Topic: Cleveland: Wind Power Developments

[blinker12]

Great find 8SOG! I put it up on photobucket so we have it for posterity... though unfortunately it's a little small.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/blinker1_2000/Miscellaneous/csuwindmill.jpg

[musky]

The article implies the president wants it on a building, but the talk I am hearing in the office is saying they are looking to place it on the southwest corner of the Wolstein Center. At 150' in height, I am not sure how 'good' that will look.
On my list of things to do (page 12) is to photoshop the screw in that location. I will post when complete.

[the pope]

i want one of those in my backyard

[Map Boy]

For those of you who are interested (you obviously are, or you wouldn't be reading this thread!):

From the Levin College Forum:

At New Energy Future for Northeas Ohio: A Two Part Series

Recent discussions about regional economic
development have been focusing on how to build on
our economic strengths and create sustainable jobs
for the future.  The Cleveland Foundation has been
working to foster development of advanced energy
industries, including wind turbines, solar panels
and fuel cells to make Cleveland on of the world's
leading hubs of activity in advanced energy.  These
forums will explore how The Cleveland Foundation is
working with local companies to develop an advanced
energy strategy and how this can create jobs and
improve Ohio's economy while contributing to
national security and environmental quality.

Building an Advanced Energy Industry in Northeast Ohio

Wednesday, October 18th, 2006
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.

* Richard T. Stuebi, BP Fellow for Energy and
Environmental Advancement, The Cleveland
Foundation

* Timothy Curtiss, CEO, Liquid Resources

* Benson Lee, President and CEO, Technology
Management, Inc.


Energy, Oil and National Security

Thursday, January 18, 2007
From 4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.

Ronald B. Richard, President and CEO, The
Cleveland Foundation


To register or learn more, visit: http://urban.csuohio.edu/forum/energy/

[Brewmaster]

I think it would be interesting to integrate wind turbines into a new building just like they're integrated into the spire.  The building could jut out at every floor and leave pockets for turbines in between.  In other words...it would be shaped more like a spinal column (vertebrae) than a corkscrew. 

If only I could make computer renderings...

[Map Boy]

This is happening in some of the more "spendy" building projects around the world (there seems to be an example in every issue of Metropolis Magazine), but you're right.  It should become more of the norm.  I guess it's about being forward thinking... doing the things that will make your building more sustainable, environmentally and financially, in the long run.  A big part of that is marketability.  If you can advertise your building as LEED platinum or "high performance," I think that's going to mean a lot more market share in the future.  People are going to know what that means for their company's image...and their bottom line.  Also, there should be more incentives (tax credits, loan packages, etc.) to develop buildings this way in the short-term, until the market takes it to the next level.

[oallostavros]

Some more...

http://www.csuohio.edu/clevelandstater/news/news092406.html

[CornerCurve]

Not quite a Cleveland development, but a hopeful national article

Support for wind power picking up speed

POSTED: 11:50 a.m. EDT, October 9, 2006

By Gary Nurenberg
CNN


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- You don't have to be in the path of a hurricane to understand the power of wind.

[musky]

Also not Cleveland related, but there is an Ohio connection.
From Reuters:

Whole Foods offers cards to fund wind power market
Wed Nov 1, 2006 1:30pm ET25

 LOS ANGELES, Nov 1 (Reuters)

There is a store in Columbus, but the nearest to Cleveland is in Troy, Michigan

[3231]

Musky,

Whole Foods will open a Cleveland-area store at Warrensville and Cedar in the next few months. Construction has long since begun.

[MyTwoSense]

Troy, MI is closer to Cleveland than Columbus?

[the pope]

Troy, MI is closer to Cleveland than Columbus?

only if you're in my helicopter.

[3231]

Troy, MI is closer to Cleveland than Columbus?

only if you're in my helicopter.

Or if you have some errands to run in St. Louis on your way from Columbus.

[MyTwoSense]

Troy, MI is closer to Cleveland than Columbus?

only if you're in my helicopter.

Or if you have some errands to run in St. Louis on your way from Columbus.

Apparently Musky is using a different map and route calculation than us!  LOL

When driving and his wife says pull over for directions, I'm sure Musky quotes a "man law" and convinces his wife...he knows exactly where he's at and where going!

note to self:  Never ask Musky for directions   

[Map Boy]

How about this for being on-topic?

WCPN has a "Wind Power Webliography" on its site:

http://www.wcpn.org/news/2006/10-12/1101windPowerWeb.html

WVIZ's Ideas program also had a story on wind power developments on Wednesday night.  They interviewed the City of Cleveland's Sustainability Programs Manager, Andrew Watterson, as well as a rep from Green Energy Ohio.  It will be re-broadcast at 11:00 am on Sunday, November 5th. 

[musky]

Whoooaaa doggy.
Did I miss the "Pick on Musky Day" in the calendar?

Anyway, I was using the store locater on the Whole Foods website based on my zip code: 44111
http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/stores/StoreList.html?zip=44111&state=Select...&searchBtn=Search

Troy   104.24 miles Northwest
2880 West Maple Rd
Troy, MI 48084
Phone: 248.649.9600
Fax: 248.649.1141
View Map   More Store Info.
 
