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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2009, 01:53:51 PM » |
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To my understanding and while the Fed gov't does pay the vets, it is common practice for the states to supplement the $ to their vets and Ohio is near the bottom (I think 2nd worst) in terms of financial support.
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diaspora
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2009, 02:48:57 PM » |
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I'm not saying i voted one way or the other, (armed services personnel are underpaid and underserved), why are the states supplementing their veterans? Anyone have a history on this?
The pro-side of this debate has said that this has been common practice after past wars. Why? and who does it go to? All vets? does it go to the national guardsmen that have been called up? is it only people that have seen combat?
I have a friend that spent 15 months or so in Baghdad with his national guard unit...will he get money? he lives here in Cincinnati but his unit is based out of Michigan (he moved here as soon as he got back to be with his fiance).
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MyTwoSense
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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2009, 03:00:33 PM » |
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I'm not saying i voted one way or the other, (armed services personnel are underpaid and underserved), why are the states supplementing their veterans? Anyone have a history on this?
The pro-side of this debate has said that this has been common practice after past wars. Why? and who does it go to? All vets? does it go to the national guardsmen that have been called up? is it only people that have seen combat?
I have a friend that spent 15 months or so in Baghdad with his national guard unit...will he get money? he lives here in Cincinnati but his unit is based out of Michigan (he moved here as soon as he got back to be with his fiance).
Aren't they aware of this going in? also, some folks who enlist, the pay is MUCH higher and better than what they were previously doing. Those are excellent questions. Is there documentation about this common practice?
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diaspora
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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2009, 03:09:58 PM » |
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It looks like my friend will be ineligible for this as you have to be an ohio resident at the beginning of your deployment.
According to the smartvoter information on this, one of the aims is to help transition these individuals back into civilian life. Well, maybe we could spend this money on services that would help them?
Hell, you come back from active duty you've got a pretty big bank account full of tax free money waiting for you...i'm not sure $5k is going to help transition you back to civilian life.
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Grumpy
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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2009, 03:48:52 PM » |
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armed services personnel are underpaid and underserved What are you basing this statement on? While a new recruit in the military makes very little in regular salary, it doesn't seem so bad when you consider that housing and meals are paid for on top of that salary. On top of that, the vast majority of servicemen and women move up in rank pretty quickly, so that within a couple years a soldier with a high school diploma is earning close to what the average college grad is making. While I would like to have made more money during my time in the Army, I can't say I was underpaid. While service members aren't ever going to get rich off of a military salary, and I think they deserve a descent salary, I think it's untrue to constantly call them underpaid.
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diaspora
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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2009, 04:23:54 PM » |
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I'm basing it on years old generalizations and attitudes.
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MyTwoSense
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« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2009, 04:36:07 PM » |
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I'm basing it on years old generalizations and attitudes.
Ooooh..... Not a good thing to do. Also, those enlisted have very good medical benefits.
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Loretto
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« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2009, 10:58:24 PM » |
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Well, this passes overwhelmingly and my Marine friends will be picking up the bar tabs for the next year.
Still don't agree with it financially, or in the context of the modern professional military, or that we should be compensating for the failure of the in state portion of the VA bureaucracy.
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Living in Gin
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« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2009, 12:25:22 AM » |
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Good. This issue hasn't generated as much drama as Issue 9 or the casino issue, but it's good to see this pass.
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Oldmanladyluck
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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2009, 10:15:35 AM » |
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Voted yes on this one, and I'm glad that it passed.
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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2009, 11:12:31 AM » |
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So how much is each person going to get? I've heard several different things.
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Grumpy
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« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2009, 11:43:11 AM » |
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So how much is each person going to get? I've heard several different things.
It depends on whether they spent any time in a combat zone, and how much time. Check out the last paragraph of this article.
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