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McCleveland
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that was just some people tossing around ideas. There is a section of the west wall of the building that is completely devoid of windows.
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lionmilk
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Back to the mold issue  As a person who will move to 668 scheduled on August 15th I want to ask you this: Does the "official statement" from K&D clear out everything about the issue? Should I have "any question of my level of comfort" in the future?
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willyboy
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It certainly does not clear out anything, since it didnt even address that specific issue.
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MyTwoSense
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Back to the mold issue
As a person who will move to 668 scheduled on August 15th I want to ask you this:
Does the "official statement" from K&D clear out everything about the issue? Should I have "any question of my level of comfort" in the future?
Have you yourself contacted the leasing agent?
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McCleveland
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Snapped this with my phone walking home last night... I can't wait to see lights on IN the building, but it is great to see lights on ON the building... 
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freud
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Nice! Looks good with the lights!
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lionmilk
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Back to the mold issue
As a person who will move to 668 scheduled on August 15th I want to ask you this:
Does the "official statement" from K&D clear out everything about the issue? Should I have "any question of my level of comfort" in the future?
Have you yourself contacted the leasing agent?
Yes I have contacted them and they said this: "...our statement is reflected on the UrbanOhio.com website. This is our official statement, which we stand by 100%. If there is any question of your level of comfort, you may want to consider staying at (my apartment right now, which is K&D also)" 
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willyboy
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Back to the mold issue
As a person who will move to 668 scheduled on August 15th I want to ask you this:
Does the "official statement" from K&D clear out everything about the issue? Should I have "any question of my level of comfort" in the future?
Have you yourself contacted the leasing agent?
Yes I have contacted them and they said this: "...our statement is reflected on the UrbanOhio.com website. This is our official statement, which we stand by 100%. If there is any question of your level of comfort, you may want to consider staying at (my apartment right now, which is K&D also)"
That's unfortunate that's as far as they were willing to go (I understand why they are limiting it to that, but it doesnt exactly put my mind totally at ease). I would try to talk to a construction worker currently working on the project to either get it debunked or confirmed that this could be an issue. (like was water ever really coming through the roof?) Can anybody confirm if that statement is sufficient? (doesn't seem so) Note they didn't add anything after the one vague statement.
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Well this is just me, but when I read the following statement "It is unfortunate and disappointing that the unsubstantiated ramblings of a disgruntled construction worker would garner such credibility."
I take it to mean they are saying the rumor was a load of crap... but again, that's just how I interpret it.
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doctabroccoli
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If mold and water damage were/are in issue, you should be able to smell the mustiness and feel moisture in the air.
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willyboy
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Well this is just me, but when I read the following statement "It is unfortunate and disappointing that the unsubstantiated ramblings of a disgruntled construction worker would garner such credibility."
I take it to mean they are saying the rumor was a load of crap... but again, that's just how I interpret it.
But isn't that what somebody would say that is trying to deny a problem that could be very damaging? (I mean its only unsubstantiated because nobody has substantiated it, which doesn't automatically make it not true)
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MyTwoSense
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Well this is just me, but when I read the following statement "It is unfortunate and disappointing that the unsubstantiated ramblings of a disgruntled construction worker would garner such credibility."
I take it to mean they are saying the rumor was a load of crap... but again, that's just how I interpret it.
Agreed. That's how I took it. If lionmilk wants further assurances, I would go to K&D corporate and call carl monday. If mold and water damage were/are in issue, you should be able to smell the mustiness and feel moisture in the air.
Not always true and not everyones "senses" are the same. My brother had mold on the entire side of his house. Two levels, seven people live in the house and nobody could smell it.
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lionmilk
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If lionmilk wants further assurances, I would go to K&D corporate and call carl monday. Who is Carl?  Don't get me wrong, I am just trying to know him. And could you do it not just for me but for all the residences who will pay around ~$1000 for an apartment.
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doctabroccoli
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Well this is just me, but when I read the following statement "It is unfortunate and disappointing that the unsubstantiated ramblings of a disgruntled construction worker would garner such credibility."
I take it to mean they are saying the rumor was a load of crap... but again, that's just how I interpret it.
Agreed. That's how I took it. If lionmilk wants further assurances, I would go to K&D corporate and call carl monday.
If mold and water damage were/are in issue, you should be able to smell the mustiness and feel moisture in the air.
Not always true and not everyones "senses" are the same. My brother had mold on the entire side of his house. Two levels, seven people live in the house and nobody could smell it.
More what I meant is that if there is as much water as that Pee Dee poster said there was, you'd definitely notice something.
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MyTwoSense
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Well this is just me, but when I read the following statement "It is unfortunate and disappointing that the unsubstantiated ramblings of a disgruntled construction worker would garner such credibility."
