Author Topic: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments (Read 105774 times)

jjames0408 · « **Reply #490 on:** May 09, 2012, 05:02:16 AM »

The Waterstreet Grille/Sixth City Diner is being filled again in WHD with Charkha: exotic Indian cuisine.

Pugu · « **Reply #491 on:** May 09, 2012, 05:14:21 AM »

^ Excellent! we need good Indian downtown. Indigo on Prospect had crazy bad hours, then, closed down, I think.

jborger · « **Reply #492 on:** May 09, 2012, 05:19:38 AM »

Indian is nice, but I liked that Waterstreet/Sixth City catered to WHD residents for breakfast on weekends.

Hootenany · « **Reply #493 on:** May 09, 2012, 06:08:27 AM »

^True, they had a decent breakfast. I've noticed some bars are starting to offer Saturday and Sunday brunch. Nauti Mermaid and The Map Room now offer modest weekend brunch options.

Clueless,Ohio · « **Reply #494 on:** July 13, 2012, 01:02:30 PM »

Looks like a vacant storefront on W. 9th has been leased.
THe space once known as Style Lounge(?) is now a tattoo place.

stpats44113 · « **Reply #495 on:** July 13, 2012, 11:22:05 PM »

I saw that last night. I actually don't hate it for some reason?

Clueless,Ohio · « **Reply #496 on:** July 15, 2012, 12:43:38 PM »

Now if only W. 6th and W. 9th could get re-paved so nicely

dar124 · « **Reply #497 on:** July 26, 2012, 06:38:17 AM »

Quote from: Clueless,Ohio on July 15, 2012, 12:43:38 PM

Now if only W. 6th and W. 9th could get re-paved so nicely

I would hope that a good repaving for W.6th and W.9th would coincide with the completion of the E&Y tower. Hopefully?!?!

surfohio · « **Reply #498 on:** July 26, 2012, 06:41:16 AM »

I prefer this kind of "paving" for WHD.

eurokie · « **Reply #499 on:** July 26, 2012, 04:38:45 PM »

Quote from: surfohio on July 26, 2012, 06:41:16 AM

I prefer this kind of "paving" for WHD.

There are several cities, even in the U.S., that require surface paving in parking lots or driveways to be cobblestone. That's actually standard almost everywhere in Europe.

surfohio · « **Reply #500 on:** July 27, 2012, 01:07:01 AM »

Quote from: eurokie on July 26, 2012, 04:38:45 PM

Quote from: surfohio on July 26, 2012, 06:41:16 AM
I prefer this kind of "paving" for WHD.

There are several cities, even in the U.S., that require surface paving in parking lots or driveways to be cobblestone. That's actually standard almost everywhere in Europe.

I'd love to see a cost benefit analysis of using better looking materials. So much of our cities are asphalt, and so much of that asphalt looks terrible. Where I live, near Madison in Lakewood, I'd say that poor looking asphalt is the dominant physical feature.

Anyhow, if a section of downtown deserves some street improvements, it's the WHD.

KJP · « **Reply #501 on:** July 27, 2012, 02:18:27 AM »

Visually, I love cobblestones. But older people hate walking on them.

tradition7 · « **Reply #502 on:** July 27, 2012, 02:24:58 AM »

On another note, the WHD seems to be struggling with the closing of Bar Flyy and the the "remodeling" of Sushi Rock. Between the restaurants on East 4th and the bars on West 25th I think they are losing a lot of business compared to 4-5 years ago. Also with the Flats opening soon it will be interesting how this neighborhood transforms, it at all.

surfohio · « **Reply #503 on:** July 27, 2012, 02:28:34 AM »

Quote from: tradition7 on July 27, 2012, 02:24:58 AM

On another note, the WHD seems to be struggling with the closing of Bar Flyy and the the "remodeling" of Sushi Rock. Between the restaurants on East 4th and the bars on West 25th I think they are losing a lot of business compared to 4-5 years ago. Also with the Flats opening soon it will be interesting how this neighborhood transforms, it at all.

I think the closing of Phoenix Coffee was a bellwether event.

ClevelandOhio · « **Reply #504 on:** July 27, 2012, 02:30:04 AM »

Looks like they plan on it for West 6th, between Lakeside and St. Clair. Nothing for West 9th though that I see. East 9th will be getting a resurfacing though finally.

eclongshot · « **Reply #505 on:** August 06, 2012, 03:23:35 AM »

Anyone know anything about Fortress closing and a dog groomer going in? Heard this rumor, but couldn't find anything to back it up.

