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The return of the corner store
« on: March 19, 2012, 05:43:17 AM »
Great article in the Atlanta newspaper today about the return of the small, urban grocery concept in that city.
http://www.ajc.com/health/the-return-of-the-1387812.html

What and where in Ohio is like this concept? Why hasn't this concept taken off in Ohio's urban centers as it maybe has elsewhere?



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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2012, 06:05:44 AM »
-^ Cincinnati sort of has one with the Riddle Road Market off of Marshall next to campus though its not as upscale.

Chicago really has embraced this concept, there are 3 of these in my neighborhood and when I was walking through the S. Loop which IMO is finally starting to form a cohesive neighborhood I found 3 or 4 of them just in the area I walked.  They come in handy on winter days for me because the grocery is far to walk to and if I need something quick that isn't a basic staple I can go there.   I was kind of hoping Mayberry Foodstuffs would be this kind of concept but the store was too small to match the service these places provide.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2012, 06:09:54 AM »
I would say Constantino's in Cleveland fits this bill.

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2012, 07:34:56 AM »
In many of Cleveland's urban centers, where foot traffic is constant, the corner store is still alive and well.  Collinwood still has some which are plopped down in the middle of a residential street, for instance.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2012, 08:15:10 AM »
While I haven't been to Collinwood in awhile, I'm not sure the stores I've seen there are what the article discusses. They're talking about more upscale type stores in the article - "scaled down versions of  a Whole Foods Market with the personality of a corner store..."  e.g. not Linda's Superette or a 7-11 or what have you.

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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2012, 08:20:17 AM »
^Yeah, that's what I got from it as well.  Every city has vibrant corner stores.  The question is can it evolve into something more upscale/specialized from a Ray's Market or a Halal Food Mart.  I think it can, if given the right area.  Neighborhoods such as the Short North, German Village, Grandview, Over-the-Rhine, Mt. Adams, Hyde Park, Ohio City, Edgewater, Tremont, Oregon District, Highland Square, etc can sustain these type of businesses.  Areas like Collingwood, Avondale, or Franklinton I would have doubts.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2012, 08:26:43 AM »
Ah... my bad for not reading the article.  I just read the OP's "return of the..." concept and I thought of the mom and pop corner stores which used to be everywhere.... but have been pushed out of business by the CVS/RiteAid/AMPM's of the world except (for the most part) in the lower income neighborhoods.  At least where I grew up, we never had any "upscale" corner stores like Constantino's.  To the extent the mom and pop shops were considered pricey, it was only because they couldn't compete with the volume based business of the chains.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2012, 08:37:24 AM »
and as to the original question as to why these haven't taken off more, I think that just has to do with the lack of people living in urban centers who will patronize these types of stores. There are some of them, but I think at present more urban dwellers are those likely to take the bus to Aldi's or Save-A-Lot and buy food on the cheap instead of going to a mini Whole Paycheck. Constantino's is largely staying afloat because of their brisk lunch business, I would guess. They have built in business from the people that live right there, but I don't know how much general "urban dweller" business they are getting from places east of W 6th street.

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2012, 08:41:10 AM »
Constantino's runs another "branch" on Clifton.  It's more of a traditional corner store, but includes an expanded beer selection, prepared foods, etc.

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2012, 09:07:14 AM »
those stores are all in commercial strips - 1 is across from an apartment building.
Where I live in Cincinnati, there are lots of corner store buildings in residential areas but they cannot be used for stores because of blanket zoning.

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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2012, 09:56:00 AM »
What and where in Ohio is like this concept? Why hasn't this concept taken off in Ohio's urban centers as it maybe has elsewhere?

The trend is the opposite. Ohio used to have corner stores in every neighborhood, but they are disappearing.

I think that just has to do with the lack of people living in urban centers who will patronize these types of stores.

That's exactly what it is. Christopher Alexander in his book "A pattern language" says that the minimum density to support a grocery store is about 1000 people living within walking distance. Where in Ohio can you find that kind of density? Not very many places.

Today, it's all about parking. Now, a grocery store needs to have 1000 people living within driving distance, and it also needs enough parking spaces to store those cars. This is of course exclusive of some of the old neighborhoods that somehow survived the automobile era, and a few new urban neighborhoods. Today's corner grocery stores are at the corner of the interstate and the state highway.

