Author Topic: New Ball Parks for Florida's MLB Teams (Read 19084 times)

Florida Guy · « **on:** February 21, 2008, 02:52:00 AM »

Tampa Bay Devil Rays 'sailboat' stadium, St. Petersburg:

Don't adjust your monitors, people. Pictured above is a rendering of the Rays' proposed $450 million waterfront stadium in St. Petersburg. The photos of this plan have been available for some time, but the team just released this image yesterday, which features the park with the roof in the "closed" position. As you can tell from the photo, translucency is king. And after seeing those Lindsay Lohan photos in New York magazine, I have to ask: Who doesn't love translucency?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/mlb_experts/post/Tampa-takes-quantum-leap-in-ballpark-design?urn=mlb%2C67665

Marlins Park, Miami:

Posted on Thu, Feb. 21, 2008
Numbers favor Marlins in stadium deal
BY CHARLES RABIN

As Miami and Miami-Dade County stand poised to cast historic votes to grant the Florida Marlins a long-sought new baseball stadium, an analysis of the deal's financing shows that while the club is on the hook for construction overruns, it would reap bountiful benefits.
Meanwhile, the cost to the public could increase.

http://www.miamiherald.com/589/story/427010.html

MyTwoSense · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2008, 03:34:04 AM »

One good lightening bolt will fix that!

ColDayMan · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2008, 10:51:35 AM »

Love that Tampa Bay stadium.

X · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2008, 04:19:06 PM »

Yeah, that could end up being the coolest stadium in the MLB.

mrnyc · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2008, 04:27:07 PM »

both look better than the two new ny baseball stadiums going up.

UncleRando · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2008, 04:35:13 PM »

Looks great...Tampa Bay probably can't wait to rid themselves of that hot mess called Tropicana Field.

Florida Guy · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2008, 01:55:53 AM »

^ I was at the second or third game the Rays played there in their first season, ya wat'a dump!

Play ball! Marlins stadium wins approval in Miami
By Sarah Talalay
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
February 22, 2008

It took all day and late into the evening, but the Florida Marlins walked away from the Miami-Dade government center Thursday with the approvals that could finally allow the team to break ground on a new ballpark this year.

More at http://www.sun-sentinel.com

lostincincinnati · « **Reply #7 on:** February 22, 2008, 02:14:02 AM »

The only potential problem I could see happening with the Devil's Ray new stadium is player possibly losing pop ups in the white translucent covering. This is a common heart ache in for the Twins and teams that play there. Anyways, the design looks good, it is definitely different from the normal MLB stadium. It has a Montreal/Japanese feel to it.

www.ballparks.com

--this is a good website. it has all the old, present and future stadiums for MLB, NFL, Hockey, NBA, race tracks college stadiums and even some foreign stadiums. Check out the Great American Page. They show some of the old renderings of the early stages.

MyTwoSense · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2008, 02:26:38 AM »

Yeah, but will the team playing in the stadium be any good?

Florida Guy · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2008, 02:45:15 AM »

That is a horse of another color! Anyway, I'm happy the "Florida Marlins" will become the "Miami Marlins." It just sounds better.

MyTwoSense · « **Reply #10 on:** February 22, 2008, 04:32:57 AM »

I still perfer "da fishes". lol

mrnyc · « **Reply #11 on:** February 22, 2008, 06:11:24 AM »

i would have preferred they call themselves "world series runner-ups 1997"

MyTwoSense · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2008, 06:19:43 AM »

Quote from: mrnyc on February 22, 2008, 06:11:24 AM

i would have preferred they call themselves "world series runner-ups 1997"

Touche!

oakiehigh · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2008, 07:59:04 AM »

WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT SAIL ROOF DURING HURRICANE WINDS?

lostincincinnati · « **Reply #14 on:** February 22, 2008, 08:01:46 AM »

I am assuming they can remove it?...

Florida Guy · « **Reply #15 on:** February 22, 2008, 08:06:10 AM »

The most distinctive feature would be a 320-foot tower beyond the outfield to hold up a grid of cables over the field like a trellis. In the case of strong sun or rain, the tower would winch up a white tarp stored in the top rim of the stadium to cover all the seats within eight minutes, the team said.

lostincincinnati · « **Reply #16 on:** February 22, 2008, 08:09:44 AM »

Quote from: Florida Guy on February 22, 2008, 02:45:15 AM

That is a horse of another color! Anyway, I'm happy the "Florida Marlins" will become the "Miami Marlins." It just sounds better.

Is that official? I haven't been able to see that on ESPN or any other sports site.

Florida Guy · « **Reply #17 on:** February 22, 2008, 08:15:42 AM »

^ As of yesterday it was approved by the Marlins/County but not with MLB (as part of the stadium deal). I don't see MLB having any problem with it though.

More images of 'sailboat' stadium:

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/webspecials07/photo_galleries/newballparkgallery/index.shtml

lostincincinnati · « **Reply #18 on:** February 22, 2008, 08:17:45 AM »

^ I'm sorry, I meant the name change from Florida Marlins to Miami Marlins

lostincincinnati · « **Reply #19 on:** February 22, 2008, 08:20:19 AM »

scratch my last post. sorry

unusualfire · « **Reply #20 on:** February 26, 2008, 04:38:50 AM »

What happens if Miami still gets 4k a game?