Hootenany · « **Reply #506 on:** August 06, 2012, 03:26:55 AM »

^A few months ago I spoke with someone that apparently had plans to open a "pet hotel" in the WHD. Club Fortress was not one of the possible locations he mentioned though.

Floods7 · « **Reply #507 on:** August 09, 2012, 01:19:26 AM »

As for Tomo, they are being held up by the owners bad rep brought upon by his other owned property, Scripts. The city is holding up the liquor license not to mention the resistance brought upon by other warehouse district owners and residence. If someone else was opening Tomo, it would he open by now. It will only take time but eventually he will get his liquor license with the help of lawyers... That is if he wants to wait that long and put that much money into fighting it.

As for Fortress closing... Good riddance. Nice people working there and I feel bad they need to look for new jobs but that place needed to go.

StrapHanger · « **Reply #508 on:** August 09, 2012, 01:41:13 AM »

I know nothing of Fortress, but pet groomer replacing club sounds like a good step towards a more sustainable residential neighborhood - party district balance.

Klingaling87 · « **Reply #509 on:** August 19, 2012, 04:53:35 AM »

RTA's plan for a West Side transit center: Whatever happened to ...?: http://bit.ly/NU6trl

I'm on my phone, so I hope the link works. But I really really hope this project and the residential component go through. I can honestly say that I would be amongst the first to sign a lease if this comes to fruition... I'm that excited about the possibilities.

Mov2Ohio · « **Reply #510 on:** August 19, 2012, 05:09:48 AM »

I wonder if there would be a way for the County to incorporate new office space in this project so it'd have residential, office and a transit hub.

Klingaling87 · « **Reply #511 on:** August 19, 2012, 05:44:07 AM »

Quote from: Mov2Ohio on August 19, 2012, 05:09:48 AM

I wonder if there would be a way for the County to incorporate new office space in this project so it'd have residential, office and a transit hub.

IMO, I don't want the county to move into a new building, only because we are oversaturated with office space at the moment, albeit it's not class A we are oversaturated with. I just hope this project moves forward and the residential component doesn't hinge on something like the county (or another player) having office space with it.

MuRrAy HiLL · « **Reply #512 on:** August 19, 2012, 06:01:10 AM »

Quote from: eclongshot on August 06, 2012, 03:23:35 AM

Anyone know anything about Fortress closing and a dog groomer going in? Heard this rumor, but couldn't find anything to back it up.

I've heard rumblings of a potential jazz-themed place taking it's place. I won't name my sources, but it was at least a consideration a couple months ago.

KJP · « **Reply #513 on:** August 19, 2012, 06:07:23 AM »

Quote from: Klingaling87 on August 19, 2012, 05:44:07 AM

Quote from: Mov2Ohio on August 19, 2012, 05:09:48 AM
I wonder if there would be a way for the County to incorporate new office space in this project so it'd have residential, office and a transit hub.

IMO, I don't want the county to move into a new building, only because we are oversaturated with office space at the moment, albeit it's not class A we are oversaturated with. I just hope this project moves forward and the residential component doesn't hinge on something like the county (or another player) having office space with it.

RTA folks told me the office tower was originally included in the plan to attract the county to it. But county officials said they weren't interested in it. They seem to be more interested in using an existing office building downtown -- likely the old Huntington Building at East Ninth and Euclid.

Still, having a large parking deck in that block of the WHD (which also includes a parcel bought by Forest City Enterprises in 2010) devalues the remaining surface lots as places to park, and increases the value of non-parking uses in the WHD. I am hopeful this transit center will have the intended effect of improving the chances of developing the remaining lots in the Parking Lot District, er, Warehouse District.

Klingaling87 · « **Reply #514 on:** August 19, 2012, 06:23:41 AM »

^ I consider that good news, then.

Clueless,Ohio · « **Reply #515 on:** September 12, 2012, 10:58:41 AM »

Some notes from the WHD:

El Guero on W. 9th has become the good burritto place that I had hoped for, imo. Im satisfied with the changes they've mae since first opening and I will continue go there even when CHipotle sets up downtown. I will go to both because the non-pharmed food at CHipotle always pulls me back. Hopefully, EG will be around for a while... and they will... as long as they get the support to remain open.

Per Barroco's FB page, they are getting real close to opening. Although openings in Cleveland are taking forever lately so Im not holding my breath. Sounds like it's gonna be worth the wait. It'll be a welcome addition for w. 6th, specifically for what I refer to as the 'goofy' side of W. 6th (b/t W. St Clair and Lakeside).

