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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2012, 07:27:35 AM »
My bet is there will be less Cranley supporters and more Qualls supporters then than now. The demographics have been shifting towards Qualls for a while and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

This is the type of positive momentum which Cunningham praising OTR could conceivably thwart.
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2012, 09:27:48 AM »
What people are forgetting here is that the local Democratic party might be looking to avoid a primary showdown between Qualls and Cranley, and so Cranley might be acting as if he's running for mayor, then get some kind of appointment in state government or elsewhere from the party in exhange for not running against Qualls. 

If there is a primary election voters much choose one or the other, unlike council elections, where people can vote for as many candidates as they choose.  So the fact that Cranley finished just behind Qualls in a council race doesn't really matter. 


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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2012, 10:07:33 AM »
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What people are forgetting here is that the local Democratic party might be looking to avoid a primary showdown between Qualls and Cranley, and so Cranley might be acting as if he's running for mayor, then get some kind of appointment in state government or elsewhere from the party in exhange for not running against Qualls. 

If there is a primary election voters much choose one or the other, unlike council elections, where people can vote for as many candidates as they choose.  So the fact that Cranley finished just behind Qualls in a council race doesn't really matter.

There will only be a primary if there are more than 2 running for mayor. Remember we have the open primary system now.

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2012, 10:09:25 AM »
What people are forgetting here is that the local Democratic party might be looking to avoid a primary showdown between Qualls and Cranley, and so Cranley might be acting as if he's running for mayor, then get some kind of appointment in state government or elsewhere from the party in exhange for not running against Qualls. 

If there is a primary election voters much choose one or the other, unlike council elections, where people can vote for as many candidates as they choose.  So the fact that Cranley finished just behind Qualls in a council race doesn't really matter. 



This is more or less what I was putting out there in my post yesterday regarding Cranley.  Whichever path his handlers choose for him, he'll land on his feet in some office he doesn't deserve and won't serve well.  Cincinnati politicians are great at losing locally and winning an even more influential office via graft and voter incompetence.

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2012, 11:13:55 AM »
He would likely run as and Independent or Republican if he really wants to challenge Qualls. She is a lock for being the Democratic and Charterite candidate.
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2012, 11:47:06 AM »
He would likely run as and Independent or Republican if he really wants to challenge Qualls. She is a lock for being the Democratic and Charterite candidate.

Not how it works in our open primary system. All candidates run in the primary, and then the top two vote getters square off in the general. In 2005 Mallory and Pepper, both Dems, ran against each other in the November general election.

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2012, 01:54:32 PM »
The primary should be decided by which candidate can lead a more compelling rendition of Touchdown Bengals. 

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« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2012, 02:03:02 PM »
He would likely run as and Independent or Republican if he really wants to challenge Qualls. She is a lock for being the Democratic and Charterite candidate.

Not how it works in our open primary system. All candidates run in the primary, and then the top two vote getters square off in the general. In 2005 Mallory and Pepper, both Dems, ran against each other in the November general election.

One thing to remember- there would have to be NO major African American candidates on the primary ballot for both Cranley & Qualls to end up as the top vote getters. Pretty slim chance of that.

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2012, 02:28:20 PM »
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One thing to remember- there would have to be NO major African American candidates on the primary ballot for both Cranley & Qualls to end up as the top vote getters. Pretty slim chance of that.

A strong African American candidate in the primary could hurt Qualls more than Cranley.

Since I am already bored of the 2012 election season and ready to start thinking about local politics again, I guess it might be time to start speculating who might populate that ballot.

In no particular order:
Roxanne Qualls
John Cranley
Charlie Winburn
Cecil Thomas

I'm having trouble coming up with other potential strong candidates. I am sure there will be others but I doubt there will be any serious Republican candidate other than Winburn (debatable Republican status aside). Does anyone know of a wildcard candidate in the same vein as a Courtis Fuller? Pepper doesn't live in the city anymore. Steve Driehaus? Is he still in Africa? Would Alicia Reece take another crack at it? Sandra Queen Noble? Jerry Springer?

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2012, 02:45:07 PM »
Still waiting for the Chris Smitherman/Mark Miller of COAST ticket

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2012, 11:51:23 AM »
Cranley sure looked like he was in campaign mode at the city council meeting today.

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« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2012, 12:17:33 PM »
It's basically a certainty he will run.  I've been hearing those rumors for a while now as well. He's getting an EARLY start and the Enquirer seems to be loving all the hullabaloo around it. 

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2012, 03:32:27 PM »
And then there's this guy...

Another candidate weighing a run for Cincinnati mayor

By: Lucy May
Senior Staff Reporter/Associate Editor- Business Courier

Cincinnati Councilmember Charlie Winburn is weighing a run for mayor in 2013.
Winburn told me this morning that he hasnít made up his mind about running. But heís been getting encouragement from supporters throughout the city who want to see him run.
Starting immediately, Winburn said heíll begin gauging his support in five ways: a voter survey, polling, focus groups, a discussion with family and friends and a discussion with his political party. (Winburn is the lone Republican on council right now.)
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2012, 05:40:44 PM »
LOL, I definitely remember him saying he would support Qualls.
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« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2012, 06:33:05 PM »
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2012, 07:18:18 PM »
I'd pay good money to see the debate between Charlie Winburn and Charlie Sheen.
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2012, 09:26:38 AM »
My bet is he likes seeing articles like this a heck of a lot more than he likes the idea of resigning his council seat to run a hopeless campaign