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2012, 10:05:31 AM »
So what is Atlanta doing differently to allow these businesses to have success there? ATL is a very car oriented city and I don't necessarily know that these areas do have 1k people within walking distance except in Midtown...maybe.

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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2012, 01:01:16 PM »
So what is Atlanta doing differently to allow these businesses to have success there? ATL is a very car oriented city and I don't necessarily know that these areas do have 1k people within walking distance except in Midtown...maybe.

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2012, 07:04:48 PM »
Great article in the Atlanta newspaper today about the return of the small, urban grocery concept in that city.
http://www.ajc.com/health/the-return-of-the-1387812.html

What and where in Ohio is like this concept? Why hasn't this concept taken off in Ohio's urban centers as it maybe has elsewhere?


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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2012, 07:07:18 AM »
It's a lot easier to do an organic or upscale corner store, and a lot early-organic-movement community co-ops are still around after 30 or 40 years -- I know of a couple here in Columbus. The challenge is to get local food into corner and convenience stores in neighborhoods that have few options and little money. The deck is stacked against them. The national supply chain is geared toward big stores. I know of a Convenient Food Mart in Cleveland, on Clark, where the owner wanted to keep fresh produce in the store, but the distributors wouldn't bother with her. So she picked up cartons from the produce terminal -- but that was more than she needed. So she stopped at a supermarket on her way to work and bought retail for resale -- and discovered that it's cheaper to buy retail at a supermarket than to buy wholesale and pick it up yourself at the terminal.

There are a lot of efforts to promote local food in Ohio, but a critical factor is to develop a local-food "infrastructure" -- a processing and distribution model that is efficient enough to hold down costs and expansive enough to serve the needs of big farms and small, and big stores and small. Cleveland has a lot of activity in putting this kind of stuff together, and so does Columbus:  http://www.morpc.org/pdf/MORPC_LocalFoodBrochure_ExecutiveSummary.pdf
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2012, 01:32:10 PM »
It's a lot easier to do an organic or upscale corner store, and a lot early-organic-movement community co-ops are still around after 30 or 40 years -- I know of a couple here in Columbus. The challenge is to get local food into corner and convenience stores in neighborhoods that have few options and little money. The deck is stacked against them. The national supply chain is geared toward big stores. I know of a Convenient Food Mart in Cleveland, on Clark, where the owner wanted to keep fresh produce in the store, but the distributors wouldn't bother with her. So she picked up cartons from the produce terminal -- but that was more than she needed. So she stopped at a supermarket on her way to work and bought retail for resale -- and discovered that it's cheaper to buy retail at a supermarket than to buy wholesale and pick it up yourself at the terminal.

There are a lot of efforts to promote local food in Ohio, but a critical factor is to develop a local-food "infrastructure" -- a processing and distribution model that is efficient enough to hold down costs and expansive enough to serve the needs of big farms and small, and big stores and small. Cleveland has a lot of activity in putting this kind of stuff together, and so does Columbus:  http://www.morpc.org/pdf/MORPC_LocalFoodBrochure_ExecutiveSummary.pdf



The big stores negotiate some pretty serious markdowns.   Plus, prices are going to be higher in "high crime" areas because, as you said, the distributors won't deliver.   They'd have to put two guys on the truck and it wouldn't be a popular run.  Throw in the costs of "shrinkage" and....

The closest I ever came to calling in to a radio show (except for my one friend in Indiana's as a prank lol) was Trivvosanno in about 2000.  He had George Forbes on, and Forbes was whining about the prices corner stores charged in inner city Cleveland.  A wealthy man with tons of connections, if he really believed it was "gouging" he could have put together a group of investors to buy them out, cut the prices, and still make money.   
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 01:55:03 AM »
I never said anything about distributors not delivering in high-crime areas. I said they don't deliver to small and independent stores. And I don't know that high prices in some stores has anything to do with crime levels -- I think it has more to do with a captive clientele without access to cars.
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2012, 01:59:27 AM »
I think it has more to do with lower volume and lower buying power on the store's end.  Smaller stores are by definition less efficient, hence WalMart.  Now if some system were to come along giving corner stores the same prices WalMart gets...

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2012, 02:29:54 AM »
For the record, that article lists 4 stores in Atlanta, so I don't think we can really conclude that it's a significant "trend" taking off there, but not in Ohio.  I can only speak for Cleveland, but if you count the two Constantinos in the city (with a third in Lakewood), plus the Marray Hill Market in Little Italy, I'm not sure you couldn't write the same article here.

