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Question is....Is St. Louis willing to follow Cleveland's lead considering that St. Louis' healthcare industry and workforce is larger than Cleveland's? The Cleveland Clinic consistently ranks in the Top #10 of U.S. hospitals - as does BJC Hospital.
^^Anyone notice their caption of the "Cleveland Clinic" is UH and CWRU?
Just thought Id cross post my photo tour here if anyone would like to see it:http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,28146.0.html
I drove by on Lakeside yesterday, and I thought that the slope creating vertical clearance for the Lakeside entrance was a stroke of genius. Not only did it allow for the 30' ceiling height, but it gave the center a street presence that an underground facility would not normally have, as well a raised vantage point from which to view the Lakefront.
^ The front door.
Ahh well, Burnham Plan be damned....
Quote from: CleburgerAhh well, Burnham Plan be damned....indeed. also, don't forget CMSD selling their HQ bldg.....so much for the mall being surrounded by public bldgs....
That's probably not the best place to play sports, with the needs of a convention center taking the first priority. A sports field could be built anywhere, although I realize it has not. There certainly does need to be such a field in or close to downtown. But if I had to choose between that and a better-designed convention center, I choose the latter.
I didn't say we should place the needs of a sports field above the needs of the convention center. What I will say is that we got an inferior design because we placed an arbitrary number on what we would spend, instead of spending what we should have to have done the project right. It's too late now, but I'm not going to pretend that I think the solution was genius or anything but a compromise.
I don't like it. It prevents the Mall from being the one grand space it was, and imo changes the sense of place for the worse. Practically, it makes the space less useful as a playfield (I liked to play frisbee there, others used to play soccer). I'm sure it can still be used, it just isn't as good anymore for that, and that's something that the young, physically active residents we are trying to lure Downtown would enjoy.
My concept of rotating Cleveland Browns Stadium redesigned with open ends incorporates the original plan which I believe would bridge the gap between the lakefront and the malls. Think of all the connected activity on The Malls during game days. None of my plan involves destroying the look of the malls The view from the convention ballroom would be one end of the stadium. The stadium field should be opened to the public in the off season since the citizens of the county helped to pay for the design.Again activating the malls. The malls continuation to the lakefront would be another flat area for Clevelanders to enjoy.
Strap, yes, that's correct. The problem is that they set that as the budget and designed around it, instead of even trying to find the extra funds to do the thing better. Maybe they wouldn't have found them, and we would have been stuck with just that amount, but at least try!