Author Topic: New York: World Trade Center site news (Read 32698 times)

mrnyc · « **Reply #105 on:** February 08, 2012, 04:39:03 AM »

now even worse than expected!

OOPS!!! – WTC NOW $4 BILLION OVERBUDGET

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Posted on 7th February 2012 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

$4 billion, over budget, Port Authority, WTC

Remember how outrageous the $700 million overrun on the new WTC seemed last week. Well that estimate was just a smidgen off. The new WTC is $4 billion overbudget. Can this country do anything well? Can we ever do anything on budget? Can we do anything on-time? Ask Boeing. Ask the Port Authority of NJ. This entire project is a national disgrace. The only thing this country is good at is threatening other countries and killing people.

Port Authority audit reveals nearly $4B cost overrun for World Trade Center

Published: Tuesday, February 07, 2012, 6:24 PM

NEW YORK — The agency building the new World Trade Center has let costs get out of control, with the estimated price tag soaring nearly $4 billion over the last four years, auditors said today.

Navigant Consulting said the project is now expected to cost $14.8 billion, 35 percent more than the last estimate, of $11 billion, in 2008.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie ordered the review of the World Trade Center site’s owner, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, after the agency’s board voted to raise bridge and tunnel tolls in August.

The auditors said the Port Authority, which runs area transit hubs including Kennedy and LaGuardia airports, is “a challenged and dysfunctional organization suffering from a lack of consistent leadership, a siloed underlying bureaucracy, poorly coordinated capital planning processes, insufficient cost controls and a lack of transparent and effective oversight of the World Trade Center program that has obscured full awareness of billions of dollars in exposure to the Port Authority.”

The Port Authority has lost millions of dollars in revenue because of lower traffic at the ports, airports and river crossings it operates, and the World Trade Center has suffered a number of setbacks since rebuilding began after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks destroyed its Twin Towers.

The company that is laying steel for the main tower has run into financial problems. A mistake in the design means the Port Authority will have to spend millions of dollars on temporary loading docks for the building. And the builders of the Sept. 11 museum are fighting with the agency over construction costs.

The Port Authority’s new director, Patrick Foye, said today the agency was taking the auditing firm’s recommendations seriously and would begin an overhaul of its structure.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=29069

mrnyc · « **Reply #106 on:** March 03, 2012, 04:40:15 AM »

TBideon · « **Reply #107 on:** March 03, 2012, 05:20:06 AM »

^^hey kids, want to spend the day at the September 11th museum. What an asinine idea.

mrnyc · « **Reply #108 on:** March 08, 2012, 07:00:19 AM »

^ i couldn't agree more. plus seems like it would bore the kids senseless. but people continue to mob the place.

i took this iphone pic from in front of chelsea piers yesterday afternoon around sunset:

jmblec2 · « **Reply #109 on:** March 10, 2012, 08:04:36 AM »

^ now thats a building.

jmecklenborg · « **Reply #110 on:** March 26, 2012, 02:39:48 PM »

Savor this thinking by the late Jean Baudrillard:

Some examples Baudrillard brings up of the simulacrum of the model are: 1) the development of nuclear weapons as deterrents—useful only in the hyperreal sense, a reference with no real referent, since they are always meant to be reproducible but are never intended to be used—2) the (former) Twin Towers of the World Trade Center, which replaced a New York of constantly competing, distinct heights with a singular model of the ultimate New York building: already doubled, already reproduced, itself a reproduction, a singular model for all conceivable development, and 3) a menage-a-trois with identical twins where the fantasy comprises having perfection reproduced in front of your eyes, though the reality behind this reproduction is nil and impossible to comprehend otherwise, since the twins are still just people. The very act of perceiving these, Baudrillard insists, is in the tactile sense, since we already assume the reproducibility of everything, since it is not the reality of these simulations that we imagine (in fact, we no longer "imagine" in the same sense as before; both the imagined and the real are equally hyperreal, equally both reproducible and already reproductions themselves), but the reproducibility thereof. We do not imagine them reproduced for us, since the original image is itself a reproduction—rather, we perceive the model, the simulation.

TBideon · « **Reply #111 on:** March 27, 2012, 12:31:46 AM »

I have no idea what I just read

JYP · « **Reply #112 on:** March 27, 2012, 01:37:42 AM »

Baudrillard seems to be commenting on the sense of reproduction through equals, i.e. nuclear powers cancelling each other out, twin towers that represent the implied beginning of a "perfect" skyline and twins which can be perceived as unreal cloning of sorts.

The old World Trade Center represented the pinnacle of the super block and of modernism architecture itself. Itself represented as a "self-replication," or twins waiting for phase 3 and phase 4 etc. If the Le Corbusier model had been followed to it's logical conclusion, cities would be nothing but monolithic blocks of separated uses.

mrnyc · « **Reply #113 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:25:46 AM »

a construction related milestone today - the major wiring is done and they turned the power on. the temporary construction rigging power wiring will be taken down. now they can start to test elevators, etc.

mrnyc · « **Reply #114 on:** April 02, 2012, 10:41:26 PM »

another milestone yesterday.