Maybe I under-estimate the willingness of Clevelanders to drive for anything, but I'm kind of surprised/disappointed a market like this hasn't popped up on Professor St. in Tremont.
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2012, 02:30:55 AM »
There are 2 Constantino's in the city? Where is the other? I knew about the Lakewood location.

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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2012, 02:35:36 AM »
^Uptown.  Any day now, anyway.
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2012, 02:36:41 AM »
Thanks. Forgive my ignorance - where is "uptown," generally? Is that sort of the Playhouse Square area?

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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2012, 02:43:22 AM »
Thanks. Forgive my ignorance - where is "uptown," generally? Is that sort of the Playhouse Square area?

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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2012, 02:44:49 AM »
^^The big development that is completely transforming University Circle, with lots of new restaurants and expensive apartments, first phase opening as we speak....  I think you're just having a project name failure right now
http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,11359.930.html

Thanks. Forgive my ignorance - where is "uptown," generally? Is that sort of the Playhouse Square area?


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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2012, 02:51:40 AM »
Sorry! I am always learning. In fact, I am certain I asked what "uptown" was in another thread where it was mentioned like a year ago, and it just did not stick. That is just not what anyone would logically consider "uptown" to my thinking. When did we stop calling it the University Circle area and start calling it "uptown?" It just doesn't jive to me. "Up" from where?

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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2012, 02:52:27 AM »
Thanks. Forgive my ignorance - where is "uptown," generally? Is that sort of the Playhouse Square area?

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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2012, 02:58:19 AM »
Sorry! I am always learning. In fact, I am certain I asked what "uptown" was in another thread where it was mentioned like a year ago, and it just did not stick. That is just not what anyone would logically consider "uptown" to my thinking. When did we stop calling it the University Circle area and start calling it "uptown?" It just doesn't jive to me. "Up" from where?

Downtown is "lower Euclid" and this is "upper Euclid."  It's definitely a contrived name, but has been the working name for this development (and sub-neighborhood) for a few years now and seems to be sticking.
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2012, 03:02:16 AM »
I have never seen it referred to as "uptown," nor seen the phrases "lower Euclid" or "upper Euclid" anywhere else on the internet besides our site. Where is it sticking? In city development/architecture circles? Those I obviously do not frequent, so I could see if that's where it's catching on, but it's definitely not in the public perception that I am aware of. I mean, I wouldn't know where "Battery Park" was if not for the big tower that spells it out for you.

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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2012, 03:11:58 AM »
FYI, only the stretch of Euclid east of Mayfielf is "Uptown," not all of University Circle.  So, for example, MOCA is moving, and it describes its new location at "Uptown": http://mocacleveland.org/newbuilding.php

Anyway, back to corner stores...
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2012, 03:37:59 AM »
Uptown is a generic term that almost always refers to a city's secondary CBD.  Secondary CBD's are almost always uphill from the primary CBD, which is almost always near a waterway.  So the term really should include all of University Circle (which itself is a whopper of a term, spoken or typed) rather than just one development.  I mean, if a development on W6th called itself "Downtown," it's not like we'd stop calling downtown downtown.

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« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2012, 03:40:51 AM »
For the record, that article lists 4 stores in Atlanta, so I don't think we can really conclude that it's a significant "trend" taking off there, but not in Ohio.  I can only speak for Cleveland, but if you count the two Constantinos in the city (with a third in Lakewood), plus the Marray Hill Market in Little Italy, I'm not sure you couldn't write the same article here.

Maybe I under-estimate the willingness of Clevelanders to drive for anything, but I'm kind of surprised/disappointed a market like this hasn't popped up on Professor St. in Tremont.

Where is the location in Lakewood?  Do you mean the one on Clifton?  That's in Cleveland.
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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2012, 04:58:03 AM »
^My bad, so all three are in Cleveland.  So apparently Cleveland is officially as deep in this "trend" as Atlanta.
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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2012, 05:28:05 AM »
oy oy oy where is the 3rd location? W 9th, Clifton, and where else?

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« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2012, 06:22:11 AM »
^Still in Uptown :)  Or will be any day now (literally) when it opens its doors: http://www.constantinosmarket.com/
Technically I guess the one on Clifton is still a Convenient Food Mart.
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« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2012, 06:46:40 AM »
Ah, ok.

