Topic: Darkness Falls on Brick City

[Nexis4Jersey]

Newark,New Jersey

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Chilly Fanning at Newark Penn Station

~Corey

[ColDayMan]

Very cool!

[Living in Gin]

Nice pics and video... Lately I've had quite an itch to get back to the NYC area.

Despite all the time I've spent in/around NYC, I've never ridden the Newark Subway. At first glance I thought the photo at the top of the page was an IND subway station in New York.

[Nexis4Jersey]

Nice pics and video... Lately I've had quite an itch to get back to the NYC area.

Despite all the time I've spent in/around NYC, I've never ridden the Newark Subway. At first glance I thought the photo at the top of the page was an IND subway station in New York.

Come back during the Cherry Blossom festival in April then you can ride the full line up to the Park.    The Downtown Part used to be an old canal , they converted it to the Subway back in the 30s , it has un-used spurs that will most likely become future Subway routes to Maplewood , Paterson and Elizabeth....

[Living in Gin]

There's a possibility I'll be spending my last co-op in NYC this summer, and I've been giving some consideration to moving back to NYC once I'm done with grad school here in Cincinnati.

[urbanforever]

So Newark is nick-named the brickcity?

[Nexis4Jersey]

So Newark is nick-named the brickcity?

Some say it was due to the numerous brick housing that sprang up in the 70s and 80s and others say it was during the drug crisis back in the 80s...

[KJP]

Brick = as in the physical shape of crack bricks.

Thanks for the pics.

[mrnyc]

nice nightshots of the cleveland of nj!

[natininja]

nice nightshots of the cleveland of nj!

Does that make JC the Cincinnati of NJ? What's the Columbus, Metropark?

[Jeffery]

Newark always struck me as the forotten city.  Looking at these pix youd think '
"This place is pretty big"...but it's so overshadowed by NYC.  I recall reading somewhere that Newark is about the size of Louisville (or used to be).

[Nexis4Jersey]

nice nightshots of the cleveland of nj!

Does that make JC the Cincinnati of NJ? What's the Columbus, Metropark?

Jersey City is on par with Columbus....in terms of growth and Urban Renewal ....    Newark is on par with Cleveland and Cincinnati is on par with New Brunswick...

[natininja]

^ I'm familiar with all of those cities, and that's not accurate. JC is ahead of all the Ohio cities (at least in terms of urban renewal), and all the Ohio cities are ahead of Newark and NB. Plus, NB has only one corporation of note plus a university, and only 55k residents. The scale is too far off for reasonable comparison.

Since JC actually has a respectable stock of historic buildings, I made the Cincy comparison. Parts of Cincinnati look like Hoboken or JC, which isn't true of any of the other Ohio cities. Over-the-Rhine's redevelopment is much more comparable to what's going on in JC than the parking structures + student housing going up in NB. Though that's sort of what's going on in the university area in Cincy, it's second-fiddle to what's playing out downtown. I guess the Banks area is sort of like that, but it's a stretch because it include the stadiums and the riverfront park, which make it positively world-class compared to some fairly low-quality TOD in NB, and more on par with the waterfront stuff in JC (plus pro sports, minus some architectural quality). Cincy also just got a new big office tower, which only JC has done lately. Though I guess Newark will have the Panasonic and Prudential buildings in a year or two.

Population is a different game, as Columbus is growing insanely more quickly than any of the other 5 (well, maybe not NB, percentage-wise, but NB is a few orders of magnitude smaller than Cbus (like over 14 times smaller)). Then JC, NB, and Newark are all actually growing, while Cincy and Cleveland are shrinking. I wonder how much Sandy might have set back growth in JC; I was there a few weeks after, and lots of ground-floor apartments were empty.

Do you know if the Panasonic building is getting any ground-floor retail? I wouldn't doubt if it doesn't, considering the completely lack of it in any nearby buildings, but it would be a total missed opportunity. The lack of a residential component is also a missed opportunity, not that there isn't enough vacant space that could be housing in the CBD, but this would be different due to the proximity to Penn Station (and the Ironbound). My bet is high-end condos would go like hotcakes in that location. All the Ohio cities have people moving into their CBDs like crazy. Newark, with its brand new light rail line and two train stations with direct links to Manhattan somehow hasn't caught the same momentum. Residential in the Panasonic building may have helped spark that. Maybe when Prudential pulls out of the Gateway Complex there will be a residential conversion...doubt it, but a man can dream.