Author Topic: Cincinnati: Downtown - Smale Riverfront Park (Read 197371 times)

UncleRando · « **Reply #175 on:** June 19, 2007, 03:21:39 PM »

Yeah there are some obvious changes from the 1999 plan, but that thing has long since come and gone. I was thinking that the Enquirer was a little more up to date with their stories...maybe not so much.

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #176 on:** July 18, 2007, 01:21:44 AM »

U.S. House votes $250K for new park on riverfront
Funding for flood, erosion control awaits Senate OK
BY MALIA RULON | MRULON@ENQUIRER.COM

WASHINGTON - Cincinnati's proposed riverfront park got a sliver of good news Tuesday.

Included in a federal energy and water spending bill that passed the House 312-112 is some money - $250,000 - for the planned park that will be built next to the Banks, the new multi-use development planned along the Ohio River.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070718/NEWS01/707180390/1056/COL02

UncleRando · « **Reply #177 on:** August 01, 2007, 12:15:42 AM »

Banks park may get $30M from feds
BY MALIA RULON | CINCINNATI ENQUIRER
August 1, 2007

WASHINGTON - Cincinnati's riverfront park could get as much as $30 million in funding under a massive water resources bill that Congress is expected to pass as early as today.

oakiehigh · « **Reply #178 on:** August 01, 2007, 04:10:44 AM »

God I hate the Enquirer! Is it $250,000 or $30mill. What do you all take from that. I didn't know we were going to get any help from the gov.

PhattyNati · « **Reply #179 on:** August 01, 2007, 04:16:41 AM »

^ They are two different things

Water Resources Development Act = 25-30 Million for Cincinnati
The Energy and Water spending bill = 250K for Cincinnati

Johio · « **Reply #180 on:** August 13, 2007, 01:57:27 PM »

Has there been any talk or plans made about what to do with the parking lot between the Coliseum and the river? I just think it looks really bad (as do the steps and concourse going down to it.)

cramer · « **Reply #181 on:** August 13, 2007, 02:11:13 PM »

are you talking about the Public Landing? I can't imagine that going anywhere.

atlas · « **Reply #182 on:** August 13, 2007, 02:17:46 PM »

yea i mean, are they even allowed to get rid of it?

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #183 on:** August 13, 2007, 02:22:05 PM »

No, that is deeded as a public landing and will always be kept as such. You can always park there for free, but you have to get downtown very early to claim a spot (save for the spots the Showboat Majestic reserves).

UncleRando · « **Reply #184 on:** August 13, 2007, 04:00:06 PM »

When I spoke with a park board member a few months back I asked him about just that...and he said that it will be tricky to figure out how they are going to link the CRP with the other riverfront parks and create that highly touted connected corridor along the riverfront. I have faith, but I'm not sure if they even have the answer yet.

Cincinnatus · « **Reply #185 on:** August 14, 2007, 07:48:15 AM »

What we need is a huge marina to take the place of the landing.

thomasbw · « **Reply #186 on:** August 14, 2007, 08:05:00 AM »

If I remeber correctly the marina was going to be west of pbs

UncleRando · « **Reply #187 on:** August 14, 2007, 08:30:13 AM »

You do remember correctly...The corp of engineers will never allow for a marina in that general area of where the landing is. Apparently it is a narrow part of the river with already tricky currents. A marina, pier, or dock of some sort would make it even more cumbersome to navigate for barges.

Originally I believe the park had a pier draw in for that area...and I believe that was the reason for removing that element from the plan. The pier would have lined up with Main St and had a grand staircase of sorts that would have connected the street-level (out of flood plain) with the pier (in flood plain).

BlackBengal · « **Reply #188 on:** August 14, 2007, 08:55:12 AM »

Quote from: UncleRando on August 13, 2007, 04:00:06 PM

When I spoke with a park board member a few months back I asked him about just that...and he said that it will be tricky to figure out how they are going to link the CRP with the other riverfront parks and create that highly touted connected corridor along the riverfront. I have faith, but I'm not sure if they even have the answer yet.

