Topic: Cleveland-random venting

[DanB]

St Pat's?

[KJP]

*I went to MC on Detroit for Mass one sunday and lo, it was the monthly Italian mass. I could only smile to myself as I sat there not understanding a word.

That's cool. I'd like to do that sometime.

[musky]

^What? Not understand a word?

[shs96]

As for this whole eastside v. westside thing, to me anything south of 480 is neither east nor west. I don't think of Indy, Parma, Maple Hts as east or west. They're just south of 480.
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I agree.  As a kid, I thought "I'm an eastsider".  As I got older and started expanding more outside of my home town and realized what people associated with "eastsider" and "westsider" I realized I am not really either.

East Side essentially amounts to the "Heights" - Cleveland,  University, Shaker, Richmond,  Garfield and I guess Warrensville plus Euclid, Lyndhurst, and maybe Beachwood.

West Side - Lakewood, Rocky River, Westlake, Bay Village, Fairview, Avon and Avon Lake.

Anyone else just lives in a suburb of Cleveland (or Cleveland itself).

[StrapHanger]

I dunno, cornhole (I hate that name!!) is pretty popular in Greater Cleveland (especially the way west side -- like Lorain County where corn is the official county "flower").

OK, WTF is "cornhole"?  Pretty sure this game is NOT pretty popular in the eastern 'burbs (at least within Cuy County).

David, the stereotype in Cleveland is that blacks are on the city's east side and whites are on the west side. That's no longer as true, though. Today, you've got some Asians but still mostly blacks (of all kinds, including Jamaican) on the east side. But there is a Vietnamese neighborhood on the near-west side. Arabs and Latinos concentrated on the west side of Cleveland. The suburbs are more Jewish (including many new Russians and Ukranians) and Italians on the east side. But it's hard to say that one ethnic group is here and not there because each group is pretty much all over the place.

There's definitely been some dispersion, especially in city limits, but there are still some significant East Side/West Side demographic differences which you allude to: the West Side burbs are overwhelmingly white and Christian, which is conspicuously not the case in several East Side suburbs.  Not a knock on the west side, but definitely a difference.

[MayDay]

"OK, WTF is "cornhole"?  Pretty sure this game is NOT pretty popular in the eastern 'burbs (at least within Cuy County)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornhole - trust me, click on the "corntoss" link.

Given the connotation of the term "cornhole" (as a verb), imagine my surprise when I learned that it's quite the popular backyard game (a la horseshoes).

[StrapHanger]

^Thanks (for the link and the advice).  Funny, now that I know what it is, I actually saw some being played at Walk and Roll a few weeks ago.  I'm gonna call it "corntoss" though.

[8ShadesofGray]

OK, WTF is "cornhole"?  Pretty sure this game is NOT pretty popular in the eastern 'burbs (at least within Cuy County).

A delightful game that allegedly originated in Cincy some 40 years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corntoss. Catch an example of East Side cornhole (though not Cuyahoga County, I'm afraid) this Saturday at the 1st Annual Cuyahoga Falls Cornhole Tournament  :

1st Annual Cuyahoga Falls Cornhole Tournament
Sept 22nd 1PM
2164 Front St.
Cuyahoga Falls, Oh 44221
$20 per team by Sept 15th
$500 1st Place, $300 2nd, $200 3rd,
330-928-6446 or popohio.com

[StrapHanger]

OK, I know I shouldn't care, but my suggestion for anyone who wants the rest of the country to think of Ohio as something other than backwards farmers, is to call this game something other than "cornhole."  I know, I know, I shouldn't care.

[shs96]

Shocking that there are so many of you that haven't heard of cornhole.  Doesn't anyone tailgate at football games?  There's even a cornhole bar video game (like Siliver Strike bowling or Golden Tee...its called "bags").

http://www.playcornhole.org/

As far as the name goes, I mean, get over it.  It's like not wanting to call "balls" in baseball because it has too much of a sexual overtone so you'd rather call it "not a strike".  The bags are full of corn and you throw it in a hole.

[MorningTheft]

As for this whole eastside v. westside thing, to me anything south of 480 is neither east nor west. I don't think of Indy, Parma, Maple Hts as east or west. They're just south of 480.
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I agree.  As a kid, I thought "I'm an eastsider".  As I got older and started expanding more outside of my home town and realized what people associated with "eastsider" and "westsider" I realized I am not really either.

