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Cleveland: Campus District
« on: November 29, 2011, 10:21:54 AM »
EAST 22ND STREET CORRIDOR / CAMPUS DISTRICT
TRANSPORTATION AND REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
AUGUST 2011 - DRAFT
CLEVELAND, OHIO


http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2011/12022011/2011-08-15CampusDistrictTLCI_FINALl.pdf
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Re: Cleveland: Campus District
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 02:22:21 AM »
That plan is extremely impressive, that's the city I want to live in!

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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 03:19:42 AM »
I LOVE this plan

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Re: Cleveland: Campus District
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 04:48:30 AM »
though i'm not exactly sure what the campus district, and gray's green have to do with eachother, they are about 8 blocks away planned by different entities with different organizations pushing for each one. :)
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Re: Cleveland: Campus District
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 04:57:48 AM »
^actually...is anybody currently "pushing" for Gray's Green?  Best I can tell KJP resurrected this thread after seeing it referenced on website that maybe 4-5 years old.

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Re: Cleveland: Campus District
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 06:01:34 AM »

Maybe it's time to resurrect this thread:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,11901.0.html


DONE. And not because of what I posted above, but because of what I've posted below.......

EAST 22ND STREET CORRIDOR / CAMPUS DISTRICT
TRANSPORTATION AND REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
AUGUST 2011 - DRAFT
CLEVELAND, OHIO


http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2011/12022011/2011-08-15CampusDistrictTLCI_FINALl.pdf


That's a nice document.  CMHA has submitted grants for redeveloping their Old Cedar property but they've been denied the last two times.  They have aggressive plans to start redeveloping this property in 2012 & 2013 since Tri-C & CSU are expanding on either side.  I'm hearing their goal would be more of a mixed income development, similar to Tremont Point, but something that could also provide housing specific to college students, as an option to the dorms.

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Re: Cleveland: Campus District
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 06:31:35 AM »
though i'm not exactly sure what the campus district, and gray's green have to do with eachother, they are about 8 blocks away planned by different entities with different organizations pushing for each one. :)

Eh, close enough. It's the southeast side of downtown. Maybe I should rephrase the title of the thread? Suggestions?
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Re: Cleveland: Campus District
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 06:38:04 AM »
Campus district is accurate.  It's essentially focused on E.22nd corridor between Tri-C & CSU

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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 06:40:09 AM »
I really think this should be a separate thread from greys green. different projects.
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Re: Cleveland: Campus District
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2011, 07:21:31 AM »
I was thinking along the lines of "Cleveland: Quadrangle projects"
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 09:27:31 AM »
The quadrangle is dead, and now known as the campus district. I would just start a thread for the campus district, and separate out the old grays green stuff. it really is a completely separate project.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 11:14:51 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 01:55:04 PM »
Anyone notice the Ken Lanci bus sticker in one of the renderings?  Does that mean he's going to run again?  It's an exciting proposal, though there seem to be an awful lot of parking lots in many of those renderings.
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Re: Cleveland: Campus District
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2011, 01:10:23 PM »
East 22nd Street could yield big development east of downtown Cleveland, new plan says

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A wide, bleak stretch of East 22nd Street has potential as a vital, redeveloped artery that draws on the growth of

Cuyahoga Community College, St. Vincent Charity Medical Center and Cleveland State University, a new plan proposes.

The proposal from Campus District, Inc., calls for $4.2 million in road work and landscaping, aimed at better linking the three big institutions from Woodland Avenue to Euclid Avenue.

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/12/east_22nd_street_could_yield_b.html

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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2011, 01:22:39 PM »
Most crime is away from East 22nd, mainly because there is nothing over there. But the public housing north of Central Avenue is a huge crime magnet. Everything from Simple Assault, Assault with knife, to Rape. Would these get rebuilt? Hopefully a new design would help reduce crime.

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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2011, 04:18:15 PM »
Actually im not sure if it would. I looked at the newer built ones, and the crime issue is still there. The single family homes north of Community College Avenue look to be working very well. Very low crime around that area. But just south at Arbor Park, crime is definitely an issue.

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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2011, 12:54:58 AM »
Good plan. Cover the Innerbelt in this area would do so much for the area.