Are you talking about the narrow corridor directly south of US Bank Arena and the Ball Park? One thing they could do to dress it up is tear down the ugly concrete stairway and pedestrian bride that hangs above Merhing Way and replace it with a smaller bridge that doesnt shade the whole block. But that might be more trouble than its worth. This corridor is pretty small and I dont think it detracts that much from the parks to have one block that isnt lined with trees and green space.

UncleRando · « **Reply #189 on:** August 14, 2007, 10:41:19 AM »

Here is another one of my legendary photoshop maps. Hopefully this will clear some of this stuff up for those unfamiliar. The span of parks from the far eastern edge of the the International Friendship Park to the proposed end just west of PBS is roughly 2.25 miles by my calculations.

jmecklenborg · « **Reply #190 on:** August 14, 2007, 11:03:44 AM »

The narrowness is not a big deal and I think the way the parks are already so distinct from one another is a strength. Hopefully a new generation of wayfinding signs will advertise the existence of the various parks.

A marina is a bad idea, Cincinnati is already well-known as one of the tougher areas to navigate on the Ohio River although it's much easier now with the Central Bridge gone. Anywhere where a river narrows, it's usually a little deeper and flows faster than wider, shallow sections. The current from the Licking complicates it a bit.

The big problem with recreational boating is that most of those guys are both inexperienced and drunk. There are many cases where they have been run over by the barges or have sped directly into them. In fact in a lot of areas the captains make deckhands go out on the rake of the lead barge simply to help the captain look out for all the idiots. Fishing also seems to attract people of low intelligence who don't like to admit that they don't really know what they're doing out there and fishermen get hit all the time.

UncleRando · « **Reply #191 on:** August 14, 2007, 11:11:02 AM »

I personally don't think there is a chance in hell that the marina ever comes to fruition...primarily due to the navigation issues for shipping and what not.

Johio · « **Reply #192 on:** August 14, 2007, 01:25:14 PM »

Quote from: The_Cincinnati_Kid on August 13, 2007, 02:22:05 PM

No, that is deeded as a public landing and will always be kept as such. You can always park there for free, but you have to get downtown very early to claim a spot (save for the spots the Showboat Majestic reserves).

Darn...you think they could at least spruce it up a bit.

oakiehigh · « **Reply #193 on:** August 14, 2007, 03:00:58 PM »

I started a thread in Architecture and Preservation about this but their is a chance the Delta Queen may be Decommissioned in the coming year. I hate to see it but I would rather see her find a permanant home down near this park rather than at an Evansville cove.

UncleRando · « **Reply #194 on:** August 14, 2007, 03:05:28 PM »

Quote from: oakiehigh on August 14, 2007, 03:00:58 PM

I started a thread in Architecture and Preservation about this but their is a chance the Delta Queen may be Decommissioned in the coming year. I hate to see it but I would rather see her find a permanant home down near this park rather than at an Evansville cove.

That would be nice...lets hope that some sound decisions are made and that the right thing is done.

UncleRando · « **Reply #195 on:** September 25, 2007, 11:51:18 AM »

Senate OKs $32M for riverfront park, other regional projects
September 25, 2007 | CINCINNATI BUSINESS COURIER

CINCINNATI - The U.S. Senate approved $32 million Monday night for water resources development for Cincinnati and Dayton, including a long-awaited park on Cincinnati's riverfront.

Sherman Cahal · « **Reply #196 on:** September 25, 2007, 12:57:50 PM »

This is great news! Is there a list of other projects mentioned in the act? I can't seem to find an online copy...

UncleRando · « **Reply #197 on:** September 25, 2007, 01:20:02 PM »

I saw it once...and it is really difficult to locate and it is quite broken up. If I still had a link and/or document I would be happy to let you know.

