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« on: November 05, 2009, 05:27:52 PM » |
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So, I was looking at a post by Randy over at www.urbancincy.com where someone mentioned Mark Twain in the comments. Randy responded with, "There is a strict no Mark Twain reference policy here at UrbanCincy." It got me thinking about how topics that are taboo at the dinner table change from place to place. So, I invite you to share people, topics, and events that are unique to your area. NOTE: PLEASE TRY TO AVOID POLITICS. UNLESS A POLITICIAN DID SOMETHING OFFENSIVE THAT WAS NOT RELATED TO POLITICS (Like Cincinnati Mayor Mallory shaming the world of Baseball) PLEASE DO NOT POST IT! Please give the city, the topic, and a brief description of why you shouldn't bring it up. Here's my shortlist: MilwaukeeJeffrey Dahmer: He killed 17 people and terrorized the gay community in the early 1990s. Many people will just refuse to talk about the subject. In my house, "Dahmer" was considered a derogatory word and would result in an ear-flicking. Ed Gein: You know what, just avoid the topic of serial killers in general. We've got a few. Chorizo Sausage: There is a sausage race at every Brewers Baseball game. It's a fun old tradition. But in 2006 they added a Chorizo Sausage to the race presumably to appeal to the large Hispanic population in Milwaukee. Well, it's been kind of a touchy race related issue ever since. Just avoid it. Illinois Drivers: You know, I can't believe the pent up aggression I feel whenever this gets brought up. We've got a large population of people driving through the city from Chicagoland. And because Chicago is bigger, richer, and "better" than Milwaukee they all feel that they own our roads and can create their own driving laws. If you're ever in a car with someone driving behind an Illinois car or you're in a crosswalk and an Illinois car doesn't stop for you, you're almost guaranteed to hear someone yell "FIB!" or "FISH!" This is our polite way of exclaiming "F--king Illinois B@stard!" or "F--king Illinois Sh!t Head" Cryptosporidium: Oh goodness, just avoid the topic. 400,000 people got sick from this stuff in 1993. Unless you want to head endless stories on bowel movements and vomiting just stay away from this one. It was not pretty. Brett Favre: JUST DON'T DO IT!!! It's amazing how emotional people are about this one. I've never seen so many butch men cry in my life than right after our beloved Brett Favre got traded to our arch enemies, The Vikings. You will now see sh!ts all over the place that simply say, "Brett Who?" Now you know what NOT to talk about when you visit me in Milwaukee. I want to know what Not to ask next time I visit wherever you live. Just remember to avoid politics, PLEASE.
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MyTwoSense
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 06:55:55 PM » |
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Cleveland
Numero uno would be Art Modell and a close second is Albert Porter.
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edale
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 07:16:20 PM » |
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Cincinnati:
1) Mike Brown
2) Chris Smitherman
3) Chris Finney
4) Maybe Si Leis, or at least the whole Maplethorpe controversy
There's not a lot of people that Cincinnati loves to hate. We tend to protect our own, so even people that are hated/looked down upon by the rest of the country are kind of loved in Cincinnati. Jerry Springer, Marge Schott, Lary Flynt, etc. They might be scum bags, but they're our scum bags, and we love them just the same.
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baseballmn907
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 07:29:05 PM » |
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Here's mine for Cleveland.
1) Art Modell - Stole the Browns
2) John Elway - Broke the Browns Hearts
3) Ben Roethlieberger - Ex-Ohioan that kills the Browns (also I went to Miami and everyone there despises him too)
4) Michael Jordan - Broke the Cavs Hearts
5) Every Single Person that thought bulldozing the Euclid Mansions from 1900-1950 would be good for the city. (and I know that's not just me)
Naturally, most of them have to do with sports from our sports crazed/deprived city.
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GCrites80s
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 07:52:03 PM » |
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Columbus: Anyone and everyone from the mitten part of Michigan. Except Kid Rock and ICP though it seems. The U.P. to gets a free pass as well.
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tedolph
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 07:52:29 PM » |
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for Cleveland you forgot George Steinbrener (sp?)
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acetone
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 10:28:48 PM » |
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NCR's Bill Nuti isn't the most popular guy in Dayton. Or that guy from Forbes.
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doctabroccoli
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 10:33:06 PM » |
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Prok, it's funny you should mention Illinois drivers in Wisconsin. When I was still in St. Louis, we used to say the opposite thing about Illinois drivers because all of them around St. Louis are small townie people, so they drive slooooooooowwwwwww as hell. We're more screaming to the drivers to get the eff out of the way!
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Loretto
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 11:02:52 PM » |
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Jeffrey Dahmer:
It's too soon to tell but Anthony Sowell might have this distinction in Cleveland. I found out this summer that one of my father's business partners was Jeffrey Dahmer's apartment leasing agent. I know totally random and dumb, but it was bizarre dinner conversation that came to mind.
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Ram23
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 12:02:37 AM » |
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Cincinnati: Kimo "the assasin" von Oelhoffen.
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KJP
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 01:22:37 AM » |
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Judge Alvin Krenzler in Cleveland. I know he's a politician, but he is also an investor, real estate developer and moreso, a demolitions expert -- including demolishing the Hippodrome Theater before anyone knew what was happening and before anyone could stop it.
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gotribe
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2009, 08:42:31 AM » |
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Jeffrey Dahmer:
It's too soon to tell but Anthony Sowell might have this distinction in Cleveland.