MyTwoSense · « **Reply #21 on:** February 26, 2008, 04:41:22 AM »

Quote from: unusualfire on February 26, 2008, 04:38:50 AM

What happens if Miami still gets 4k a game?

They'll be the Knicks!

Florida Guy · « **Reply #22 on:** February 26, 2008, 04:43:40 AM »

A new stadium can do wonders, just ask the Cleveland Indians.

MyTwoSense · « **Reply #23 on:** February 26, 2008, 04:47:50 AM »

Quote from: Florida Guy on February 26, 2008, 04:43:40 AM

A new stadium can do wonders, just ask the Cleveland Indians.

but the injuns had talent! 10 years of talent! AND there were no Browns games for part of that run along with a mediocre Cavs.

Since the Indians were the only winning team in town, they got the lions share of attendance and visitors. Now that all three teams are poised to perform well for the next 3 years the purchasing power has spread.

3231 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:19:01 AM »

Quote from: Florida Guy on February 26, 2008, 04:43:40 AM

A new stadium can do wonders, just ask the Cleveland Indians.

I find that to be an odd misconception. If the Indians didn't have any talent in 1994, then there would have been a lot less interest in that club. Its not like the new great architecture turned the team into a contender.

Florida Guy · « **Reply #25 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:44:50 AM »

I'm not saying that it made the Indians a contender, I'm responding to this: What happens if Miami still gets 4k a game?

DanB · « **Reply #26 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:49:23 AM »

Other cities have gotten new stadia and have not drawn the crowds like Cleveland did. I still say had the "Jake" not been ready in 94, this team of Indians would have put 60,000 a night into Cleveland Stadium. That's what I had been hoping for. It wasn't the ballparks fault all those years.

MyTwoSense · « **Reply #27 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:54:13 AM »

Quote from: DanB on February 26, 2008, 05:49:23 AM

Other cities have gotten new stadia and have not drawn the crowds like Cleveland did. I still say had the "Jake" not been ready in 94, this team of Indians would have put 60,000 a night into Cleveland Stadium. That's what I had been hoping for. It wasn't the ballparks fault all those years.

DING..DING..DING. We have a winner!

Florida Guy · « **Reply #28 on:** February 26, 2008, 06:39:19 AM »

The Greatest Comebacks of All Time
New Ballparks Have Been the Catalyst For Some of Baseball’s Greatest Revivals

By Peter Handrinos

When fans think of baseball comebacks, there’s no shortage of fantastic examples.

http://www.unitedstatesofbaseball.com/statistics.asp

lostincincinnati · « **Reply #29 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:02:30 AM »

^Hogwash. A new ballpark does not mean a better team. The Yankees have been in Yankee Stadium for almost 100 years. They have won over 25 World Series Titles, so according to that article, they should even improve on those past numbers. Come on now, ah, people speculate too much. Let's build the Reds a new stadium to get 4 more wins in every season. They will just build their way into the playoffs. Sorry FG, not bashing you, just the article.

Florida Guy · « **Reply #30 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:09:24 AM »

That is why I highlighted the attendace part, if a team doesn't have talent, a new ball park isn't going to make any difference.

lostincincinnati · « **Reply #31 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:10:30 AM »

Guess I need to stop skimming. Apologies.

UncleRando · « **Reply #32 on:** February 26, 2008, 01:37:31 PM »

Quote from: unusualfire on February 26, 2008, 04:38:50 AM

What happens if Miami still gets 4k a game?

Well this is Florida...so I wouldn't expect things to improve all that much. Miami has trouble filling Dolphins games (even when they were most recently good), they seem to struggle with almost every single professional franchise located there. Aside from the fair weather, Florida seems to have nothing else going for its professional sports franchises.

I'll be bold and make the statement that the Marlins, Devil Rays, Magic, and Dolphins should all be relocated.

edale · « **Reply #33 on:** February 26, 2008, 02:51:34 PM »

Devil Rays, maybe. Magic, maybe. Marlins, probably not. Dolphins, absolutely not. The Dolphins have history and a loyal fan base in Miami, plus it is one of the biggest US markets- they should have a team. If any NFL team should be moved it should be the Bills or the Raiders, and the team should go to Los Angeles.

DanB · « **Reply #34 on:** February 26, 2008, 02:51:53 PM »

Quote from: UncleRando on February 26, 2008, 01:37:31 PM

Well this is Florida...so I wouldn't expect things to improve all that much. Miami has trouble filling Dolphins games (even when they were most recently good).....

I have to give you credit, you never let the facts get in your way!!!

Dolphin Attendance: 97% Capacity over last 7 years
   Record   Attendance

2007 1-15 70951
2006    6-10   73247
2005    9-7   71907
2004    4-12   72601
2003    10-6   73474
2002    9-7   73190
2001    11-5   73516

Bengals Attendance: 94% Capacity over last 7 years

   Record   Attendance
2007    7-9   65790
2006    8-8   65984
2005    11-5   65809
2004    8-8   65530
2003    8-8   59936
2002    2-14   52779
2001    6-10   56867

By your logic, the Bengals should also be relocated!!

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Author Topic: New Ball Parks for Florida's MLB Teams (Read 19084 times)