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gottaplan
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Also posted under the Shoreway thread, but since this already has news updates on the tunnel renovation, I'll post here as well... The ODOT project to renovate the tunnels to Edgewater at W. 76th and at Lake in front of Don's Lighthouse is now out for bid. Contractors bids are due on June 3rd and we should see work starting by the end of July. For anyone interested, plans can be viewed here, https://extranet.dot.state.oh.us/groups/contracts/Lists/ConstructionBiddingDocs/Links.aspxProject number 100379 I scanned through the prints and the project to renovate these tunnels is much more than I initially anticipated. Both tunnels are getting alot of work to patch & recoat the walls, floor & ceilings, alot of new lighting, of course the new cut & fill to build the ramps, removing the steps, concrete retaining walls, new landscaping, a good amount of new drainage pipe & structures... Both tunnels should get a ton of use though when these projects are finished.
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-tina
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Hi all - I am moving to Battery Park (as a renter) in a few weeks so I just wanted to say hello to some of my new neighbors! I am moving from Edgewater, but don't know anybody in D-S. In fact, I'm moving to the neighborhood against the advice of some well-meaning friends.
Any advice for a newcomer to the neighborhood?
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MyTwoSense
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Hi all - I am moving to Battery Park (as a renter) in a few weeks so I just wanted to say hello to some of my new neighbors! I am moving from Edgewater, but don't know anybody in D-S. In fact, I'm moving to the neighborhood against the advice of some well-meaning friends.
Any advice for a newcomer to the neighborhood?
Why would well-meaning friends not want you to move to D-S?
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-tina
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Some felt that the area was unsafe, especially for a single female. I only live a couple miles away now, so I did my own test. I walked to Edgewater Park, under the Shoreway, up into the neighborhood, and all the way back down Lake Ave at about 8pm. I never felt unsafe. So I decided to disregard their advice. Now, when I looked at a couple units at Stonebridge, in my quick visit there I was approached by a homeless man while I was in my car. That did freak me out a little. Sometimes I just wonder because I grew up in the country and maybe don't have the requisite street sense. But I think some common sense plus a little Mace on a keychain should be all I need.
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327
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Stonebridge is a lot closer to the projects and major service center for the homeless. I guess I would advise not going too far south on 65th, towards Lorain, because it seems like a lot of the crime in "Detroit Shoreway" takes place in that area rather than near Battery Park. The same could be said for Edgewater really, don't go too far south. Sounds to me like you know what you're doing.
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gottaplan
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BP is a very safe area. Sent you a PM with an invite to some upcoming events. Welcome to the neighborhood. I know several people who came in originally as renters and liked it so much they decided to buy a place.
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doctabroccoli
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Advice is great..... sometimes. But really, it's all about what you feel comfortable with. Believe me, when I told my mom I was moving downtown she flipped the sh!t out because the homeless people in Cleveland scare her for some reason. It's all about perspective  . I'm sure you'll love Battery Park! Congrats on the new digs!
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Htsguy
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^People (I guess especially from the suburbs) have a funny prespective about homeless people. I worked downtown for 25 years...besides being bothersome they were generally some of the most harmless people around...some were even polite and gentle and often "halirous" as they tried to come up with a convincing story for $$. There are differently other people that I would be concerned about that were not homeless (mostly young and drunk) and also more concerned in the neighborhoods than downtown.
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327
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All who panhandle are not homeless,
Not all those who wander are lost.
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MuRrAy HiLL
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All who panhandle are not homeless,
Not all those who wander are lost.
^^Are those both JRR Tolkien quotes? 
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Niko
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All who panhandle are not homeless,
Not all those who wander are lost.
You're not kidding, a guy wearing brand new air jordans asked me for a dollar in TC the other day.
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Hootenany
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Homeless people are generally harmless in my experience. I come across several on a daily basis while walking my dog and I've gotten to know a couple of them. They're nice people that have just had a tough life. Just be respectful and treat them like human beings and you'll be fine.