East Side essentially amounts to the "Heights" - Cleveland,  University, Shaker, Richmond,  Garfield and I guess Warrensville plus Euclid, Lyndhurst, and maybe Beachwood.

West Side - Lakewood, Rocky River, Westlake, Bay Village, Fairview, Avon and Avon Lake.

Anyone else just lives in a suburb of Cleveland (or Cleveland itself).

Exactly how I feel, though the neighborhoods of Cleveland count in the East v West side.

[StrapHanger]

Shocking that there are so many of you that haven't heard of cornhole.  Doesn't anyone tailgate at football games?  There's even a cornhole bar video game (like Siliver Strike bowling or Golden Tee...its called "bags").

http://www.playcornhole.org/

As far as the name goes, I mean, get over it.  It's like not wanting to call "balls" in baseball because it has too much of a sexual overtone so you'd rather call it "not a strike".  The bags are full of corn and you throw it in a hole.

Yeah, I know you're right- i don't really have a choice other than to get over it.  But imagine if you one day learned that your home community loved a game called "blow j*b" and called it that with a straight face.  That's a slightly more apt anology I think (i.e., I didn't think "cornhole" was double entendre...I really just thought it meant one thing).  I dunno, I still question just how widespread this game is, at least in my part of Cleveland suburbia.

[X]

I'd never seen it till this year.

[lewarctj]

Maybe they belong to Our Lady of Mt. Carmel on 67th and Detroit.

No, the church they go to is either on W. 44th or W.41. St. Procop ring a bell?

*I went to MC on Detroit for Mass one sunday and lo, it was the monthly Italian mass. I could only smile to myself as I sat there not understanding a word.

it would be St. Procop on the corner of W. 41st and Newark - about 2 blocks directly west of St. Rocco's.  I actually attend St. Procops - its a Czech/Slovak (bohemian) church.  My parents grew up in that area as well.  East of St. Procop was the italian neighborhood with the west side of 41st being the bohemian area.  Now...it's all the latino neighborhood.

The old churches in Cleveland are incredibly beautiful.  It's a shame to see the dwindling population and likely shuttering of many of them.

[jonmoxon]

^Yes, sadly, you are probably right. St. Colman, St. Stephen, St. Pat (OC) are in danger of being "downsized". What a loss, not just to the diocese, but whay happens to these irreplaceable bldgs? I have made it a point to make it to Mass at some of these older urban parishes before they are lost forever.

[TBideon]

This is one of Cleveland's most iconic places, yet it seems like it's been relegated to a ghost mall.  I'm aware there are businesses there and a nice hotel attached, but the Arcade always seems completely empty when I walk inside.  There really should be a massive birthday paid by the business community or city (just get it done!) so that people can be reintroduced to the Arcade and start appreciating it and its history.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac_clevela/ac_clevela_ts3665#mwpphu-container

The Old Arcade: a look at a national treasure, 120 years young

" We should all look as good if (and when) we turn 120 years old, even if we don't have formal birthday parties anymore.

The Old Arcade—one of the country's first shopping malls and the first of Northeast Ohio's skyscrapers—celebrated its 120th birthday this year.

Now occupied by the Hyatt Regency Cleveland Hotel, the Old Arcade resides between Euclid and Superior Avenues downtown and was built in 1890 as one of the first indoor shopping malls in the United States."

[MuRrAy HiLL]

So May 1890 was the Arcade 120th birthday...  It is ashame nothing was acknowledged or celebrated.  It is still one of the gems I take out-of-towners to see (calmly pass through it like it's no big deal on the way to E.4th).

Thanks for the link.

 

[Clevelander17]

I agree.  As a kid, I thought "I'm an eastsider".  As I got older and started expanding more outside of my home town and realized what people associated with "eastsider" and "westsider" I realized I am not really either.

East Side essentially amounts to the "Heights" - Cleveland,  University, Shaker, Richmond,  Garfield and I guess Warrensville plus Euclid, Lyndhurst, and maybe Beachwood.

That's an odd definition of the "Heights."  Richmond Heights, along with Lyndhurst (as well as the entire Mayield School District) really falls into the "Hillcrest" area.  South Euclid (also considered part of "Hillcrest") and Beachwood are kind of in between sometimes considered part of the "Heights," and Garfield Heights does not even really belong in the conversation.  Neither would Warrensville area, Orange area, or East Cleveland.

[Clevelander17]

Ha, I guess I should look more closely at dates next time. Oops!