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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2012, 07:31:31 AM »
The one on Clifton is no longer a Convenient I believe.

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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2012, 09:14:04 AM »
^Yeah, the interwebs gave me conflicting info.  FWIW, the official Constantinos website doesn't show the Clifton location (http://www.constantinosmarket.com/) but some phone directories did seem to list it as such.

I'm really keen to check out the Marray Hill Market one of these days/years.  That place sounds great.  I hope it's doing well.
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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2012, 09:54:47 AM »
On the topic of "Uptown" -

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University Circle Inc. president Chris Ronayne says that the term “Uptown” for University Circle and its surrounding neighborhoods is not new, even if it’s no longer widely used, and no, they’re not re-naming University Circle

“The actual nomenclature of Uptown historically is not inaccurate as it relates to the area around East 105th,” he says. “We’ve used it from time to time — I wouldn’t say interchangeably — to reflect back at an era when University Circle and the surrounding neighborhoods were teeming with jazz clubs, vaudevillian theater and hot-spot restaurants. This place historically in the vernacular of locals was Uptown, which was larger than University Circle — Little Italy, Glenville, Fairfax, Hough.”


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« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2012, 08:56:09 AM »
The trend is the opposite. Ohio used to have corner stores in every neighborhood, but they are disappearing.

In Belmont (SE Dayton neighborhood) - up through the early 1970s - there were two corner markets located essentially in converted houses, in the residential area along Revere Avenue, within a couple of blocks of each other.

I never figured out how these stores survived. The "Bellaire Carryout" only sold snacks, a few dairy items and packaged deli items like lunch meats, cigarettes and pop. The Nordale Meat Market was a larger scale operation but it, too relied mainly on walk in traffic.

I am sure that within a few blocks there were many more such small carryouts and groceries located around Belmont and grandfathered in zoning wise. There are still a few holdouts in east Dayton, like the market on Huffman Avenue.

In the 1960s a blue collar middle class neighborhood could support several such stores. I think economics, not only of distribution, but also real estate, have made this impossible. Back then "everything" was relatively cheaper and owners of stores seemed to be able to do alright on smaller scale profits. A corner market by definition today is going to be upscale and niche in order to turn a profit.

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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2012, 04:58:38 PM »
BTW, is the name "Uptown" more contrived than any place that's been given a name/identity? Maybe we shouldn't call it University Circle anymore since the traffic circle was removed decades ago?!?! And actually, parts of University Circle have been called Uptown for many decades. But anyhoo, here's an article from last year by a woman whose opinions I don't always agree with (Why? Because all I want is to read the news, not someone's opinion of it)......

Tuesday, May 10, 2011
In Defense of the Corner Market
by Angie Schmitt

Much has been made of the food desert phenomenon afflicting the industrial Midwest.

GOOD Magazine, Dateline, NBC and countless others have weighed in on the apparent market failure that causes grocery stores to shun cities like Detroit and Cleveland like a bad case of head lice.

This whole storyline reached a fever pitch earlier this year when it was widely circulated that the city of Detroit — all 140 miles of it — lacked a single grocery store. This was, of course, patently false. A quick Google search shows that there are dozens, even hundreds, of foodsellers populating Detroit’s neighborhoods.

What type of grocer does business in down-and-dirty Detroit? One example is the Honey Bee Market, a family-owned business that has been operating in the city for five decades. It carries a wide selection of Central American ingredients, in addition to plenty of fruits and vegetables. The store was voted “most fun” by Detroit’s Metro Times.

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Re: The return of the corner store
« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2012, 04:07:57 AM »
BTW, is the name "Uptown" more contrived than any place that's been given a name/identity? Maybe we shouldn't call it University Circle anymore since the traffic circle was removed decades ago?!?! And actually, parts of University Circle have been called Uptown for many decades. But anyhoo, here's an article from last year by a woman whose opinions I don't always agree with (Why? Because all I want is to read the news, not someone's opinion of it)......

Tuesday, May 10, 2011
In Defense of the Corner Market
by Angie Schmitt

Much has been made of the food desert phenomenon afflicting the industrial Midwest.

GOOD Magazine, Dateline, NBC and countless others have weighed in on the apparent market failure that causes grocery stores to shun cities like Detroit and Cleveland like a bad case of head lice.