BDRUF · « **Reply #198 on:** September 25, 2007, 01:28:03 PM »

Does anyone know the price tag on the entire construction of the Riverfront Park?

buildingcincinnati · « **Reply #199 on:** September 25, 2007, 06:09:41 PM »

^ $80 million according to the project website.

UncleRando · « **Reply #200 on:** September 28, 2007, 03:40:02 AM »

Higher density may help parks
BY DAN MONK | CINCINNATI BUSINESS COURIER
September 28, 2007

DOWNTOWN - A higher-density Banks project would improve Cincinnati's central riverfront park by providing more acreage for public green space and a stable funding source to maintain the property.

beachkbk · « **Reply #201 on:** October 06, 2007, 08:53:21 AM »

Has there been any description of the adventure play areas? I have seen some playgound structures that are like ships (http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/Princess_Diana_Memorial_Playground.jpg). Maybe a big barge would keep with the Ohio River theme *grin*. It would address the lack of a sandbox mentioned earlier.

UncleRando · « **Reply #202 on:** October 06, 2007, 08:58:34 AM »

I remember them talking about something like an archaeological dig area of sorts. This is where the city originally grew and I'm not sure, but there may be some remains still in that area. They have done some research and plan some more as they develop this park.

This would be right around the foot of the bridge...so if there are other areas for this kind of activity, they'll probably have a different scope.

Sherman Cahal · « **Reply #203 on:** October 06, 2007, 01:48:42 PM »

Quote from: beachkbk on October 06, 2007, 08:53:21 AM

Has there been any description of the adventure play areas? I have seen some playgound structures that are like ships (http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/Princess_Diana_Memorial_Playground.jpg). Maybe a big barge would keep with the Ohio River theme *grin*. It would address the lack of a sandbox mentioned earlier.

I wouldn't mind seeing a water feature being installed. Not a public swimming pool -- which are expensive to maintain and are no longer financially viable for many areas -- but squirting fountains, play areas, etc.

dmerkow · « **Reply #204 on:** October 06, 2007, 05:03:06 PM »

There is actually already one along the riverfront, it is down a bit further behind Serpentine Wall, at the base of the One Lytle Place. Lifeguarded there a few years ago. It is about two feet deep all around with waterfall steps. Other than a paint job, it is pretty cool.

oakiehigh · « **Reply #205 on:** November 09, 2007, 10:41:42 AM »

CARRY ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

President Veto Override Is Good For Banks
Contributor: Kevin Delaney
Email: kdelaney@wcpo.com
Contributor: Ian Preuth
Last Update: 5:19 pm

Plans for the Riverfront park that's part of the Banks Project are moving forward.

The federal funding for the Banks Park is part of a $23 billion water resources bill.

President Bush vetoed that bill on Thursday, but the Senate over-rode the veto.

The bill provides millions of dollars to fund the project.

thomasbw · « **Reply #206 on:** November 09, 2007, 05:53:44 PM »

the park will be the part of the banks i frequent the most

The_Cincinnati_Kid · « **Reply #207 on:** April 22, 2008, 02:44:15 AM »

City park at Banks must wait its turn
Finishing garage work comes first
BY KEITH T. REED | KREED@ENQUIRER.COM

Construction of the riverfront park that will be back yard to The Banks - and Cincinnati's front door - won't start for months.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080422/NEWS01/804220351/1056/COL02

UncleRando · « **Reply #208 on:** April 22, 2008, 03:10:03 AM »

Open lawn spaces are the best spaces in parks...especially for young people. You'll always find people laying out, reading, eating, playing football, tossing frisbee, etc. I tend to think that YPs are more interested in less structured park spaces where they can create their own fun. That 12 acre lawn should be a great addition to the Downtown area.

hohum · « **Reply #209 on:** April 22, 2008, 03:19:43 AM »

^ has anyone heard if they will be allowing dogs in the park, or is it going to be another fountain square?

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Author Topic: Cincinnati: Downtown - Smale Riverfront Park (Read 197371 times)