I found out this summer that one of my father's business partners was Jeffrey Dahmer's apartment leasing agent. I know totally random and dumb, but it was bizarre dinner conversation that came to mind.
Wasn't Jeffery Dahmer from Bath (Cleveland/Akron) If I remember correctly, he was, and his parents still live there.
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urbanomics
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2009, 08:47:04 AM » |
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Jeffrey Dahmer:
It's too soon to tell but Anthony Sowell might have this distinction in Cleveland.
I found out this summer that one of my father's business partners was Jeffrey Dahmer's apartment leasing agent. I know totally random and dumb, but it was bizarre dinner conversation that came to mind.
Wasn't Jeffery Dahmer from Bath (Cleveland/Akron) If I remember correctly, he was, and his parents still live there.
He was. He actually went to my high school (Revere), well before I went there though. My eighth grade science teacher had him in his class back then. Said he was just a quiet kid.
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2009, 09:04:41 AM » |
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Clevelanders love to hate Clevelanders.
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doctabroccoli
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2009, 09:05:40 AM » |
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Clevelanders love to hate Clevelanders.
Touche! How did we manage 16 hours without that response!?!
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shs96
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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2009, 09:23:51 AM » |
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Here's mine for Cleveland.
1) Art Modell - Stole the Browns
2) John Elway - Broke the Browns Hearts
3) Ben Roethlieberger - Ex-Ohioan that kills the Browns (also I went to Miami and everyone there despises him too)
4) Michael Jordan - Broke the Cavs Hearts
5) Every Single Person that thought bulldozing the Euclid Mansions from 1900-1950 would be good for the city. (and I know that's not just me)
Naturally, most of them have to do with sports from our sports crazed/deprived city.
Good list. Art Modell is far and away #1. Dude won't even set foot in the city for fear of imminent death. And Roethlisraper grew up in Findlay and was a 49ers fan...for no specific reason. One of my largest pet peeves is people who root for sports teams they have no affiliation for (i.e., they were good when you were a kid, so hop on the bandwagon). I also hate Bill Belichik for A) trading Kosar B) sucking while being a coach here and C) suddenly being the best football coach ever in new England.
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diaspora
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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2009, 09:29:28 AM » |
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Detroit: Ohio, William Clay Ford, Matty Moroun (owns the Bridge and a lot of the city), Woody Hayes (both because of the obvious UM rivalry and because he screwed MSU and got them on probation)...
There are others that are extremely polarizing...Kwame Kilpatrick, Bo Schembechler (MSU fans and Tigers fans hate him), Coleman Young, L. Brooks Patterson, etc.
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rockandroller
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2009, 09:30:45 AM » |
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I think a lot of Clevelanders love to hate Dennis Kucinich. I certainly don't, but a lot of people seem to.
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Hts44121
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2009, 09:45:43 AM » |
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Art Modell and nobody is even close in second place. However, if the NY Media has its way in the summer of 2010 (highly doubt it)... Lebron could rival Modell's status 'round here.
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Daytonnatian
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2009, 09:28:37 PM » |
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NCR's Bill Nuti isn't the most popular guy in Dayton. Or that guy from Forbes.
Throw Rhine McLin and basically anyone connected to GM or Delphi into the mix, as well.
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MyTwoSense
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2009, 08:01:56 AM » |
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Art Modell and nobody is even close in second place. However, if the NY Media has its way in the summer of 2010 (highly doubt it)... Lebron could rival Modell's status 'round here.
I think albert porter is a very close second. The man was power hungry! I probably wouldn't have grown up where I did if he had succeeded.
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KJP
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2009, 01:02:48 PM » |
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True. I hate Albert Porter more than I hate Art Model. Art destroyed a local sport. Albert destroyed an entire city.
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DanB
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2009, 02:23:35 PM » |
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--Vernon Stouffer for not selling the Indians to George Steinbrenner when he wanted to buy the team. Could you imagine?
--Frank Lane
--Gil McDougal
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C-Dawg Njaim
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2009, 02:57:03 PM » |
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Toledo
Tom Noe (Noe is viewed as the anti-Christ)
Carty Finkbeiner
Katie Holmes (not hated, just not as loved as some other celebrities from Toledo)
JOE THE PLUMBER (might rival Tom Noe, despite the fact Joe the Plumber hasn't stolen millions of dollars from anybody)
*edited to include Joe the Plumber
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Clefan98
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2009, 03:06:54 PM » |
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You can't hate the dawson creek katie holmes though
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CorySnyder
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2009, 03:12:49 PM » |
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Art Modell and nobody is even close in second place. However, if the NY Media has its way in the summer of 2010 (highly doubt it)... Lebron could rival Modell's status 'round here.
I think albert porter is a very close second. The man was power hungry! I probably wouldn't have grown up where I did if he had succeeded.
Who? This Albert Porter? - Albert Gallatin Porter (1824-1897), was an Indiana governor, and United States Congressman I have lived in Cleveland my whole life (besides college) and I have never heard of Albert Porter.
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Loretto
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2009, 03:30:17 PM » |
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Albert S. Porter is the one you're looking for. He is the one everyone is talking about when they reference the never built east side highways. Additionally he wanted to destroy the "Guardians of Transportation" statues on the Lorain-Carnegie bridge for extra lanes.
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