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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2345 on: September 08, 2008, 07:21:36 AM »
thank you for making me spit water on my keyboard...

It was funny, but it wasn't that funny!
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2346 on: September 08, 2008, 07:24:58 AM »
thank you for making me spit water on my keyboard...

It was funny, but it wasn't that funny!
You had to be there! :-P
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2347 on: September 08, 2008, 11:36:46 PM »
i just know mayday is sending copies of those outstanding pictures to the library. Very nice. Historic. In the day , I can remember hang'n wit da fellas an shoot'n rats off d'poo's dock @ 3 in the morning. Great memory's. Call the cops? Hell, they were already there. I was looking over the action a couple months ago and almost shed a tear watching my youth fade away. 
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2348 on: September 09, 2008, 03:51:16 AM »
Or this (the mystery hole/Ayers Rock)?



THIS!  IS!  CLEVELAND!

No one grabbed that one, huh?  I'm dissappointed.

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« Reply #2349 on: September 09, 2008, 03:52:37 AM »
^LOL!!
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2350 on: September 09, 2008, 12:57:59 PM »
Great pictures!

Are we ever going to see a decent rendering of the office tower?  Or, are we going to have to wait until it is built?

Also, are the Wolsteins ever going to have a formal groundbreaking?  By the looks of the pictures, I think they are too late!

For such a high profile project, the Wolsteins seem to have a very low key approach.

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« Reply #2351 on: September 09, 2008, 01:07:29 PM »
Great pictures!

Are we ever going to see a decent rendering of the office tower?  Or, are we going to have to wait until it is built?

Also, are the Wolsteins ever going to have a formal groundbreaking?  By the looks of the pictures, I think they are too late!

For such a high profile project, the Wolsteins seem to have a very low key approach.

They'll have to go to design review pretty soon. Once that happens, we should be able to see a rendering for the tower.
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2352 on: September 09, 2008, 01:42:12 PM »
This is just the infrastructure work they're doing. New sewers, streets, utilities, etc. I'll bet this portion alone (including ripping out the old stuff), is costing tens of millions of dollars. Think of what First Interstate had to do get ready to build Steelyard Commons, or what RTA had to do to with Euclid in the downtown portion. That's pretty much what's happening here except Wolstein gets to tear everything down and start all over. This is a LOT of work they have to do just to make the slate clean...
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« Reply #2353 on: September 09, 2008, 01:54:44 PM »
^and they are doing it quickly and en masse. It really is amazing how quickly things can get done when it is necessary (office tenant leases).
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2354 on: September 09, 2008, 01:57:48 PM »
And you don't have work around existing utilities, buildings or vehicular/pedestrian traffic. The city basically marked off that corner of downtown and said to Wolstein: "Here. It's all yours."
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2355 on: September 15, 2008, 02:50:45 AM »
I tailgated yesterday on the edge of the excavations, that was my first time seeing the construction up close and in person, the scale is pretty spectactular. There were a couple of guys down there working, it looked like they came out to see how sloppy the site was after all of the rain.
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2356 on: September 16, 2008, 02:26:24 AM »
I'd still like for the Hulett's to be incorporated somehow in that area's future.  I believe there is one slumbering over there somewhere (along west bank)
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2357 on: September 16, 2008, 02:28:37 AM »
^they've been trying to raise money to get those moved and set up for quite some time (I believe they want to put them in North Coast Harbour)... and I think they need like $1m to get it done or something outrageous.
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« Reply #2358 on: September 16, 2008, 04:02:47 AM »
^they've been trying to raise money to get those moved and set up for quite some time (I believe they want to put them in North Coast Harbour)... and I think they need like $1m to get it done or something outrageous.

Up to $6 Million http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/05/whatever_happened_to_the_hulet.html

The silos are relatively new - maybe 10 years old, give or take.
Perhaps this is where Cleveland Public Art should step in.


I didn't realize they were that new. Regardless, they are not a pretty sight by any stretch of the imagination, and if they aren't removed, I agree that some form of modification, makeover, or artwork could make them look nicer. For that matter even if they are removed, I think that the mouth of the river would be a great spot for a large/iconic piece of public artwork.

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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2359 on: September 16, 2008, 05:06:48 AM »
The Cuyahoga river is still a working river, not all sights are going to be pretty. The silos, though uneappealing to the eye, adds visual interest to the river. The river and lake are inheriently boring to look at. Its the activity of boats on these waterways that makes them interesting. So long as the concrete silos are there, there will be boats there.

They aren't worth fussing with, move them when the port leaves, and that segment of the river ceases to be a working part of the river. They just arent worth the big fuss right now.

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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2360 on: September 17, 2008, 06:44:13 AM »
Please direct your comments and other messages regarding the possible Eaton Corp. move from downtown Cleveland to the following thread....

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,17327.0.html

It's obviously a very emotional subject with a lot of comments likely to follow, so let's keep this discussion here focused on the Flats East Bank project.

And if Eaton Corp. really is moving from downtown, then the other thread will be the place to discuss that construction project (as much as it might hurt!).
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2361 on: September 17, 2008, 01:46:12 PM »
according to a press realease from the wolstein group it looks like they have inquires about companies outside Ohio wanting to move to the flats. That is interesting.

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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2362 on: September 17, 2008, 01:49:07 PM »
Can you post the press release so we can all salivate over it together?

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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2363 on: September 17, 2008, 01:57:06 PM »
Looks like i know what ill be doing before going to bed tonight
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2364 on: September 17, 2008, 02:20:13 PM »
Um....   never mind.

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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2365 on: September 17, 2008, 05:30:23 PM »
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2366 on: September 17, 2008, 05:43:29 PM »
Flats Response To Eaton Move



http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/09/flats-east-bank-statement.pdf


Thanks for posting...there's our "press release"!

I'm mostly impressed on how fast of a response this was.
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2367 on: September 17, 2008, 05:46:46 PM »
I just fixed the image so it shows the press release without clicking it :)

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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2368 on: September 17, 2008, 05:55:17 PM »
Looking forward to some good news - even if it's smaller companies, new blood is great. 

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« Reply #2369 on: September 18, 2008, 12:19:15 AM »
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« Reply #2370 on: September 18, 2008, 01:26:04 AM »
"inquiries from outside Ohio"

I sure wish that meant signed leases from companies outside Ohio.
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2371 on: September 18, 2008, 01:27:39 AM »
Good, lets snake some companies from other cities.

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« Reply #2372 on: September 18, 2008, 01:41:02 AM »
Good, lets snake some companies from other cities.

We need some robinhood action around here.
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2373 on: September 18, 2008, 02:48:13 AM »
"inquiries from outside Ohio"

I sure wish that meant signed leases from companies outside Ohio.
They have said this before so this isn't new but in light of recent events, I'll take it.

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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2374 on: September 18, 2008, 06:59:54 AM »
mmmmm... retailers...

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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2375 on: September 18, 2008, 07:02:40 AM »
I spoke to Lesic a little while ago on an unrelated matter and asked her about the interest in FEB office space from outside interests. She said the interest is coming from outside Ohio as well as from suburban Cleveland office tenants. No leases yet, though.
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« Reply #2376 on: September 18, 2008, 07:12:11 AM »
I would love to rip business from the burbs. 

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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2377 on: September 18, 2008, 07:35:51 AM »
My preferred perch was taken out of commission by the drillers on the right:





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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2378 on: September 18, 2008, 09:20:46 AM »
Thanks for the updates MayDay

Do we have some engineers that can speak to what the steel anchored to the wall is all about?
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Re: Cleveland: Flats East Bank
« Reply #2379 on: September 18, 2008, 09:22:33 AM »
...wow.