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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2011, 10:14:36 AM »
For residential, the focus should be on Euclid to the Interbelt.  Only after that has filled up, should the build out head south from there.  At least that's how it would work if I was King
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Re: Cleveland: Campus District
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2012, 08:35:03 AM »
I saw this building under construction today and I had no idea what it was. So I looked it up on the InterWeb....

From the Ground Up: Cuyahoga Community College's
Emerging Technology and Energy Center Takes Shape

by Jason Boltz
Volume 2, Issue 1, Posted 12:02 PM, 01.03.2012

Envisioned to be the center for excellence in emerging technologies and sustainable systems, Cuyahoga Community College's Emerging Technology and Energy Center (or "ETEC" for short) will eventually contain 50,000 square feet of administrative offices, versitile lab high-bay spaces and classrooms for the Workforce and Economic Development Division at Cuyahoga Community College Metro Campus.

Designed by Braun & Steidl Architects, the building is anticipated to achieve a LEED Gold certification and will feature sustainable concepts consistent with the curriculum that will be offered within its walls.  Braun & Steidl not only participated in the site selection process for the project (ultimately recommending the location of the building at the corner of East 30th and Woodland) but was also commissioned to develop the building program, as well as assist in defining the potential curriculum, based on regional needs and emerging technology trends.

SEE CONSTRUCTION PHOTOS AND RENDERINGS AT:
http://campusdistrictobserver.com/read/2012/01/03/from-the-ground-up-cuyahoga-community-colleges-emerging-technology-and

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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2012, 08:56:30 AM »
I saw this building under construction today and I had no idea what it was. So I looked it up on the InterWeb....

From the Ground Up: Cuyahoga Community College's
Emerging Technology and Energy Center Takes Shape

by Jason Boltz
Volume 2, Issue 1, Posted 12:02 PM, 01.03.2012

Envisioned to be the center for excellence in emerging technologies and sustainable systems, Cuyahoga Community College's Emerging Technology and Energy Center (or "ETEC" for short) will eventually contain 50,000 square feet of administrative offices, versitile lab high-bay spaces and classrooms for the Workforce and Economic Development Division at Cuyahoga Community College Metro Campus.

Designed by Braun & Steidl Architects, the building is anticipated to achieve a LEED Gold certification and will feature sustainable concepts consistent with the curriculum that will be offered within its walls.  Braun & Steidl not only participated in the site selection process for the project (ultimately recommending the location of the building at the corner of East 30th and Woodland) but was also commissioned to develop the building program, as well as assist in defining the potential curriculum, based on regional needs and emerging technology trends.

SEE CONSTRUCTION PHOTOS AND RENDERINGS AT:
http://campusdistrictobserver.com/read/2012/01/03/from-the-ground-up-cuyahoga-community-colleges-emerging-technology-and




I had no idea of this project either...can anyone find a total price tag on this thing?
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2012, 09:49:35 AM »

I had no idea of this project either...can anyone find a total price tag on this thing?


It took a lot of looking, but I found it......

http://higherlogicdownload.s3.amazonaws.com/AIA/0d3cf47d-b7ae-4075-a727-c655a7e8a53e/UploadedImages/2011%20YAA%20winners/Jack_Baumann.pdf

Cuyahoga Community College - Emerging Technologies & Energy Center - 2008
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Project Manager / Project Design
The “center of excellence” for emerging technologies and sustainable systems, the
Center will be a 50,000sf, $13.4million, learning / lab facility that will feature a
building program based on regional needs for emerging technology trends. The
building program is based on the demand to train a future workforce for installation
and maintenance of technologies such as solar, wind, and fuel cells. The Center’s
labs and classrooms are set up to grow and expand as new technologies become
available as well as conform to to teaching practices. The project’s goal is for LEED
Gold Certification.
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2012, 10:02:36 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2012, 11:42:11 AM »
CMHA was recently awarded a grant from HUD to do a masterplan for redeveloping their property in this area

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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2012, 05:18:32 AM »
Two recipients of NOACA TLCI planning grants have completed studies recently posted on NOACA's website. One is the East 22nd Street Corridor/Campus District Transportation and Redevelopment Plan proposes transportation improvements in the area between the Cleveland State University and Tri-C Metro campuses that encourage bicycling and walkability, improve land use, and stimulate economic development. The other is Lakewood's Birdtown plan (see the Lakewood thread).