I take it to mean they are saying the rumor was a load of crap... but again, that's just how I interpret it.
Agreed. That's how I took it. If lionmilk wants further assurances, I would go to K&D corporate and call carl monday.
If mold and water damage were/are in issue, you should be able to smell the mustiness and feel moisture in the air.
Not always true and not everyones "senses" are the same. My brother had mold on the entire side of his house. Two levels, seven people live in the house and nobody could smell it.
More what I meant is that if there is as much water as that Pee Dee poster said there was, you'd definitely notice something.
ohhhh...yes...now I get you!
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Htsguy
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Well I know everybody is going to chuckle given the problems in the City of Cleveland Building Department, but don't they need to do a final inspection in order to issue an occupancy permit. Would not mold and water damage as extensive as described in the post come to light during such an inspection?
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MayDay
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I find it odd that the person who first started this conversation hasn't followed up.
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doctabroccoli
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I find it odd that the person who first started this conversation hasn't followed up.
It says he's online right now. Get out your whip, grand master!
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MyTwoSense
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I find it odd that the person who first started this conversation hasn't followed up.
OK!! Exactly and has LionMilk all in tizzie!
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willyboy
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Well I know everybody is going to chuckle given the problems in the City of Cleveland Building Department, but don't they need to do a final inspection in order to issue an occupancy permit. Would not mold and water damage as extensive as described in the post come to light during such an inspection?
That's what I was worried about. K&D/city inspectores
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MyTwoSense
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I find it odd that the person who first started this conversation hasn't followed up.
It says he's online right now. Get out your whip, grand master!
Grand Master Flash is on UO? UO is really popular!
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Peterlemonjello
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In terms of K&D's statement being sufficient, if you can prove that the post actually came from K&D or one of its agents (and it sounds like K&D is admitting that it is in fact their statement) then I would think you have enough . . . . A question was posed. They chose to affirmatively respond to it, and even if they didn't directly address the issue, the fact that they gave assurances regarding the quality of the construction in the face of mold allegations, I would think, is enough. They could have elected to stay quiet and let things play out. Instead, they chose to respond to the allegations. As such, if they lied, they could end up in a pretty bad spot.
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I'm also a little surprised we are giving so much credit to a posting on cleveland.com. Think about that one for a second. Also, I know someone who was walked through the building last week when meeting with some people regarding the building... He never mentioned anything to me about significant water damage being everywhere... the way that comment sounded it would be pretty impossible to not notice. I think that whole post was BS.
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Peterlemonjello
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It very well may have been an unfounded rumor . . . but then again, if it was bogus, you would think instead of coming on this forum and posting a bunch of meaningless PR drivel, K&D would've either just ignored it or said something to the effect of, "The allegations of water damage and mold are not true."
If this rumor is in fact a lie, K&D has only itself to blame for causing it to spread.
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MayDay
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Wellll, they also have people who give credibility to potentially libelous posts from an unmoderated site like cleveland.com to blame. Granted, I believe you were posting out of legitimate concern, but this site isn't the most ideal arena to settle legal issues.
Just an fyi, the Admins can see where all posts are coming from (IP addresses, etc.).
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willyboy
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Well also I'm sure potential tenants wouldn't have taken it seriously at all had K&D not already had some questionable business practices (cutting corners, and bribing city inspectors etc.)
Thus why I kind of found it humorous that they would make this comment:
"It is unfortunate and disappointing that the unsubstantiated ramblings of a disgruntled construction worker would garner such credibility."
To me, they somewhat gave reason to question their credibility when one of their own was indicted for bribery of a city inspector.
Alright, I'll lay off K&D now....
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Peterlemonjello
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I'm really not concerned about people being able to see where posts are coming from. For the record, I'm not exactly sure why it's so taboo for the future residents of this building to be discussing their legitimate concerns about the project on this forum. No one has given credence to anything posted on Cleveland.com. We've simply raised the issue as an area of concern and discussed how we might try to approach it with the building manager. It's not a legal issue. It's a community issue and we're trying to resolve it as a community of future residents.
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doctabroccoli
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I'm really not concerned about people being able to see where posts are coming from. For the record, I'm not exactly sure why it's so taboo for the future residents of this building to be discussing their legitimate concerns about the project on this forum. No one has given credence to anything posted on Cleveland.com. We've simply raised the issue as an area of concern and discussed how we might try to approach it with the building manager. It's not a legal issue. It's a community issue and we're trying to resolve it as a community of future residents.
We just prefer facts over rumors around here, that's all
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How can you say it's taboo when we've been discussing it for over a page, including several mods? If it was taboo, it'd be gone.
That said, the rumor sounds ridiculous. How does an apartment fill up with 3" of water? Are they building aquarium apartments? Does anyone think that this cleveland.com poster should have to present a shred of evidence to back up this allegation?
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