West Bloomfield   109.91 miles Northwest
7350 Orchard Lake Rd
West Bloomfield, MI 48322
Phone: 248.538.4600
Fax: 248.538.4601
View Map   More Store Info.
 
Rochester Hills   110.26 miles Northwest
1404 Walton Blvd
Rochester Hills, MI 48309
Phone: 248.652.2100
Fax: 248.652.3273
View Map   More Store Info.
 
Ann Arbor   113.07 miles Northwest
3135 Washtenaw Ave
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
Phone: 734.975.4500
Fax: 734.975.4545
View Map   More Store Info.
 
Columbus   116.34 miles Southwest
3670 W. Dublin-Granville Rd
Columbus, OH 43235
Phone: 614.760.5556
View Map   More Store Info.

So I'll take the helicopter.

I forgot about the new one opening here.

[KJP]

Looks like you're going to Troy in the meantime. Say 'hi' to Helen for me.

[musky]

Cleveland.com:

METRO: Harnessing wind creates jobs
By John C. Kuehner
Plain Dealer Reporter

[Map Boy]

“We were way ahead,” he said. “For Cleveland not to have a prominent position in this industry would be incredible since it had such a significant role in development of the technology.”

Seriously! 

[8ShadesofGray]

I'm always amazed that as we try to position ourselves as frontrunners in wind energy research and production, we don't mention our even older ties to wind innovation. Sure, it's cool that NASA Glenn was a pioneer in wind energy in the 1970s and 1980s, but how about some props to Charles Brush, the guy who created the first electricity-generated windmill ... in 1888 ... at Euclid and 37th. We should be selling the sh*t out of that tidbit; together with NASA's pioneering and the CSU development of the "urban turbine", Cleveland has a 120-year history of wind innovation.

Next step, capitalize on Brush's invention of electric public lighting on Public Square (ca. 1879) and install a world-class demonstration of solar energy lighting in the same space.

I hark on this point a lot, but I think that by tying Cleveland's incredible history of innovation to our current innovations in medicine, energy, technology and culture (and displaying these messages in high-profile public spaces around town), we can develop a very compelling brand image as the illustrious pioneer that we have been, are and will be.

[freethink]

Here is a link to a very cool article dated December 1890 from the Scientific American about Charles Brush and the windmill.
http://www.windpower.org/en/pictures/brush.htm

[willyboy]

8shades, you are so right here.  It frustrates me that there have been so many things invented, discovered and the amazing history etc., in Cleveland that most people would never know.  I try to inform every visitor I bring to town, but I cant believe that the city has not capitalized more on this.     

[Map Boy]

I'm always amazed that as we try to position ourselves as frontrunners in wind energy research and production, we don't mention our even older ties to wind innovation...

Next step, capitalize on Brush's invention of electric public lighting on Public Square (ca. 1879) and install a world-class demonstration of solar energy lighting in the same space.

I hark on this point a lot, but I think that by tying Cleveland's incredible history of innovation to our current innovations in medicine, energy, technology and culture (and displaying these messages in high-profile public spaces around town), we can develop a very compelling brand image as the illustrious pioneer that we have been, are and will be.

Amen to that!  Have you brought this up with anyone about making it happen? 

[jamiec]

Yeah, they are working on creating a "brand image" right now. In fact, they are trying to tie Akron and Cleveland together with the eventual marketing campaign. Akron DOES have the Inventor's Hall of Fame, so there is a thread popping in my head already!

E-mail Rick Batyko at rbatyko@gcparternship.com if you'd like to share your ideas. I'm sure he'd love to hear them.

[the pope]

does any else find it funny that the turbine is off today?

I'm guessing it has to do with something along the lines of "too much wind"?

anyone know?

[3231]

does any else find it funny that the turbine is off today?

I'm guessing it has to do with something along the lines of "too much wind"?



^kind of like how Mama Santa's closes during The Feast.

[8ShadesofGray]

^^ I think you're right, Pope. If I recall correctly, the turbine automatically stops rotating when winds hit a certain speed as a precaution to protect the machine from serious damage.

[MayDay]

Being about one block from it, I'm glad the turbine's off. I'd hate to have to dodge that thing if it ever flew up East 9th!

[zaceman]

no it was going full speed today around noon when i drove by it...

[Map Boy]

^^ I think you're right, Pope. If I recall correctly, the turbine automatically stops rotating when winds hit a certain speed as a precaution to protect the machine from serious damage.

I remember that being in one of the early articles about the turbine as well.  The thing was really whipping when I drove by around 9 am yesterday morning, though!

[musky]

The CSU Wind Spire tower is a go!!!

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=2289.msg145716#msg145716

[musky]

All this is a wind related project, it is also a CSU project.
There are renderings of the proposal here:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=2289.msg145832#msg145832

[the pope]

from across the pond:



Offshore wind farms get go-ahead
The green light has been given for two offshore wind farms in the Thames Estuary, one of which will be the world's biggest when it is completed.

The government said the schemes would produce enough renewable electricity to power about one million households.

The larger London Array project covers 90 sq miles (232 sq km) between Margate in Kent and Clacton, Essex.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/england/kent/6188133.stm

[musky]

Wind power along Lake Erie just might fly
Friday, January 12, 2007
Tom Breckenridge
Plain Dealer Reporter

[w28th]

I would put this midway on the fantasy-to-reality scale.

^^Why?