Tomo has had a lot of activity inside and out the last couple days. I feel like the removal of that shady place in FEB has let the owner of Tomo focus on getting [Tomo] open. As I commented in the FEB thread.

Fortress has closed. Sayonara! It never did contribute anything to the WHD.

It was nice to see BarFly closed, but it has quietly become "Rumor". Probably close to opening. Was hoping for a non-nightclub at this space. That scene is very fickle right now in the WHD anyway.

Sushi Rock just sort of sat there...doors locked with the inside completely visible, but nothing resembling a remodeling for the last several weeks... until just recently when the windows got papered. Will be interesting(?) to see what happens here.

TBideon · « **Reply #516 on:** September 12, 2012, 11:29:31 AM »

I had a lot of fun in Barfly over the years. It's a shame it's closed.

Hootenany · « **Reply #517 on:** September 13, 2012, 01:18:33 AM »

^^I totally agree about El Guero. It's become a pretty solid burrito joint. I've been impressed with their willingness to make quick changes based on customer feedback. Does anyone know what their lunch crowd is like? I only go there in the evenings and it's never busy so I'm hoping they make up for it during lunch.

Klingaling87 · « **Reply #518 on:** September 13, 2012, 01:22:33 AM »

Quote from: Hootenany on September 13, 2012, 01:18:33 AM

^^I totally agree about El Guero. It's become a pretty solid burrito joint. I've been impressed with their willingness to make quick changes based on customer feedback. Does anyone know what their lunch crowd is like? I only go there in the evenings and it's never busy so I'm hoping they make up for it during lunch.

I go there, too, on the way home from work sometimes and there is never anyone in there. I hope they make it, as I have come to enjoy having good, cheap(er) food a stones throw from my dwelling.

musky · « **Reply #519 on:** September 13, 2012, 04:04:24 AM »

Quote from: Clueless,Ohio on September 12, 2012, 10:58:41 AM

Some notes from the WHD:

El Guero on W. 9th has become the good burritto place that I had hoped for, imo. Im satisfied with the changes they've mae since first opening and I will continue go there even when CHipotle sets up downtown. I will go to both because the non-pharmed food at CHipotle always pulls me back. Hopefully, EG will be around for a while... and they will... as long as they get the support to remain open.

What do you mean by "non-pharmed?" I can use my context clues, but I do not want to assume.

Clueless,Ohio · « **Reply #520 on:** September 13, 2012, 10:39:13 AM »

In a word: organic.

And all the different things that can add up to certifying meat, dairy, grains and vegetables as organic: grass-fed, free-range, no pesticides, no antibiotics, no growth hormones, no GMOs or cloning, no synthetics, etc.

Chipotle used to have a billboard (i personally havent seen it around the Cleve area for a while), it said "Chicken from farms, not big Pharm".

Kind of sums it up.
Not everything there is organic-friendly, but there is definitely a lot for a fast-casual concept.
I try to buy and eat as much organic as possible.

Back to EG...
El Guero can be sparsely populated at times. I think they turned a lot of people off their first week or so, but people really should give 'em another look.
I dont know what it's like at lunch since Im in UC mostly. I would think it has a decent lunch crowd. ANd, as far as I know, their late night hours (open til 3:30 AM on Fri and Sat nights) have not varied since opening last winter. The after-bar crowd must go? I dont know since I dont do WHD late night, anymore.
One more thing, it's too bad that more people don't go after their work day, or win the evening when they're back home in their WHD apartment. The sidewalk patio is probably the nicest in town right now, imo.

willyboy · « **Reply #521 on:** September 13, 2012, 02:05:09 PM »

I know somebody that says great things about the burger place on w 9th (especially what they will do for vegetarians), but he says it is rarely crowded when he has been there. Anybody been?

rtm · « **Reply #522 on:** September 13, 2012, 02:39:55 PM »

Quote from: willyboy on September 13, 2012, 02:05:09 PM

I know somebody that says great things about the burger place on w 9th (especially what they will do for vegetarians), but he says it is rarely crowded when he has been there. Anybody been?

I was in there about a month ago, but I didn't have a burger. I liked the place a lot, but it was completely empty. This was a weekday at about 4 pm.

jjames0408 · « **Reply #523 on:** September 13, 2012, 02:55:56 PM »

I've been to Brgr 9 many times. It depends on when you go. Wednesday's are wildly popular (half price burgers). Their burgers are pretty darn good...if you've been to Heck's you know what they taste like.

X · « **Reply #524 on:** September 13, 2012, 03:00:56 PM »

OK, folks. This is a thread for development, not restaurant talk.

Back on topic, please.

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