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Author Topic: Cleveland: K&D Breuer Tower & Cleveland Trust Rotunda Development  (Read 1211 times)
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Etheostoma Caeruleum
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« Reply #630 on: July 19, 2009, 12:34:44 PM »

This whole saga makes me fume! Hiring consultants in these situations is sometimes needed, BUT, only as a last resort when getting such work done from within is NOTan option. If all this article is true to the tee... It was such a haphazard waste of money.

I get tired of hearing how the 'space is inadequate.' My question is WHY did it suddenly become so inadequate? I am sure with the floors cleared, a new configuration of the space can be created. Perhaps removing a floor and opening up atrium-like space. There are obviously companies out there who's specialty is making the best out of a bad situation, with the whole adaptive-reuse/configuration thing. Yes, this costs a lot, but for goodness sakes look how much was supposedly spent, anyway, and this complex is still siting desolate, on a main intersection, too! Is it really 'inadequate'...OR, is it more of a pervasive mentality these days to tear down and build new? I am sure many would have made heaps of money on that...while imposing demo fill on already stuffed Ohio landfills.

There are currently 2 way tooooooo obvious embarrassments downtown right now: The parking lots in the WHD/P.S., and this intersection comes to mind. It drives me up the wall when a local government entity purchases a property with public funds, then turns around and says it cannot use it in the end. Guess what? If I did that or anyone else, as an individual, I could not just turn around and walk away from it with ease. Where is the accountability?  Geeez! What it boils down to is 3 million to have someone go in there and tell you whether or not you can have your offices there....After you've invested over 21 million in purchasing it? As Hagen alluded to, this kind of work and decisions probably could have been done within. Then the decision to demolish the building! Oh, man...don't get me going on that one.

This corner is PRIME and even in a poor economy, you think it would be drawing some interest. Well, apparently it has, maybe we just don't hear about it in the news......Oh, but I forgot.. "the credit crunch" I'm just tired of hearing that! This building, if you look at it, is starting to look really filthy too... What a pillar statement to tough times, on what was once one of the busiest spots downtown!  When you envision what this corner/property structures could be/should be...it is hurtful to see it as it is right now.
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« Reply #631 on: July 19, 2009, 12:58:13 PM »

If you look up thread, you'll see why removing a floor/several floors cannot be done.  It's a cost prohibitive situation and the asbestos throughout the building does not help.
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« Reply #632 on: July 19, 2009, 02:07:29 PM »

If you look up thread, you'll see why removing a floor/several floors cannot be done.  It's a cost prohibitive situation and the asbestos throughout the building does not help.

I am familiar with that, but I still question it. Many would argue otherwise.....And, this situation is one reason why they should have not gotten into this deal. Such concerns need to be all worked out before making such a decision to purchase. So do you feel the county handled this responsibly?   :argue:  Here we go again...
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« Reply #633 on: July 19, 2009, 07:47:26 PM »

If you look up thread, you'll see why removing a floor/several floors cannot be done.  It's a cost prohibitive situation and the asbestos throughout the building does not help.

I am familiar with that, but I still question it. Many would argue otherwise.....And, this situation is one reason why they should have not gotten into this deal. Such concerns need to be all worked out before making such a decision to purchase. So do you feel the county handled this responsibly?   :argue:  Here we go again...

Hell no   :whip:

It should have been marketed as a hotel or a condo from jump!
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« Reply #634 on: July 20, 2009, 11:37:19 PM »

If you look up thread, you'll see why removing a floor/several floors cannot be done.  It's a cost prohibitive situation and the asbestos throughout the building does not help.

I am familiar with that, but I still question it. Many would argue otherwise.....And, this situation is one reason why they should have not gotten into this deal. Such concerns need to be all worked out before making such a decision to purchase. So do you feel the county handled this responsibly?   :argue:  Here we go again...

Hell no   :whip:

It should have been marketed as a hotel or a condo from jump!

I agree on that. I'd love to see the place cleaned/polished..and some accent lighting at night, perhaps. Could never understand why so many people seemed to think this building is ugly.
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« Reply #635 on: July 21, 2009, 12:52:28 AM »

I can understand why some don't like it,  tt has a dark brooding presence.  I personally love it and wouldn't doubt that someday it could be appreciated.   I just hope that day isn't 25 years from now after it has been torn down.
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« Reply #636 on: July 21, 2009, 05:03:15 PM »

The Breuer Tower is an amazing building. It would be foolish to knock down such a unique building to our city.
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« Reply #637 on: November 06, 2009, 03:49:37 PM »

Any news on development of this area at all? I was browsing around clevendskyscrapers.com and came across this rendering for a new Cuyahoga County Administration Center where the Breuer Tower currently stands:



This is probably an old rendering for previous plans Cuyahoga County had for it, but I figured since the County now owns it again, maybe they have new plans for it.

Sorry if I'm misinformed about any plans for this building. I don't live in Cleveland, but I try my best to keep up with news in Cleveland. 
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« Reply #638 on: November 06, 2009, 03:53:01 PM »

Currently nothing going on here (this thread should actually be in abandoned projects, I'll move it).  I know a major developer toured the building recently, but we're a long way from any activity at this point...
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« Reply #639 on: November 06, 2009, 04:01:42 PM »

How sad :( So I guess that rendering I posted is pretty old?
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