to explore options for redesigning Fifth Third Arena, WCPO reports.

Kansas City-based Populous, formerly known as HOK Sport, the company behind Yum! Center and GABP, along with Columbus-based Moody Nolan, which worked on Paul Brown Stadium, will serve as design consultants for the possible renovation.

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« Reply #228 on: February 13, 2015, 09:18:34 AM »
I think it is safe to say UC is going all in for the Big 12 / ACC, which is really good.  If UC joined the Big 12, I think a lot of alums who weren't the biggest fans would become much bigger supporters.  Seems a lot of UC fans that aren't die hard, really are die hard Ohio State fans.  Being in a cruddy conference can do that.

Iowa State is perennially is a bottom dweller in football, but they still draw 50k people per game.  Having teams like Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, etc. in your conference ups the ante every single weekend.  I think it would be a quick turnaround for UC in Big 12 football, they are probably a notch below most of schools in the conference in regards to overall depth, but it wouldn't take Tubberville long to bring more talent to the board.

Renovating 5/3rd is also a sign to the Big 12, "We have the facilities, we have the money, we have the alumni base, now give us our chance".

Last question, what is the tailgating scene like for UC home football games at Nippert.  Do they block off Calhoun and MLK?  Is there really much of a scene?  I am sure the frat and sorority housing is a happening place, but what about outside of that?  I miss Iowa tail gating, it doesn't get much better.


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« Reply #229 on: February 13, 2015, 09:21:07 AM »
I was over south of UC to go to FedEx and got lunch at Einstein's.  The view from the south of campus parking lot is great, never noticed before.  You can see the massive press box from there.  It is quite a site.  I want to get to a game there, would be quite a treat!

Has UC Football been selling out their games in the last few years?  (I know last year they played at Paul Brown).

They were very much so under capacity at Paul Brown. They should never, ever play games there again, even if it means the big schools won't come to town (Oklahoma a few years ago wouldn't play at Nippert, neither would Ohio State). Though if UC gets picked up by the Big 12 as has been rumored, Oklahoma, Texas, etc. wouldn't have a choice.

At Nippert they sell out big games, and games during nice weather. Against teams like Tulane, Temple, SMU, etc. they are a few thousand under capacity, despite the fact that they win nearly every home game they play. I think next year many of the games will sell out because of the new stadium, especially if UC does well again. If UC ends up in the Big 12 I think sellouts will become routine.

Agreed, multiple sellouts next year at Nippert. Also it is almost impossible to "sell" those first 5 rows along the sidelines. You can barely see the field of play.

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« Reply #230 on: February 13, 2015, 09:23:21 AM »
I was over south of UC to go to FedEx and got lunch at Einstein's.  The view from the south of campus parking lot is great, never noticed before.  You can see the massive press box from there.  It is quite a site.  I want to get to a game there, would be quite a treat!

Has UC Football been selling out their games in the last few years?  (I know last year they played at Paul Brown).

They were very much so under capacity at Paul Brown. They should never, ever play games there again, even if it means the big schools won't come to town (Oklahoma a few years ago wouldn't play at Nippert, neither would Ohio State). Though if UC gets picked up by the Big 12 as has been rumored, Oklahoma, Texas, etc. wouldn't have a choice.

At Nippert they sell out big games, and games during nice weather. Against teams like Tulane, Temple, SMU, etc. they are a few thousand under capacity, despite the fact that they win nearly every home game they play. I think next year many of the games will sell out because of the new stadium, especially if UC does well again. If UC ends up in the Big 12 I think sellouts will become routine.

Agreed, multiple sellouts next year at Nippert. Also it is almost impossible to "sell" those first 5 rows along the sidelines. You can barely see the field of play.


I heard no Calhoun, maybe doing Short Vine. Still hopeful that UC can use Burnett Woods for tailgating one day somehow. A person can dream.

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« Reply #231 on: February 13, 2015, 12:08:45 PM »
The problem with tailgating is that UC is unlike any other stadium in college football in that itís so intertwined with the campus that thereís no surface parking anywhere near it. Tailgaters are spread out thin, with some as far away as the hospital parking lots. Closing Short Vine and allowing tailgaters there would work well, though.

I agree that there would be a huge surge of fans if UC gets into the Big 12. If UC had a big win at home against an Oklahoma or Texas I donít think youíd see an empty seat at Nippert for a while aside from those first few rows maybe. Those seats are a problem Ė one of my favorite things about Nippert is that the stands literally open up onto the field at every aisle, but the side effect is that means fans in the first row are sitting behind players and canít see over them. I wonder how many visiting team fans get tricked into buying those seats thinking they got an amazing deal on a first row 50 yard line seat, only to discover their view is of the back side of a water cooler.

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« Reply #232 on: February 13, 2015, 01:13:01 PM »
The problem with tailgating is that UC is unlike any other stadium in college football in that itís so intertwined with the campus that thereís no surface parking anywhere near it. Tailgaters are spread out thin, with some as far away as the hospital parking lots. Closing Short Vine and allowing tailgaters there would work well, though.

I agree that there would be a huge surge of fans if UC gets into the Big 12. If UC had a big win at home against an Oklahoma or Texas I donít think youíd see an empty seat at Nippert for a while aside from those first few rows maybe. Those seats are a problem Ė one of my favorite things about Nippert is that the stands literally open up onto the field at every aisle, but the side effect is that means fans in the first row are sitting behind players and canít see over them. I wonder how many visiting team fans get tricked into buying those seats thinking they got an amazing deal on a first row 50 yard line seat, only to discover their view is of the back side of a water cooler.


UC sells section 127 and some of 126 for visiting fans, near the end zone so they have a good view. What they often do is give 20-30 pee wee football teams
the east side lower seats.

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