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2012, 09:14:38 AM »
From the City Council Thread:

The Fishwarp reports Cranley is running for mayor.
Is Smitherman? I caught a bit of one of his local access shows the other night & he was in prime form. He mentioned somebody running for office & sang "hell yeah" repeatedly while engaging in increasingly exaggerated gestures that approached dancing.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/14/cranley-makes-it-official-hes-running-for-mayor/
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2012, 09:17:15 AM »
^whoops, thanks, I hadn't seen/forgot this thread.
So, is Cranley free from his conflicts of interest now?
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2012, 09:17:41 AM »
So far announced candidates are:
Roxanne Qualls (C)
John Cranley (D)

Speculated candidates:
P.G. Sittenfield (D)
Greg Hartmann (R)
Chris Smitherman (I)
Charlie Winburn (R)

I included them but I doubt the last 2 names on this list will run. However; stranger things have happened.
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2012, 09:20:26 AM »
^whoops, thanks, I hadn't seen/forgot this thread.
So, is Cranley free from his conflicts of interest now?

It'd be interesting to find out if he still has a stake in the Incline District project. I believe the project is finished but am not sure.
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« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2012, 11:28:22 AM »
So far announced candidates are:
Roxanne Qualls (C)
John Cranley (D)

Speculated candidates:
P.G. Sittenfield (D)
Greg Hartmann (R)
Chris Smitherman (I)
Charlie Winburn (R)

I included them but I doubt the last 2 names on this list will run. However; stranger things have happened.

The primary will be interesting for sure.  Brad Wenstrup had a surprisingly strong showing in 2009, and I wouldn't be surprised to see anyone with an R next to their name take the most votes in the Primary, with the D and C splitting the liberal vote.

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2012, 03:08:48 PM »
The progressives in this city need to get P.G. out of politics. He is poison. Send him to SLC to run an Olympic committee.
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2012, 03:22:14 PM »
Poison? That seems a bit extreme. My guess is he is floating his name this time around so that he can make a credible run for another higher office (or mayor) in a few years.

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #59 on: November 14, 2012, 05:01:00 PM »
It's been clear from day one that PG only sees City Council as a stepping stone for higher office, and likely the mayorship as well. Look for him to ditch Cincinnati and run for county or statewide office the minute it becomes convenient for him.
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2012, 05:31:18 PM »
It's been clear from day one that PG only sees City Council as a stepping stone for higher office, and likely the mayorship as well. Look for him to ditch Cincinnati and run for county or statewide office the minute it becomes convenient for him.

Yeah, I really don't think he is a long term threat to Cincy.  I think his financial backers are prepping him for the state or national level - he comes from a very wealthy family with very wealthy friends, and they were his biggest campaign donors. 
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2012, 08:46:27 AM »
It's been clear from day one that PG only sees City Council as a stepping stone for higher office, and likely the mayorship as well. Look for him to ditch Cincinnati and run for county or statewide office the minute it becomes convenient for him.

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2012, 11:41:51 AM »
Dunno when it will be posted but John Cranley was on Newsmakers 2nd half 11/18

http://www.local12.com/content/newsmakers/default.aspx

Pretty much just offered populist emotional drivel
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2012, 08:38:02 AM »
Jim Berns (L) considering run for Cincinnati mayor
Berns said: "After attending today's public hearing on how to spend the loot extorted from the taxpayers via the casino, I am certain no one on council has a clue about  why Cincinnati and our nation are in such a mess."

http://downtown-mtauburn.fox19.com/news/politics/100959-jim-berns-considering-run-cincinnati-mayor
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2012, 05:33:39 PM »

The last time Cranley & Qualls were on a ballot together:

City Council 2007
Roxanne Qualls (C):  33,775
John Cranley (D):      33,772

In 2005, Cranley was the top vote getter.

Since 2007 Qualls has done a whole bunch of great things that will be attacked (3CDC, downtown, streetcar).

3CDC and downtown will score her a lot of points from residents of OTR and downtown, which are the fastest-growing neighborhoods.

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2012, 12:38:14 AM »
True, but Downtown and OTR are 17k. Westwood alone is 30k. I suppose we can pick that up more in the mayors race thread. :)

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2012, 02:14:27 AM »
City Council 2007
Roxanne Qualls (C):  33,775
John Cranley (D):      33,772


How many people voted for both Qualls and Cranley?  In the mayoral race, people must vote for one or the other.  And if there is a primary, and Qualls leads by 55/45 or more, I don't think anyone's going to donate big money to Cranley's campaign. 

Also, if Cranley is elected, I don't think he's going to stop the streetcar project or even stop its expansion.  After all he voted for it back in 2008, then started opposing it as long as there was a thin council majority for it.

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2012, 08:59:58 AM »
More on Berns from the News Record
http://www.newsrecord.org/news/city/article_6d6516d8-3cc8-11e2-828a-001a4bcf6878.html
He wants to release certain city functions to the private sector where, he said, competitive markets will help those services thrive."
but, really, who competes with many of the city services?
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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2012, 12:50:35 PM »
Indeed, you can't really compare "pick 9" City Council results vs. one-on-one election results without being very, very good at statistical analysis.

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Re: Mayor John Cranley
« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2012, 01:03:04 PM »
I think Cranley will be a formidable opponent.  He will have an endorsement from The Enquirer, nonstop support from 700wlw/55krc, The NAACP, and Tea Party Groups. 

He will run solely on the streetcar argument which has become a victim to so many lies, mistruths, and hostility.

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