Panhandlers are another story as they can be a little more aggressive, but be persistant and polite and they'll get the message.
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-tina
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Sorry, I should have drafted a little more carefully. I didn't really mean my earlier comment as an offensive to homeless people and I think it sort of came off that way. I was already aware there were a number in the area adjacent to Stonebridge but this particular guy came up to me while I was sitting in my car, which somehow felt threatening to me. I think it is all about perspective. But in any case, I am very excited about my move. I hope to meet some UO'ers in the neighborhood. If you see somebody carrying around textbooks all the time, that would be me. I'm sitting for the bar exam this summer, but hope to be a normal person again about mid-August. 
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327
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Best of luck! Keep at it and you'll do fine. It took me a whole month to get back to normal though.
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Etheostoma Caeruleum
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When panhandlers jingle the cup at me I simply say... "No thanks....you keep it!"
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bumsquare
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When panhandlers jingle the cup at me I simply say... "No thanks....you keep it!"
Wow that's horrible!
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dergon darkhelm
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Hi all - I am moving to Battery Park (as a renter) in a few weeks so I just wanted to say hello to some of my new neighbors! I am moving from Edgewater, but don't know anybody in D-S. In fact, I'm moving to the neighborhood against the advice of some well-meaning friends.
Any advice for a newcomer to the neighborhood?
Don't worry about physical safety....you'll be fine. Do worry about petty theft. (Don't leave your garage door open and unattended, don't leave a bike or a grill unchained at ground level, don't leave car doors unlocked). Local naer-do-wells frequently cruise the back of our units casing us for easy pickings. Living in Casa Belvedere, just East of BP, we have witnessed infrequent petty crime and vandalism over the last 12 years, but few assaults, etc. Do be careful in Edgewater alone toward dark. I have female friend who was harassed in the tunnel by a "penis wielding" man, but we think it was more for shock value than for assault purposes. Do spend lots of money at local eateries and other businesses Enjoy the neighborhood and WELCOME!
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jmjr
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Hi all - I am moving to Battery Park (as a renter) in a few weeks so I just wanted to say hello to some of my new neighbors! I am moving from Edgewater, but don't know anybody in D-S. In fact, I'm moving to the neighborhood against the advice of some well-meaning friends.
Any advice for a newcomer to the neighborhood?
Welcome! Advice -- get involved in the groups at BP and/or the neighborhood block club. Say hello -- you'll find BP to be friendly and a good place to be.
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gottaplan
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Things are really moving along - going to start building the last 2 homes on 76th soon and another building over between 73rd & 74th. Won't be long and we'll all be wishing it wasn't so crowded.
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dergon darkhelm
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Won't be long and we'll all be wishing it wasn't so crowded.
I passed that point in about 2007
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gottaplan
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Last house on 76th got the basement dug & footer poured last week. Only leaves 1 more to go, probably after the walls get poured & backfilled on the first one. Next phase of the Skyline townhomes, facing North between 73rd & 74th, should be starting soon also.
Tunnel at 76th to the beach will be starting after Labor Day weekend.
Powerhouse is progressing. I've seen an alarm company working out there recently and interior walls are up & painted.
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jmjr
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Nice! Cannot wait until we have a restaurant in there perhaps!
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StrapHanger
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I knew progress was steady, but looking at the updated aerial photo on google.maps, I must say I was very impressed just how much of Battery Park has filled out. It's not like the project has flown under the radar, but it's really awesome to realize just how big and successful this project has been for the City. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Cleveland,+OH&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=40.732051,107.138672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Cleveland,+Cuyahoga,+Ohio&ll=41.486266,-81.73532&spn=0.002359,0.006539&t=h&z=18
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gottaplan
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Very interesting that you brought up the Google map thing. I was looking at it last night, and they must've just updated that view about a month ago, like end of June, because I can tell by looking at the progress of the homes and I know what was done & when... Street view is still way outdated though, doesn't show much except blank fields out there, but new flashes every so often... weird
If you really want to be impressed, come check out a volleyball league some night after work. People everywhere
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