1wtc reached 100 stories.

its now just a hair shorter than the esb.

mrnyc · « **Reply #115 on:** April 24, 2012, 01:33:08 AM »

i heard from several sources that 1wtc is supposed to top out sometime in june.

musky · « **Reply #116 on:** April 26, 2012, 01:09:51 PM »

Just read that it will be the tallest in NYC by this time next week,

musky · « **Reply #117 on:** April 30, 2012, 06:25:03 AM »

Breaking News ‏ @BreakingNews One World Trade Center becomes the tallest building in NYC, now over 1,250 feet tall

https://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews

mrnyc · « **Reply #118 on:** April 30, 2012, 06:36:19 AM »

yep suppposedly todays the day 1wtc has become the tallest bldg in town:

http://m.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/scrappy_scraper_an_empire_buster_Zt6wge8P65Gx0IaOMdb3hP

musky · « **Reply #119 on:** April 30, 2012, 06:41:31 AM »

Live video: Press event about World Trade Center surpassing Empire State as tallest NYC skyscraper http://on.msnbc.com/Ij9wnE

mrnyc · « **Reply #120 on:** April 30, 2012, 08:22:03 AM »

fresh views -
i just walked by after work.

presenting the new big guy:

news crews around

Columbo · « **Reply #121 on:** May 01, 2012, 03:19:25 AM »

Great news about the 1wtc tower musky and great photo update mrnyc.

Question about those last two photos in your update mrnyc. Is that the 4wtc tower?

mrnyc · « **Reply #122 on:** May 02, 2012, 10:15:55 AM »

yes it is - progress is really moving along on that one too

mrnyc · « **Reply #123 on:** May 25, 2012, 01:04:12 AM »

finally -- a first look at the base of 1wtc:

1 World Trade Center offers warm welcome
By STEVE CUOZZO

Last Updated: 4:35 AM, May 25, 2012

Posted: 11:52 PM, May 24, 2012

This is the first rendering of how the base of 1 World Trade Center will look up close — a shimmering, richly textured facade on four sides of glass, stainless steel and aluminum.

While bickering goes on over the iconic office tower’s crown, its street-level face is just as vital — not only to Condé Nast employees who will move in by 2015, but to the millions of visitors to the 16-acre WTC site.

The “podium” design by Skidmore Owings & Merrill is the end product of a tortured history that included the dumping of an earlier scheme over costs and fears its custom-fabricated glass would too easily shatter.

more:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/world_trade_center_offers_warm_welcome_98qnSJ2LCfZ3KTpBFJpTSJ

mrnyc · « **Reply #124 on:** June 08, 2012, 01:38:31 PM »

i took a walk around the wtc site
yesterday after work:

from bpc

from vesey st & the hudson river park

eastvillagedon · « **Reply #125 on:** June 15, 2012, 04:24:33 AM »

Columbo · « **Reply #126 on:** June 16, 2012, 06:02:28 AM »

Thanks for the update and the slice of NYC night life. Great photos.

mrnyc · « **Reply #127 on:** June 17, 2012, 06:26:24 AM »

yeah nightshots = niccce!

mrnyc · « **Reply #128 on:** June 20, 2012, 12:55:54 AM »

what the wtc would look like if gehry designed it!

eastvillagedon · « **Reply #129 on:** June 23, 2012, 04:28:03 AM »

jmecklenborg · « **Reply #130 on:** June 24, 2012, 04:05:18 AM »

I miss how the WTC towers were so useful for wayfinding. The way they were staggered gave you a better sense of distance and direction than this single tower.

mrnyc · « **Reply #131 on:** June 24, 2012, 10:40:43 PM »

i know, they were really a beacon for pointing yourself downtown that the new wtc is not.

big, big wtc site news today -- wtc4 topping out ceremony is this morning!!

jmecklenborg · « **Reply #132 on:** June 25, 2012, 03:21:05 AM »

Also, despite being the work of a Japanese architect, the WTC towers felt solidly "American". Meanwhile, this new tower was designed by an American firm but looks Asian.

eastvillagedon · « **Reply #133 on:** June 26, 2012, 04:57:18 AM »

Irish Hunger Memorial

Fulton St

St Paul’s Chapel

Zuccotti Park

Trinity Church

mrnyc · « **Reply #134 on:** July 05, 2012, 02:35:02 AM »

ive got a few more recent angles
that ive been slacking on
putting up here

this view is from
njtransit near secaucus

this is from williamsburg, brooklyn
n6th st at the east river

this is at east broadway
and i think rutgers st
which is chinatown

eastvillagedon · « **Reply #135 on:** July 05, 2012, 04:40:46 AM »

^that view from East Broadway is interesting, but it's too bad it's partly concealed by the courthouse. I remember how spectacular the twin towers looked from that angle, which were a bit to the left. But since I'm complaining

, I might as well add that the view from Zuccotti Park is even more disappointing, with 4 WTC (a huge skyscraper itself) blocking 1 WTC. Again, there used to be a sweeping, dramatic view of the original towers from that location all the way from Broadway.

eastvillagedon · « **Reply #136 on:** July 06, 2012, 05:06:48 AM »

6th Ave & 19th St

eastvillagedon · « **Reply #137 on:** July 10, 2012, 04:49:40 AM »

Mercer & Houston Sts

Greene St

W Broadway & Broome

Church & Lispenard Sts

mrnyc · « **Reply #138 on:** July 14, 2012, 12:04:44 AM »

hate to bust your bubble evd but all city views of this building will be blocked, except perhaps for straight down the westside hwy and hudson river park piers. even more so if and when the wtc site is fully built out. its nothing new, you could tell all along, even going back to the original finialized site plans. i had even pointed that out to you earlier back in this thread. but yeah, the new wtc site is definately no twin towers replacement. but then again the twins were no singer or tribune towers either.

jmecklenborg · « **Reply #139 on:** July 17, 2012, 03:32:10 AM »

I haven't been up there in a year, so I haven't seen the tower since it was about 30 stories high, but from these vantage points it looks like the complex will come across merely as "more buildings" and not something that had its own mood like the WTC towers.

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