This whole storyline reached a fever pitch earlier this year when it was widely circulated that the city of Detroit — all 140 miles of it — lacked a single grocery store. This was, of course, patently false. A quick Google search shows that there are dozens, even hundreds, of foodsellers populating Detroit’s neighborhoods.

What type of grocer does business in down-and-dirty Detroit? One example is the Honey Bee Market, a family-owned business that has been operating in the city for five decades. It carries a wide selection of Central American ingredients, in addition to plenty of fruits and vegetables. The store was voted “most fun” by Detroit’s Metro Times.

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Pretty good article.   The operators of these stores often become political punching bags for reasons having little to do with actual economics.  This story refutes some of those. 
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Re: The return of the corner store
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2012, 05:51:44 AM »
I thought this thread title to be funny. I've almost always lived in the city near corner stores. In my world, it would never return because it never left.
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Re: The return of the corner store
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2012, 05:53:30 AM »
-^ Cincinnati sort of has one with the Riddle Road Market off of Marshall next to campus though its not as upscale.

Chicago really has embraced this concept, there are 3 of these in my neighborhood and when I was walking through the S. Loop which IMO is finally starting to form a cohesive neighborhood I found 3 or 4 of them just in the area I walked.  They come in handy on winter days for me because the grocery is far to walk to and if I need something quick that isn't a basic staple I can go there.   I was kind of hoping Mayberry Foodstuffs would be this kind of concept but the store was too small to match the service these places provide.

Hey I used to live on Riddle Rd. I went to Riddle Rd. Market all the time! I went there so much I got the T-Shirt. I think there's a picture of me wearing it on the site, lol. That store has a cult following.
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Re: The return of the corner store
« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2012, 01:06:36 PM »
-^ Cincinnati sort of has one with the Riddle Road Market off of Marshall next to campus though its not as upscale.

Chicago really has embraced this concept, there are 3 of these in my neighborhood and when I was walking through the S. Loop which IMO is finally starting to form a cohesive neighborhood I found 3 or 4 of them just in the area I walked.  They come in handy on winter days for me because the grocery is far to walk to and if I need something quick that isn't a basic staple I can go there.   I was kind of hoping Mayberry Foodstuffs would be this kind of concept but the store was too small to match the service these places provide.
That store has a cult following.

lol mostly because of their nonchalant attitude towards checking ID....but that's another story.

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Re: The return of the corner store
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2012, 02:39:27 PM »
-^ Cincinnati sort of has one with the Riddle Road Market off of Marshall next to campus though its not as upscale.

Chicago really has embraced this concept, there are 3 of these in my neighborhood and when I was walking through the S. Loop which IMO is finally starting to form a cohesive neighborhood I found 3 or 4 of them just in the area I walked.  They come in handy on winter days for me because the grocery is far to walk to and if I need something quick that isn't a basic staple I can go there.   I was kind of hoping Mayberry Foodstuffs would be this kind of concept but the store was too small to match the service these places provide.
That store has a cult following.

lol mostly because of their nonchalant attitude towards checking ID....but that's another story.

Definitely hit up Riddle Road Market for beer in high school a couple times lol

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Re: The return of the corner store
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2012, 03:54:57 PM »
Oh, I wish I knew that at the time. I lived there when I was 18. My first apartment.
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Re: The return of the corner store
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2012, 03:43:49 AM »
Farid is my hero....

With less malt liquor and more fresh meat, one inner-city grocer tries to grow a business: Mark Naymik
Published: Saturday, April 07, 2012, 9:00 AM     Updated: Saturday, April 07, 2012, 9:12 AM
  By Mark Naymik, The Plain Dealer

CLEVELAND, Ohio — To measure Farid Naqib's commitment to the East Side Cleveland neighborhood where he runs a small grocery store, you have to take a look at his coolers.

He has a lot of coolers.

And they are not full of beer.

In the world of inner-city bodegas and convenient stores stereotyped by their lottery terminals, dusty food cans, spoiled food and large selection of malt liquor, Naqib's Eagle Fresh Market at East 75th and Kinsman Road is unusual.

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Re: The return of the corner store
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2012, 01:30:23 PM »
I definitely think that Silverglades on 8th & Sycamore and Caffe Barista on 4th & Plum in downtown Cincinnati both fit the bill.
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