East 22nd Street Corridor / Campus District Transportation and Redevelopment Plan (8.08 MB - August 2011):
http://www.noaca.org/campusdistrict.pdf
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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2013, 11:24:27 PM »
More HUGE news!!

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2013/06132013/index.php

Landmarks Commission
CITY HALL - ROOM 514 - 9:00 AM
AGENDA - June 13, 2013

SECTION 106 REVIEW
Cedar Apartments Extension
Central Avenue, Community College Avenue, East 30th Street
Demolition
Ward 5 Cleveland













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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2013, 11:28:42 PM »
This is great.  Market rate homes, near downtown.

I wonder why they could not demolish both housing projects?

Hopefully they can attract some everyday retail on Central.
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2013, 11:36:18 PM »
This is great.  Market rate homes, near downtown.

I wonder why they could not demolish both housing projects?

Hopefully they can attract some everyday retail on Central.


Yeah, I don't understand why the Old Cedar Estates is being left untouched here. Maybe they've got something else in mind for that site? Or have they rehabbed it recently with federal funds and thus cannot demolish those buildings for X years?
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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2013, 11:40:24 PM »
I'm confused; what is this supposed to be?

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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2013, 11:45:04 PM »
A mixed-income development like Arbor Park nearby, Tremont Ridge or the Heritage View Homes (off Kinsman). And it looks like there's some mixed use in this -- medical and maybe some retail.

EDIT: I knew Heritage Homes was a big project, but I didn't realize it was $100 million -- comparable to Battery Park in scale. It's disappointing to me that I seldom hear/see media coverage about on major projects like Heritage Homes (http://www.bbcdevelopment.org/development/housing/garden-valley-estates/). I hope this Cedar development gets more coverage considering its proximity to downtown, Tri-C, etc. But I doubt it based on how the massive Arbor Park/St. John's Village/Villages of Central (perhaps one of the largest combined residential development in Cleveland history) grew in the early 2000s with virtually no media coverage.
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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2013, 11:55:24 PM »
Oh okay.  These look like a lot of the faux townhouses you see being built in the suburbs/"hip" neighborhoods.

I know this area a little bit.  Not sure what I think about this project, though.

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« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2013, 12:51:57 AM »
^^ Arbor Park is mixed income?

They are of a terrible design and experience some of the worst crime problems in the neighborhood because of it.

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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2013, 12:59:10 AM »

They are of a terrible design and experience some of the worst crime problems in the neighborhood because of it.


Yes, Arbor Park is most definitely mixed income and is a highly rated development. http://newurbanmom.com/neighborhoods/top-ten-new-urban-communities-fall-2008/

I have no problem with its design. Please explain how their design causes crimes. Perhaps you're thinking of another development??

If anything, the crime rate in this area is less than what it was prior to Arbor Park being built. Perhaps you forgot what Longwood Plaza and Woodland Estates were like in the 1970s-80s? It was dubbed Dodge City.
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« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2013, 01:12:39 AM »
^looks like the senior highrise stays. Where do the 1,004 residents less those in the senior highrise go before demolition? are they moved into other CMHA properties or moved out of the system? 

I think this will be a great improvement to the neighborhood. But with the old cedar homes across the street (across Central), the new units may be a tough sell as market rate new construction, no?

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« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2013, 01:20:25 AM »
^^ I would think it is highly rated based on it architecture and appearance, but functionally I view it as a disaster.

I think that the courtyards might have been a bad idea for this area. Greenspace should have been public and highly visible from those passing by on both foot and by car.

Functionally, the single family detached homes seem to be working the best for this neighborhood, even if they aren't of the best design. Atleast they act as part of the cities grid rather than part of an estate with defined entrances.

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« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2013, 01:26:36 AM »
I think this will be a great improvement to the neighborhood. But with the old cedar homes across the street (across Central), the new units may be a tough sell as market rate new construction, no?

Based on crime stats I would prefer to see the old cedar homes across the street replaced first as they have higher crime activity (also have hidden courtyards).

The proposed project area seems to experience the least amount of crime out of the large estates in the area, probably due to its location near the Community College and because its "courtyards," in some sense, are mostly visible from the street and act more as a front yard rather than a private hangout.
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